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A short sad history of ME/CFS

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clouty · 23/07/2010 13:23

I'm posting a history lesson, because it has huge implications for public health, and that includes the health and well being of you and your family. I was never one for a conspiracy theory, preferring to favor the muck-up theory of misdirection and error, but I have done a lot of studying in the last eighteen months, since I have been ill, and I am afraid the evidence is all there to support the following hypothesis. I am fighting for effective treatment, and that will take an increased awareness of the problem, hence this post.

For more than two decades, a deliberate muddying of the diagnosis of a serious chronic neuro-immune disease has misdirected much research. The disease Myalgic Encephalomyelitis was renamed Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, by the Centre for Disease Control in the USA, in the late 80's.

Because the criteria for diagnosis of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis has been weakened to the point that the people diagnosed as could include those without neurological symptoms, because the criteria (CDC's Fukuda 1994(1) and worse, the 2005 revised version(2) and the British Oxford definition(3)) diagnosed as people who had unrelated illnesses, the common ground being chronic fatigue, the research could not and did not reliably study Myalgic Encephalomyelitis.

The fake diagnostic criteria mentioned above also deliberately proscribed the many tests that would allow for a positive diagnosis, rather than a diagnosis of exclusion.

Meanwhile, people who actually had myalgic encephalomyelitis were misunderstood, mistreated and marginalised.

This process of confusing a specific biological disease with the very common symptom of Chronic fFatigue began at about the time that the financial impact of another illness caused by a retrovirus, HIV/AIDS, was becoming clear. The patients with ME/CFS were not dying like flies, and their illness helped make them invisible, as most were housebound and unable to protest, impoverished by years of illness. The disease became a stigma, patients were assumed to be depressed and lazy, yet ironically and conversely they were also and at the same time accused of being type A personalities who had burned out.

Neither of these explanations were true, for those placed in the ME/CFS patient cohort who actually had Myalgic Encephalomyelitis by the Canadian Consensus Criteria(4). These patients were suffering a neuro-immune disease caused by an unknown pathogen, perhaps viral, perhaps retroviral. It was a devastating disease, described by some patients as a living death. A percentage of patients were bed bound, tube fed, on morphine pumps and unable to tolerate light or noise. Many of the infected were teachers or medical professionals, and some families had two or more people who were ill with CCC ME (Canadian Consensus Criteria / Myalgic Encephalomyelitis).

The cost of treating these patients (there were more of them than in the HIV crowd) was something that governments were happy to avoid, dealing as they were already with HIV/AIDS, and helping to avoid tackling this illness head on created a career path for the unscrupulous, deluded and greedy.

Two and more decades on, private funding into ME/CFS by the parents of a young sufferer helped to refocus some (not all, more later) of the scientific community on seeking the true causation of CCC ME. The Whittemore Peterson Institute at last held out some hope, for people who had been seriously ill for decades. They published a study in Science in October 2009(5), showing by one method that 67% of those CCC ME patients tested had a retrovirus, Xenotropic Murine leukemia-virus Related Virus. A second testing method showed XMRV in 95% of the patient cohort.

Within weeks, another study was published in PlosOne(6), (7), after allowing 3 days for peer review. The WPI study was under peer review for six months. This new British study was commissioned by the notorious psychiatrist, Simon Wesseley, who had managed, over the last couple of decades, to become the pundit on all things CFS. Here are some quotes from him:

Professor Wessely has said:
"In Britain, people with chronic fatigue think that if they do too much the virus that caused it is still there and will come back and make them worse. That is catastrophising the illness. They don't think like that in France and they don't have the same outcomes. It is how you respond to symptoms that determines the outcome."

"We?re not going to go doing more and more tests to find out, well what was the virus, because frankly, even if we found it, there?s nothing we?re going to do about it.?

" What lies behind all this talk of viruses and immunity ?... In consequence, talk of viruses and the immune system is now deeply embedded in popular consciousness ... Viruses are an attribution free from blame ... there's no blame, no shame and no stigma ... and here is the virus research doctor himself to protect us from that shame... And what is it he delivers? Respect!"

