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Are there any Homeopaths about please?

162 replies

BigFatCushion · 26/07/2012 16:21

I'm considering using homoeopathy for DD's Molluscum Contagiosum. I am very skeptical but at that point where I'm ready to try something new.

Anyway, I was googling some homoeopaths and I'm curious about something.

A couple of people have background info and state that they trained as 'a nurse/midwife/pharmacist' which to me is reassuring.

None of the relevant registers have their name on it though. Should they still be able to use the letters after their name if they aren't actually a member of the Nursing & Midwifery Council etc?

I may just be over cautious, but using a protected title should only be allowed if they're actually registered shouldn't it?

If you are a homoeopath please tell me to go for it, and that it will work!

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ravenAK · 26/07/2012 23:34

Accuracy, I think it's pretty well documented how it 'works'!

It's a con. Arguably sometimes a well meaning one (although I doubt the chairman of Boots is doing anything but laughing all the way to the bank) but dishonest all the same.

Also, what SGB said.

DowagersHump · 26/07/2012 23:35

No, I admit that wasn't polite :o But it's not bullying either.

Accuracyrequired · 26/07/2012 23:37

Funny huh. And bringing over stuff from other threads that you couldn't answer there but now have an opportunity to be rude to the person who posted that stuff?

DowagersHump · 26/07/2012 23:37

Anyway, none of this is very helpful for BigFatCushion and her DD's molluscum so I'll STFU now

CoteDAzur · 26/07/2012 23:49

Is anyone interested in answering my question about Molluscum?

DD (7) is due for scraping at the dermatologist tomorrow. Now I read it can cause scarring and permanent depigmentation. One of her spots was infected the other day. Does this mean we are near the end? Or do they all have to bleed & get infected for infection to clear?

Accuracyrequired · 26/07/2012 23:53

Sorry, I wish I knew. We used the comfrey cream. I have heard that once one bump goes, they're all on their way out. But that's just something I've heard. That's no help for your dd. It sounds awful - you must have had it for ages.

PenisVanLesbian · 26/07/2012 23:54

I think its very helpful for the OP, hopefully saved her time, money, and kept her from being fleeced for sugar water.

Cote, I think if anyone knew that, they would answer you. I wouldn't imagine there is a simple answer to that one.

BigFatCushion · 26/07/2012 23:57

How long has your DD had them for? Is she uncomfortable with them?

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Tee2072 · 27/07/2012 06:04

Interesting conversation. Some points:

Antecdote does not equal data.
Disagreement does not equal bullying.
You can laugh at someone's words and not be laughing at them.
If you feel you've been attacked personally, report it to HQ.

But no one here has been personally attacked, so you may want to not waste their time.

HTH'

sashh · 27/07/2012 08:20

Do you know what the placebo effect is? It is not reliant on the type of placebo given.

It does depend on the method of delivery though, mor effect from an injection than a tablet.

Raven, I have no idea what particular qualities homeopathy has which make it effective. Perhaps the fact that the homeopath spends a good deal of time talking to the patient, in the way a GP can't - perhaps the way the pills mimic the appearance of medicine, with talk of dosages and so on - perhaps the very fact that it all happens outside a clinical environment.

Er, so a placebo then?

seeker · 27/07/2012 08:34

Cote- if it's not tool late, I would hold off. They WILL go by themselves, and they don't leave any scars. Trying to remove them can cause scarring and can be very painful. And if they have started to change and look worse it does mean they are going. Honestly.

Gracelo · 27/07/2012 08:36

What is a "transferred" placebo effect?

bigkidsdidit · 27/07/2012 08:50

Careful you don't stop taking your medicine, you might overdose

Badaboom tish!

fluffiphlox · 27/07/2012 08:57

Bit late to the party here but if you are asking if there are any deluded crackpots out there, the answer is yes, hundreds of them.

BigFatCushion · 27/07/2012 12:58

Hello all. Offers calming smelling salts all round

Really appreciate the responses. I have finished watching/reading loads about homoeopathy, and as I said last night I never even knew the difference between herbalism and homoeopathy - I definitely do now!

In conclusion, I'm not going to do it. We don't have money to burn. I'm really hoping it is in fact on its way out as it's looking so angry at the moment. I will religiously keep up the comfrey cream as i already have it, and DD thinks it looks like chocolate being spread on her Grin.

I'm going to ask that this gets moved to Children's Health, as I think it'd be good to keep the information for others in the same position.

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Trills · 27/07/2012 13:03

Glad you've come to a decision BFC and I hope your DD is better soon - it sounds as if she will be

(so if you had wasted your money on some pills of nothing you'd possibly have thought that it "worked")

BulletProofMum · 27/07/2012 13:22

Hurray!

hairylemon · 27/07/2012 13:34

can I hijack slightly? Im a bit confuddled. Ive used something called Arnica when I had my CS and other various injuries (pills you stuck under your tongue and a gel from SBC) and also I used to use Rescue Remedy. Are those herbal or homeopathic remedies?

Trills · 27/07/2012 13:36

Rescue remedy is just some nice smells.

Arnica can come as herbal (there is actual arnica in it, usually you put this on your skin) or homeopathic (pills that have been soaked in water that has been diluted so much that there is no arnica left in it).

BulletProofMum · 27/07/2012 13:37

I beleive it to be available both as a herbal preperation and as a homeopathic preparation

hairylemon · 27/07/2012 13:42

Thanks, but - gah! I used to think rescue remedy actually worked, remember using it when I was doing my driving test and it seemed to work (and was a bit safer than taking a valium ha) but was prob just in my head. Must admit I didnt think the arnica pills did much but thought as the tube said something about making sure you didnt touch the pills (?!) then that must mean they are so potent they must be good Confused and [mug] . the gel I use definitely seems to work when I get back ache and mum uses it for her arthritis but its quite expensive.

Sorry for hijack, carry on.....

DowagersHump · 27/07/2012 13:53

Arnica cream is great on bruises Smile

mistlethrush · 27/07/2012 14:10

We call arnica cream 'vanishing' cream in our family as you can put it on a bruise and the following morning you can see which bits you might have missed as they're still black. The earlier you do it the better.

Tee2072 · 27/07/2012 15:06

Arnica cream had never made a bruise on my son go away. I think that's a total con.

mistlethrush · 27/07/2012 15:26

Tee - I got called from nursery to warn me that ds (then 4) had managed to hit his head just above his eye on a banister when playing outside - and that it looked awful, but they'd put a cold compress on it and it didn't need hospital treatment but they wanted to warn me because it looked terrible. It had swollen at least an inch in an egg shape just on his brow - and was puffy down his eyelid.

I got home with him and subjected him to more cold - then before bed put the arnica cream on. I had, however, to be careful how close to his eye I got with it for obvious reasons.

The following morning, all the swelling had gone down and the only bit that still looked bruised was the bit of eyelid that hadn't had any cream on - and you could see a clear line which appeared to follow the line of application.

I, and nursery, expected him to have a black eye and big bruise above it the following day. As you know, bruises don't respond to the placebo effect - so it couldn't have been that - the only thing I can attribute it to is using the cream early on - and the bit that didn't have cream remaining black seems to me to suggest that it really was the cream that helped a lot.

However, I can completely understand if it might not work in every situation - so I am not remotely suggesting that you are incorrect in saying that it didn't work for you. I would not bother with the 'pills' though.... at least the cream actually has a discernible amount of active ingredient.