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Not giving my daughter 3rd vaccinations?

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Tillytrotter123 · 07/08/2018 10:20

I'm just looking to see whether anyone has been in a similar situation really. My daughter is due her 3rd vaccinations tomorrow, she is 5 months old. The last 2 times they have made her really ill and she even ended up going into hospital they made her chest that sore and ruttly, she's had a cough ever since and I cant help thinking it's related. I obviously don't want to put her in danger of diseases but I'm thinking she will already be covered to a degree? I know a lot of people think it's crazy even considering not vaccinating but I can't bear her being so poorly again. Has anyone else been in the same position? Thank you

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

MrsSnootyPants2018 · 07/08/2018 10:21

Shell be in more danger without the vaccine. Tell the doctor this beforehand and let the professional make the medical judgment.

Polly99 · 07/08/2018 10:25

I think you should speak to your GP.

I delayed some of my DDs jabs for a little while as she had quite a weak chest and we decided that as there was no harm in her having them late we would wait until she wasn’t fighting her umpteenth cold to do them.

As a child I wasn’t vaccinated until I was 7 or 8, because I had bad asthma and a lot of allergies and the GP thought it best to wait.

So, speak to your GP but I’d think ( particularly if your baby is not in childcare) that there is little risk in putting it off. I’d expect you can always decide to vaccinate her fully at a future date.

lljkk · 07/08/2018 10:31

They are supposed to have a reaction, that's how you know the vaccine worked. If those things were a reaction, then she shouldn't have any thing left to react to, though.

Rattly cough & sore chest is odd, the vaccinations don't give them live cold-type viruses. Sounds like coincidence. Agree with Snooty talk thru your concerns with the nurse.

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Tillytrotter123 · 07/08/2018 10:35

Thanks for your replies. Polly, my daughter is exactly the same, she has a constant cold and I don't want to make her worse. I will speak to the gp and see how long I can delay them. She isn't it any childcare at the moment and won't be until January. It's a tough one isn't it, I obviously don't want to put her in danger.

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Tillytrotter123 · 07/08/2018 10:40

lljkk - yes it could be a coincidence couldn't it. I feel like one of those crazy people even considering it! She's obviously a bit bigger now and like you said she may have more of a resistance to them this time.

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Rosarollo · 07/08/2018 10:47

The 3rd vaccines... Is that the one normally at 16 weeks??? If so i think that includes the 2nd lot of meningitis jabs. They are spaced a couple of months apart and she might not receive full immunisation from men b. She might have to start them again.

lljkk · 07/08/2018 10:48

There's another thread going someone whose baby has to start jab schedule again.

Does immunity only seem to take if the MenB jabs are given close together? (my kids were too old get them as babies)

BounceAndJump · 07/08/2018 10:54

My DD2 got meningitis before her third lot of vaccines. The vaccines your DD had already may well be useless without the booster third lot.

ginandnappies · 07/08/2018 10:59

If you can't stand to see your LO poorly imagine how bad you'll feel if she contracts something that could be 100x worse than the effects of the vaccines. You just need to look at some of the side effects to realise how bad the actual disease must be. Please vaccinate. By not you're endangering your child, and other people who are vulnerable.

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Tillytrotter123 · 07/08/2018 11:04

BounceAndJump - she's 20 weeks. I know, I thought it was a bit late but it's when I was told to get them. Yes, I wouldn't want to miss the menB jab. I'll ring them and ask. I don't want to start again whatever happens.

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BounceAndJump · 07/08/2018 12:05

The men b isn't the only one that protects against meningitis btw, the men c, hib and pneumococcal vaccines protect against other types of meningitis.

Sidge · 07/08/2018 12:10

Without the third ones she won’t be fully vaccinated for her age against Men B and pertussis (whooping cough) so is more at risk. (As well as all the other things).

A rattly chest isn’t a usual side effect of the imms so may well be coincidental.

Imms rarely need repeating, just caught up, lljkk so I don’t know why a baby would need to restart a course? I haven’t seen the thread you refer to.

ForgivenessIsDivine · 07/08/2018 12:19

Vaccines should not be given if your child is unwell and are contra indicated if the child has had a previous reaction to a vaccine containing the same ingredients.

Get hold of the vaccine inserts (not the patient information leaflets) and speak to your GP and to a pediatrician if necessary about the reactions that your child has had and the documented risks of the vaccines that she is due to have.

It is impossible to predict any future reactions (the "cough ever since' is not a normal reaction). You may be able to get a titre test to see if she is already immune based on the two doses so far. No one can predict if your child will react to future vaccines or if she will contract a vaccine preventable disease. The risks for her are not the same as the risks of the general population. You gave to take her reactions into account when making this decision.