"Many patients referred to a specialized hospital with chronic fatigue syndrome have embarked on a struggle. This may take the form of trying to find an acceptable diagnosis, or indeed, any diagnosis. One of the principal functions of therapy at this stage is to allow the patient to call a halt without loss of face. ..... [M.E. patients are in] a vicious circle of increasing avoidance, inactivity and fatigue....... "

"Most CFS patients fulfil diagnostic criteria for psychiatric disorder. Other symptoms include muscle pain and many somatic symptoms, especially cardiac, gastrointestinal and neurological. .... Do any of these symptoms possess diagnostic significance? The answer is basically negative... The description given by a leading gastro-enterologist at the Mayo clinic remains accurate. 'the average doctor will see they are neurotic and he will often be disgusted with them.' "

"Validation is needed from the doctor. Once that is granted, the patient may assume the privileges of the sick role (sympathy, time off work, benefits, etc)"

The man's cruelty knows no bounds. It would not be that extreme to accuse him, and his American counterpart, Bill Reeves (of the CDC), of a crime against the human rights of a seriously physically ill group of patients.

Since the Imperial College/Wessely paper was published in PlosOne, there have been other negative studies, and other positive studies. All the negative studies have two things in common. They used the loosest definition of the disease, either the Oxford or the Amended Fuduka (CDC 2005), and they failed to use the methods that were used by the WPI, despite having been given access to the techniques and positive control samples.

As someone said "They forgot to take the lens cap off the microscope"

The really sad thing about all this is that if good research had been allowed centre stage in the late 80's and early 90's, when Dr. Elaine DeFreitas(8) first found a retrovirus in CCC ME patients, and if related research had been given the backing that it warranted, then many many fewer people would now be infected with XMRV.

This gamma retrovirus, XMRV, was first found in cases of Prostate Cancer (>30%), and has also been found in other sarcomas and Autistic Spectrum Disorder patients. It is possible that this, or other retroviruses are responsible for causing Parkinsons Disease, Alzheimers, Multiple Sclerosis, and other brain and nervous system malfunctions.

A retrovirus is distinguished from other viruses by it's ability to insert genetic material into the host's DNA, effectively hijacking the host cells for its own ends. They are sneaky, lazy, and they make you ill. To date, we know of three exogenous human retroviruses: HIV, HTLV and XMRV. They all make people sick.

There is a lot of work to do yet before we discover the full impact of exogenous retroviruses on humans, but a great start has been made. And yet, in the UK, all public Medical Research Council funding for ME/CFS goes to psychological research.

When questioned why this is, the MRC say that "no applications of sufficient quality asking for funding for medical research into CFS have been submitted". This is patently untrue(9). Between 2002 and 2008 there were 33 applications for funding for biomedical research into CCC ME.

The truth is that the Department of Health, umbrella department of the MRC and the NHS, rely on Simon Wessely, Peter White, Trudy Chalder and other psychiatric types for advice, and this group have built an influential empire on muddying the definition and mistreating the patients with CCC ME.

They believe that exercise and CBT is all we need to get well. Currently, there is a study in process at Bristol University of the Lightning Process® under Dr Esther Crawley(10). They are going to subject children, some of whom really will have CCC ME, to a positive thinking regime sold by a pyramid selling technique, and invented by Phil Parker, who is doing very nicely thank you. This cannot be said for those CCC ME patients who have been through this process. As with the NHS program of Graded Exercise Therapy, the course encourages patients to ignore the symptoms of their disease. If this was all in the mind, then yes, it may work. But for children with a serious neuro-immune disease, it can, and has, aggravated symptoms to the point where they can no longer function independently at all, and are consigned bed, relying on others for all personal care.

Esther Crawley's study will include 90 children between the ages of 8 and 18. This is unethical, when there has yet to be a study of the Lightning Process® in adults. The strange thing is, Phil Parker does not allow criticism of his results on his website (and there is criticism, oh yes(11)).

People do die of complications of CCC ME: of cancers, of heart disease, of suicide because they can't stand the pain any more. Here is a list in memorium. It is by no stretch of the imagination extensive, or comprehensive.

