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I am going to have to force DS to take the meds aren't i?

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PavlovtheCat · 09/05/2012 21:04

He is 2.5, has chicken pox, has it in his mouth, as well as lots of other areas. Currently not asleep partly due to epic 3 hour sleep today (after not sleeping last night) an partly because his mouth/gums/teeth are hurting him (ouchy itchy he calls it).

Anyway, I have piriton, which is absolutely foul. So, now not only is he refusing to take this he is refusing to take all medicine. I got him to take it last night by literally forcing it down him, upside down, with him screaming, howling and spitting like I was trying to poison him, gagging. and then sobbing for ages afterwards. He was distraught. It helped reduce his fever (calpol) and help with the itching, and today he has been ok. but now, clearly he needs it again. I was hoping to get away with it. DD is asleep and his noise will wake her and upset her too.

I am going to have to make him hate me again aren't i Sad. (now, I know that he won't really hate me, but thats how I feel as I am spending 15 mins forcing stuff down his throat). Anyone want to hold my hand?

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PoohBearsHole · 09/05/2012 21:07

Genuinely? Yes but he won't remember Smile.

Trinity and some others gave me great advice which involved sitting on ds, not quit but something like that, will try and find it for you.

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PavlovtheCat · 09/05/2012 21:09

I sit on him as it is! on his hands and legs at least. But I will go and check that thread for some tips, thank you!

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BikeRunSki · 09/05/2012 21:10

Can you mix it with anything? I can hide Syrup of Figs in milk with DS, even though it is brown and stinks! Works best served in a sippy cup where he can't see or smell it - doesn't seem to notice the taste.

PoohBearsHole · 09/05/2012 21:13

how about in a smoothie? Mine are loving smoothies at the moment so am stuffing all manner of things in them Smile

It does feel cruel though doesn't it Sad I do totally understand where you are coming from!

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PavlovtheCat · 09/05/2012 21:13

He wont drink enough milk for it to work. Or juice. He only has a sip at a time. And, I have no chocolate left to bribe him with -dh ate it the fucker-- and that did not help much anyway... ok, I am going off to get them as he is in a lot of discomfort with his mouth...

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KateShmate · 09/05/2012 21:14

Bribery always works best with my DD's - promise a chocolate button or something if he has it nicely.
I sometimes get some diet lemonade and stick any medicine in there as fizzy is a very exciting treat for DD's!
Also, does he get really 'engrossed' into anything (DVD, TV, Ds/iPad?) that you could let him have, and then quickly jump in and give him the meds?

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PavlovtheCat · 09/05/2012 21:14

He is not really eating much at the moment. Not surprising though, I can see one huge white ulcer right on the roof of his mouth, and more on his gums.

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PoohBearsHole · 09/05/2012 21:22

Any chance of seeing you can get a suppository - no use for tonight but maybe tomorrow? Am sure someone mentioned it to me.

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PavlovtheCat · 09/05/2012 21:40

Might talk to gp about that thanks for suggestion.

Just tried yogurt, mixed meds in with golden syrup. Not a chance! He saw right through that 'it's yucky mummy'. So I just did it. Took ages, woke dd up, she cn running upset, clinging to me which did not help one bit!
His guns are so sore ad I suspect I have made it worse by forcing a syringe into his mouth past his teeth.

But, it's done do. He has a biscuit and is watching a Thomas episode on YouTube before I attempt to conquer the next battle of getting him to bed so I can think about actually eating this evening. Although I do now have a glass of wine for my stresses Grin

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PoohBearsHole · 09/05/2012 21:47

The other alternative is to dose yourself with the piriton Wink

RandomMess · 09/05/2012 21:49

I always got a dose of something down them when they were asleep - woke them just enough to slug the syringe in their mouth followed by sippy cup of water.

PestoPenguin · 09/05/2012 21:52

My two year old pinches their own nose to take medicine that tastes bad. Most of our sense of taste comes via smell actually, so it's not as nasty with a pinched nose. She'll also accept something v tasty straight afterwards to take the taste away now, but only v recently. If she was feeling really rough I doubt she'd co-operate Sad.

Glad you managed it and hope he gets well soon.