BounceAndJump · 07/08/2018 12:30

FWIW if her reaction was bad enough that they medically shouldn't be given then they will have informed your gp.
My daughter wasn't allowed the pneumococcal vaccine straight after recovering from pneumococcal meningitis (assumed maybe because it wouldn't have been effective due to the antibiotics she was on to fight it though that's purely a guess as I didn't ask why).

She needs it again at 2 years old to make up for this missed second dose, so unless other ones work differently I don't think there's a time limit on it.

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Tillytrotter123 · 07/08/2018 21:35

Thank you to everyone for taking the time to reply. BounceAndJump - I'm sorry to hear your little girl was so poorly, I really hope she's ok now. I will try and see if I can delay the vaccinations longer as she does still a bad chest, I'll find out how long the second dose covers her for.

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freemenowforgodsake · 09/08/2018 07:09

I would definatly not give a child any vaccinations given by the government.
Does the medicine describe exactly whats in it like any other medicine you give your child by law? look into the evidence yourself and dont trust anyone who has been taught by pharma what to say to you!
And while your at it investigatr the flouride in your tap water? is that good for your baby too? make up your own mind and find out for yourself its your baby noone elses!!

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 09/08/2018 07:16

I delayed a few of my child’s vaccines for this reason. Her immune system was already struggling and no one can tell mr that vaccines don’t affect the immune system. Of course they do - they are meant to.

I delayed by a good few months until I felt she was generally a bit stronger.

BlaaBlaaBlaa · 09/08/2018 07:16

OP speak to your GP but definitely vaccinate your child. It's the right thing to do.

@freemenow vaccinations are safe. Your post is irresponsible

Devilishpyjamas · 09/08/2018 07:21

Well I wouldn’t rush to give the third - and if you do decide to go ahead wait until she’s well. Just check how long you can leave the gap between the second and third dose before you would have to restart the course. That should be easy to track down the info online before you discuss with the doc (take along a print out - so he/she can see the source) . They used to spread out DTP much more than they do now so some sort of delay should be fine. If you know how long you can delay without problem then you have time to think about it and time for your dd to get better. I wouldn’t vaccinate a currently poorly child.

I initially delayed ds2’s vaccinations a) because he was unwell and b) to do more research

Disclaimer & conflicts - 2nd and 3rd child unvaccinated due to life changing reaction in first. Well read. Science PhD. Not anti vaccination, but think there should be an individual (rather than population) approach to vaccination. Also not keen on vaccinations only being available bundled together so you’re forced to have all or none.

Etymology23 · 09/08/2018 07:22

Vaccines are safe and I am massively pro vaccine. But it is possible to have an allergic reaction to them (though a bad chest wouldn’t be an expected reaction in my eyes) so it’s definitely worth talking to the doctor to come up with a plan. I agree you want her to be protected, so it’s about working out how to time that best for her, so the vaccines are most effective and so she is as well as can be hoped.

Squidgling · 09/08/2018 07:28

Some of dd2's jabs were delayed slightly (the second ones) because she'd been unwell the previous week and not eating so lost some weight. Although she was better at the time of her appointment the doctor wanted to wait longer for her weight to pick back up again. I was told that the is a minimum time that must be left between each set of vaccinations but not a maximum one so you are fine to delay them if necessary. Hope she feels better soon.

Rainbowqueeen · 09/08/2018 07:32

I can’t really see from your OP that an actual medical professional said that her illness after the last lot of jabs was actually caused by the jabs. Did this actually happen or are you just making the link?

Either way jf you are concerned get advice from a professional and go with whatever they suggest

GinIsIn · 09/08/2018 07:36

My son was hospitalised from his reactions to the first jabs at 8 weeks. He still had all the others. I read up a lot, I spoke to a lot of doctors, and came to the conclusion that a hospital visit for persistent temp and dehydration was still worth it compared to meningitis. He’s never reacted as badly as he did to the first ones. The vaccinations are really, really important. If in doubt, talk to the doctor not to mumsnet.

freemenowforgodsake · 09/08/2018 07:40

The Internet as you (now because you are using it) has many doctors and medical proffesionals that can tell you weather your baby is safe to have vaccinations. Do the research yourself sont listen to anyone. The information you seek can only be found by looking yourself! And its irrisponsible to tell you they are good for your baby when they clearly havnt done the research!

littlebillie · 09/08/2018 07:42

We we're allowed to have a vaccine if the DCs were I'll. I wouldn't abandon them just postpone

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