1/ www.annals.org/content/121/12/953.full?guid=on (Fukuda 1994)
2/ www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/3/19/ (Reeves 2005)
3/ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1293107/pdf/jrsocmed00127-0072.pdf (The Oxford Definition)
4/ www.co-cure.org/ccpccd.pdf (Canadian Consensus Criteria)
5/ www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1179052 (WPI study, 10/09)

6/ www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/340/feb25_1/c1099 (Wessely/McClure Imperial College XMRV study - I see no ships!)
7/ www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/340/feb25_1/c1099#231969 (be sure to expand the comments section)

8/ www.ncf-net.org/forum/revelations.html (on the DeFreitas study,1991)

9/ www.meresearch.org.uk/information/publications/casetoanswer.html (MRC funding bias explored)

10/ www.bris.ac.uk/news/2010/6866.html (Bristol Lightning Process study)
11/ www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/3/19/0 (criticism of the Lightning Process)

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polyanna · 25/07/2010 17:41

I agree LC9 the sooner the Alter paper is released by the US the better. I am losing patience discussing this on various forums with people who have not read the evidence.The truth will be out soon and the doubters will be silenced I am certain. Lets hope that the UK gets its act together too.

clouty · 25/07/2010 18:45

Have you seen the comments page, in Retrovirology, about the method and patient group chosen for the CDC study? A number of learned scientist thoroughly demolish the negative XMRV study. www.retrovirology.com/content/7/1/57/comments

A similar case can, and has been made against the other negative studies.

Factoid of the day: Medical Research Council papers, written in 1988, have been exempted from the Freedom of Information Act, and locked until 2071. No, that is not a typo. What information can possibly be so dangerous that it has to be kept out of the public eye for 75 years?
Those applying for sight of the papers are told that they contain personal information. What on earth? That personal information (names and addresses, for instance) could be redacted, it is the import of the discussions we want to see.

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ArcticRoll · 25/07/2010 19:54

Like dinamum I had ME and then had Lighning Process treatment and have been free from ME symptons for two years. I was intitially dismissive of the treatment as had read lots of negative views on ME forums. However I had heard two positive outcomes from friends of friends and was desperate and for me it worked.

clouty · 26/07/2010 14:06

One of the points I was trying to make with my original post is that the label ME/CFS is applied to many different conditions. The diagnostic tools used by the NHS are so weak that many people with ME are not diagnosed, and many people who have other conditions are labeled as having ME/CFS.

The problem is with the definition used, as the Fukuda, Oxford and CDC 2005 all exclude the use of the biomedical tests that would lead to a positive diagnosis of ME.

So you may be diagnosed with ME, do the treatment (GET, CBT and Lightning Process®) and find it helps. Which is great, don't get me wrong. I would love it if the whole world was well and happy. I really would.

But if you have CCC ME, a real biological neuro-immune disease, then these sorts of treatments are positively harmful. A friend of mine was treated four years ago at the Burgess Hill ME/CFS clinic, he tried really hard to follow the course, after all we all want to get better, but he has yet, four years later, to get back to the state he was in before he started the treatment. He was not well before going to the clinic, but he was a whole lot worse after it, and still is.

Sophia Mirza was sectioned, and put through a regime of psychological and physical training, that put her in the relapse that eventually killed her. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Mirza

Ean Proctor was taken from his parents, put in a mental home, where they believed his paralysis was psychological, so they threw him in the swimming pool and he sunk. He had to be pulled out in a hurry. You couldn't make this stuff up. www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJmis85FM4s

This situation is appalling, we need correct diagnostic methods to be used, otherwise how can the doctors begin to treat us correctly?

The politics are getting in the way of effective research, diagnosis and treatment.

This is about the health of you and your family, as well as me and mine. I am fighting for our lives.

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optimisticmumma · 26/07/2010 17:31

My DD has also seen Dr Crawley and is still well 15 months after doing LP. Thank God we did it and she is back at school doing GCSEs. I simply have my daughter back.I find it very sad that people who criticise LP have not necessarily done it. My step brother has also benefitted in NZ 25 years after first being ill.

LC9 · 27/07/2010 00:42

The definition of CFS/ME in the UK contains many diseases, this is why the LP will have no effect on so many of them.

