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5 year old to have 11 teeth out

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andyscousin · 31/03/2015 11:44

Just heard my cousins 5 year old has to have 11 teeth out so that his 2nd teeth can come through healthy.
Anyone experienced this in a young child? How will he eat etc and when will his other teeth come through?
Just been told by cousins Mum so don't have all details yet, his mum is too upset. He will have a general in a good childrens hospital

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Gileswithachainsaw · 31/03/2015 11:51

So your first thought was to start a thread.

at least pretend to care by asking if there's any way you can support his mum. or the child or if there's a way to get information across without appearing too judgemental.

you sound like you just want to talk about how awful a parent your cousin must be.

You don't even.know.details yet

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andyscousin · 31/03/2015 11:55

Sorry if it came across in the wrong way, we love this little boy, since he was 10 weeks old he has stayed with us every weekend. And his Mum stayed with us when she was a little girl. We are all very close and I only wanted to ask if he will be okay and if it will be a very bad experience for him.

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Lottapianos · 31/03/2015 11:57

Giles, that is spectacularly unfair. I don't see any judgement in OP's post at all. And even if there were, a 5 year old having 11 teeth removed is a pretty shocking state of affairs.

OP, I work with young children and this is not uncommon sadly. I'm afraid I can't give you any practical advice but I'm sure his parents will be given clear instructions about managing his diet and helping him to recover. I'm glad he's going to a good hospital

nikkinack · 31/03/2015 11:57

I don't get that from the OP Giles, it doesn't say the child has to have teeth out because of poor parenting. It sounds like it could be a result of something going wrong with the normal process of milk teeth falling out.

NeverHadHaveHas · 31/03/2015 11:58

Giles totally rude and unnecessary. There is no suggestion in OP's post that she is seeking to apportion blame.

No experience OP but and hope he gets on ok.

Gileswithachainsaw · 31/03/2015 11:59

It really did cone across like that.

I've no experience of this, but I can't imagine it's going g to be anything other than painful and traumatic. The mums going to feel like shit if it's down to his diet and the children is having an anaesthetic and 11 teeth out so you dont need to be Einstein to work out that this is going to hurt like hell. and probably even give him a long term phobia of dentists.

you might want to rephrase a post asking for details of what you can do to help when he comes to stay and how can you help his mum

NeverHadHaveHas · 31/03/2015 12:01

Giles from all the other responses it only came across like that to you

nikkinack · 31/03/2015 12:02

It really doesn't Giles. You might have jumped to that conclusion based on the title, but if you read the OP it only shows concern for the boy, and wondering how he will cope.

NeverHadHaveHas · 31/03/2015 12:03

You are also being a bit of a knob saying it's likely to give him a phobia if dentists when you know nothing of the sort. If you can't say anything helpful or encouraging why not just shut up?

Gileswithachainsaw · 31/03/2015 12:04

Nothing to suggest it wasn't. Apologies if that wasn't the intention but there are threads started all the time where people just want to appear smug.

NeverHadHaveHas · 31/03/2015 12:06

So you thought you would jump straight in and give this OP a kicking on the off chance she might be smug

Gileswithachainsaw · 31/03/2015 12:07

Well there didn't appear to be any concern really. curiosity maybe but I certainly didn't get concern.

Hulababy · 31/03/2015 12:11

Some children do have to have teeth removed for reasons other than diet. My own dd lost one tooth which was not down to diet but due to growing with very little if any enamel to protect it.she will probably lose more teeth as part of her brace treatment over the next couple of years too - nothing to do with diet.
My godson lost two front teeth when a toddler due to a fall. Again it was done well and he remains u afraid of the dentist and he was able to eat normally until his second teeth came back.

If he has a decent dentist etc then this will not have to give him a fear of dentists and dental treatment at all. It may well be done at a dental hospital and perhaps even by those who specialise in children. The dentist will talk to him and explain things to him at all stages, even despite his young age. He will be guided through it and will receive medication to reduce any pain he may encounter.

I am sure the dental team will be able to help and guide the mum as to what he will be able to eat and how, and how long it will be til his teeth come through.

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andyscousin · 31/03/2015 12:29

My sisters and I are in our 50s and 60s and don't have children but we have always been close to the children in our family and I joined Mumsnet today because I thought it would be helpful to talk to parents who have been through this with their child and it was like a slap in the face when I saw Giles reply. I honestly didn't think there would be anyone like Giles on this forum. Thank you to the other members who replied. I was going to delete this thread in case his mum saw it and got upset but I will leave it for a while because I'm sure I will get some replies from members who will be able to offer advice and tell me of their experience.
He will be treated in Alder Hey childrens hospital.

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Lottapianos · 31/03/2015 12:34

OP, there are quite a few of us on here who don't have children so please stay if you enjoy it Probably only about 50% of the boards are anything to do with children or parenting, the rest is just fun discussion with other adults about a whole range of topics

Gileswithachainsaw · 31/03/2015 12:35

Apologies.

It's hard to know sometimes what the intention is of some posters. There are often threads where people post things like this and it's not always to be helpful or supportive.