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PavlovtheCat · 09/05/2012 21:53

Problem with giving it to him while he is asleep is that his sore mouth is stopping him from sleeping due to itchy ulcers. I am hoping the portion will knok him out ease the discomfort so he can sleep for a couple of hours.

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kipsy · 10/05/2012 14:47

This is exactly the same problem I'm facing. My DD is down with CPox, with ulcers in her mouth and is resisting Piriton... screaming!

I've tried mixing it with honey with her holding a sippy cup of water to have right after. But she's starting to wail if she sees me bringing the honey bottle..... I've tried mixing it with fever meds as well.

But I suspect that it is doing more harm than good i.e. actually causing or exacerbating the ulcers. I'm considering just giving up and using topical creams for itch relief.

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PavlovtheCat · 10/05/2012 16:30

kipsy, his spots are so so much better today, so I am not going to give him the piriton unless he is badly itching. I will give him another bath in oatmilk, bicarb of soda and camomile as this seems to be working a treat at healing the spots as the blisters burst. Yesterday he was full of angry looking sore spots and today most of them look much better, less angry, some have scabbed.

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kipsy · 11/05/2012 11:50

Pavlov, good to hear your DS is doing better!

I'm giving DD Piriton every 6 hours, hopefully I can reduce this soon. I'm not up to force-feeding meds and food! I'm putting her on a diet of liquid and soft foods till mouth sores improve. I screamed at her y'day at dinner time as she was refusing food as well as drink.... felt terrible afterwards. Aargh, sometimes being a mother/adult seems too difficult for me. Sad

flossyfloo · 11/05/2012 11:57

This may come a bit too late if your DS is getting better, but something called Difflam spray works wonders for the c.pox in his mouth. It is a spray you can use very fairly regularly that eases the pain and inflammation in the mouth. It really is amazing stuff and works pretty quickly as well. I am pretty sure you can buy it over the counter.

kipsy · 11/05/2012 17:30

thanks, flossyfloo, just got DH to get Difflam on his way home.

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PavlovtheCat · 11/05/2012 20:25

oh yes Difflam spray, I have had that myself for bad tonsilitis. I will bear that in mind as we are not over it yet. and DD has not had it, so it may well be a problem for her too. Thanks for that suggestion!

We have had to continue the piriton unfortunately, and nothing has made it easier, apart from yesterday DH being present and today a friend being present, but that did not make it easier to bear, just another person to force him down Sad i felt like such a shit mother. I know I am not, but it does feel awful.

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stargirl1701 · 11/05/2012 20:29

Mixed with choc sauce on ice-cream?

kipsy · 14/05/2012 13:24

DD finally over throat/mouth/lip ulcers. Avoided fresh fruit juice/fresh fruit for one day (switched to thin yoghurts and water to keep up fluid), applied liquid glycerine to the ulcers with a fresh earbud, and fed her some honey mixed with coconut milk (a traditional remedy).
But... now she's got a red eye. Had to pop over to GP for eye drops. Now I have to force her eye open. It never ends, does it? Sad

turnigitonitshead · 14/05/2012 13:46

I had the same problem with dd and a very dangerous bout cp, the dr prescribed suppositories as dd was virtualy unconciouse I administared once when she was asleep, however this woke her up and she was very distraught.

I spoke with the GP who unfortunatly could only advice keeping a very close eye on her incase the need for hospital admission arose as he very clearly did not advocate me forcfully giving dd medicine and I very much agreed.

I felt it would be too damaging to hold her down and force her, and lets face it if they are able to physically fight then there is really no medical reason for needing medicine other than comfort, therefore why cause the distress in order to sooth the itching. She was very close to an admission however perked up even with multiple secondary skin infections and desperate need of ABs which she refused.

It is very distressing for you and him to be this poorly so just keep a very close on eye on him and ensure he drinks and ice pols with sooth his mouth and get more fluids into him. I personaly would not sooth him. My dd has been an avid medicine refuser and has luckilly pulled through every chilhooh ailment without medicine, despite a possible worsening of some things as a result of lack of ABs.

turnigitonitshead · 14/05/2012 13:51

I ment not force him, not, not sooth him, i would definatly sooth him, lol!!

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