There is no scientific evidence to support the LP

thumbwitch · 27/07/2010 05:39

In a similar but completely different vein, you have MS - which is another syndrome of multiple factors. Some patients with MS will respond really well to e.g. B12 injections, suggesting that part of the causation of their MS is in fact B12 deficiency - but many won't. Others will respond well to fish oils, suggesting that omega 3 fatty acid deficiency is part of the causation of their MS, but others won't.

Some cases of CFS will respond well to Lightning Process and other psychological training - others (that have an underlying biochemical process going on) are unlikely to.

Another disease that is about to fall under this category is Alzheimer's - new research has found a biochemical process that causes Alzheimer's disease in rats, that can then be reversed - this will help people with Alzheimer's disease who have the same biochemical process in their brains - but a few years back they widened the definition of Alzheimer's disease to cover all cases of senile dementia, whatever the cause. My grandmother, for example, had SD because of multiple mini-strokes. She didn't have the same biochemical process as AD but she was labelled as AD. At the time a definite ID of Alzheimer's disease was only possible at post-mortem.

There might be no "scientific" evidence to support LP but that is no reason to chuck it out the window. If it works for some patients, then it is a valid process - but not one that should be pushed onto every patient, as it is obviously detrimental to other patients. How to screen who it would work for and who it wouldn't, that is the question.

DBennett · 27/07/2010 11:32

@LC9

What makes you believe the paper is being held back "because of the enormous world wide implications of the discovery"?

Alter is not commenting.
To my knowledge the other authors have not made statements.

Have I missed something?

@Clouty

Which of those commentators are "learned scientists"?
I struggle to find papers by them in either the virology or CFS literature.
Kindlon writes a lot of letter to medical journals though.

RE: Lightning Process

I've tried to avoid commenting on this treatment modality, mainly because I didn't think it was central to the topic and didn't want to get sidetracked.
I also hoped it would fade from the forum.

However, it doesn't seem to be going away so I'll give my opinion.

LP is almost certainly no more effective than placebo.
I say this, not because of high quality evidence (as there isn't any) but due to the biologic implausibility and the many "red flags" for ineffective treatments that appear in the information people have been linking to.

All the references used to justify the treatment do not relate to the treatment. They barely support a theoretical reason why it might be possible for something to work on these points of CFS.
They certainly do not support the use of LP.

It is being put forward as way of treating a wide variety of conditions which are, to all intents and purposes, unrelated.
Having one cure for a dozen conditions is a big concern.
It is much more likely that any effect seen is driven by non-specific means, the placebo effect for example.

The inventor is an osteopath. This may seem harsh but osteopathy has barely escaped it's unscientific beginnings to demonstrate effectiveness for back and shoulder pain.
It seems very unlikely it provides the expertise in neurology and endocrinology which would be required to work in the areas that the LP is supposed to be based on.

I hope I'm wrong and if the planned study materialises and prove me wrong I'll be happy to admit it.
But that's my thinking at the moment.

polyanna · 27/07/2010 11:35

I agree and in a perfect world that would happen but not in the world of ME. It is cheaper and easier not to do the necessary epidemological study or the appropriate biomedicalresearch and to use management/behavioural techniques in place of medical treatments. Also Drs who help and support us are sidelined like Dr Sarah Myhill and the helpful treatments she uses are ridiculed. You could not make this up. I cannot disagree with anything that Clouty says-sadly it is all true yet almost unbelievable.

polyanna · 27/07/2010 11:40

ps In my last message I was agreeing Clouty and LC9 -just wanted to make that clear.

optimisticmumma · 27/07/2010 12:01

Thanks thumbwitch - you put beautifully what I was going to say.

Re: LP
Let's just hope that no-one reading this thread would be put off from trying something that may get them well.

Along with Dinamum I will bow out now as I can see that the conversation re LP is going nowhere.

I wish you all well and hope you find relief from this terrible illness soon...

LC9 · 27/07/2010 14:54

The definitions used for CFS are more like bunching everyone with a cough under the heading Chronic cough syndrome, than having them listed under the same disease, like MS. They could wipe out Tuberculosis, AIDS, Cancer, lots of things by doing that.