I apologise, if that wasn't the intention. I hope your cousins ds is ok. having teeth out at a young age is horrid I remember having a couple out when I was a kid. It was painful and I was so self conscious after as one was a front one.

lovesmycake · 31/03/2015 12:46

Hello - I had 11 teeth out when I was a child I wondered about namechanging because of the insinuations up thread about bad parenting but it had nothing to do with my diet they were all healthy teeth just too many to fit in my jaw (they had started to come through in a double layer to fit in) and now I still have a mouth full of healthy teeth often commented on by my dentist!

I had 7 baby teeth taken out and 4 adult teeth on two separate occasions. I was a bit older I think, my memory of it is a bit hazy basically lots of sticking my tongue in the gaps left behind, my dad having to carry me across the road because I was woozy from the anesthetic, getting a happy meal, some time off from school and LOADS of money from the tooth fairy! Weirdly its kind of a warm fuzzy memory!

So to clarify - I do not have a phobia of dentists, I was not in agony, It had nothing to do with my parents so they had no reason to feel guilty, without treatment I would have needed braces as it is all my teeth are perfectly aligned. Hope that helps OP.

Frecklefeatures · 31/03/2015 12:59

Daughter just had 2 baby teeth out which were stopping adult teeth getting through. This can cause damage to adult teeth, so it's better to get it done if needed, even if it does seem a lot. Relatively painless as baby teeth don't have roots like adult teeth. A bit sore afterwards - lots of rinsing with salty water, calpol/calprofen when necessary, soft foods for a few days. If it's being done under GA it will be less traumatic getting them all done at once, so I wouldn't worry about him being scared of dentists, he'll be out for the count. Hope it all goes well.

openthecurtains · 31/03/2015 13:18

I had several teeth out as a child. None of them due to hygiene or cavities - I simply grew 2 and a half sets of teeth! No idea why, just one of those freaky things. The surplus teeth were removed by a normal dentist who specialised in children's dentistry. It wasn't a dental hospital and I didn't have a GA. Just a series of visits to a lovely, child-friendly dental surgery over a few months where I had one or two of the extra teeth removed each time. No bad memories of it whatsoever. I have the normal amount of teeth now. I think I was about 8 when the extras were removed.

californiaburrito · 31/03/2015 13:18

My DS had 4 teeth out when he was 2 under GA. You know, bad parenting and all that. They were removed at a large London hospital and being so young he was under the special care dental team. On the day of the procedure there was a lot of waiting around, but once things started happening it was all over very quickly. The pediatric anesthetist was very reassuring, going through the whole procedure with me and was very keen to hear any questions I had. He also went through all the possible things that might happen to my DS once the anesthetic was administered so that it wouldn't come as surprise (floopiness, eyes rolling back, moving his arms or kicking). When we went to theatre I held my son and put the mask on his face. He went to sleep very easily and then the nurses helped me move him on to the bed.

The procedure took about ten minutes but my DS stayed asleep for about an hour afterwards (it was nap time anyway). He was brought back to me when he woke up. And then he cried, and cried and cried and cried. They assured me that this was pretty normal as small children are very disorientated by the affects of the anesthetic. They suggested that we might go home as it was upsetting to the other patients waiting.

He had his procedure at about 1 and by 4.30 we were home and he was back to normal. There has been no issues or changes in his diet as a result of having his teeth removed.

One thing that really helped me was that my MIL sent a package of little toys that DS could open when I was overwhelmed and he was bored. Maybe this is the sort of thing that a very best cousin might due for another?

Also, I had 12 baby teeth removed over the years, although, not so young and I haven't got any problems either.

Hulababy · 31/03/2015 16:03

Giles - dental treatment has changed a lot over recent years, especially in terms of children. There is no reason why an extraction should cause a child pain these days.

dinoswore · 31/03/2015 16:15

My 6yo had 7 teeth removed in a single procedure recently (3 because of decay - so please, flame me, I can take it) and she recovered very quickly. It was done at lunchtime and by teatime she was asking for cornflakes! The wounds heal over far more quickly than with adult teeth because they are much smaller and not rooted in.

She did not experience any pain. The after effects of the GA were disorientating and she cried a bit but after a couple of hours she was completely back to normal.

She has been to the dentist since for a check up and went very happily, chatted to the dentist, cooperated with everything - so no phobia.

Your cousin's little boy is going to be fine.

dinoswore · 31/03/2015 16:18

Oh, and as a PP said, I got her some little gifts to help her get through the day. New PJs, a magazine, a little toy, a DVD. It really helped.

DontDrinkandFacebook · 31/03/2015 16:23

california can I ask what reasons you were given for your son needing this? I am wondering what on earth a two year old's tiny little teeth must be doing or looking like, that a dentist can tell they will stop the adult teeth coming through properly! Surely they will just fall out when the time comes? How can they know in a child so young that this will not be straightforward?

Pasithea · 31/03/2015 16:33

I had eight out when I was about 8. Very little memory of it apart from being a bit sick. My mum did mushy food for a while but when she caught me eating something crunchy she stopped lol.

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