There is no evidence to support the lightening process, that is not say it would not be right to do a study. However, as there are reports of patient doing well and patients, more importantly, being made sicker by this, it is entirely wrong to test this on children first. What kind of sick mind would do that, if some of those children will end up worse of. They have no idea what damage they are about to do to those children, and why not get consenting adults first. It is simply child abuse.

As for the critique of the CDC study, Dr Vernon has her name on many papers, and is well known in the field, and states that they designed a study incapable of finding XMRV.

Let's put it this way, when would the Government hold back a study that has been undertaken by the man that discovered Hp C? Only because the ramifications are enormous. If 3% to 7% of the population go onto develop disease, that would cripple medicare. Never mind the law suits that will follow from being given contaminated blood, and abuse from the medical profession. Obviously this is hypothetical at this stage, but it is going that way.

thumbwitch · 27/07/2010 15:21

Well yes and no, LC9 - MS is a syndrome that has different aspects to it as well, and different factors causing it. It's not really one disease, even though the manifestation of the symptoms may be similar.

Although I take your point - too many disparate things have been lumped together under CFS (although it's slightly better than PVS, isn't it)

DBennett · 27/07/2010 15:25

@LC9

So you believe the paper is being held back to under US government mandate to avoid paying for biomedical treatment and compensation.

And this is based on your inability to think of any reasons why a scientific paper by a respected scientist could get held up before publication.

The majority of conference presentations never make it to print.
Some get folded into other studies, some are skewered by a shift in the data, some are torn apart at conference and the authors has to go back to the drawing board.

And, in this case, there isn't even a poster presentation. This was just a few sentences.

There are so many reasons why a paper could get held up that have nothing to do with the scope of the content.

And even if the content is that paradigm shifting as you say, it doesn't seem to hold up publications.

The three most read articles in the British Medical Journal are highly critical of current medical practice, all areas now the subject of class action law suits.

Artificial Blood is an even more recent example. The law suits for that are just beginning.

But to compare more directly to a paradigm shift in disorder aetiology I don't think we have to look any farther than Helicobacter Pylori.
A billion dollar industry invalidated by researchers who when they first published were alone in the literature.
Their findings were replicated and now Marshall and Warren have a noble prize.

CFS is a very polarised field, that would be clear from this topic alone if it wasn't already well known.
And feelings run strong.

But to appeal to the idea of CFS being alone in the field of medical controversy is unhelpful and inaccurate.

LC9 · 27/07/2010 15:44

No, the paper has been held back so they can get their act together.

This paper is not the conference presentation. The conference presentation only mentioned what the study shows. The paper had already been through peer review at PNAS when Government officials pulled it. The Government has admitted that they have done this, it's not a rumour.

If you have to suddenly put 1 million people in the states on anti-retrovirals it will cripple medicare.

"But to appeal to the idea of CFS being alone in the field of medical controversy is unhelpful and inaccurate." You added that, I have never said such a thing.

DBennett · 27/07/2010 16:25

When you say the government have admitted they have done this, could you point me to the statement to that effect.

I've heard that thought attributed to a few sources, some anonymous, some named.

But I can't find the original statement,either by any of the individuals named or by the Department of Health & Human Services.

Care to help me out?

LC9 · 27/07/2010 16:32

www.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/health/14fatigue.html?_r=3&ref=health

"The study, already peer-reviewed, was supposed to appear in the prestigious Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences."

"Federal officials said publication was delayed because the findings contradicted those of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which conducted its own study on chronic fatigue and the retrovirus, known as XMRV. "

LC9 · 27/07/2010 16:33

and blogs.wsj.com/health/2010/06/30/am-vitals-confusion-over-xmrv-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-contin ues/

" Papers submitted by the groups to different journals have gone through the peer review process but are being held at the government?s request until their differences can be explained, the WSJ says."

LC9 · 27/07/2010 16:35

and

www.independent.co.uk/news/science/study-that-solves-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-blocked-202 2195.html

"However, American government officials have persuaded the journal, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, to hold off from publishing the scientific paper because it contradicted a second study by other government scientists at the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which like the FDA is also an arm of the US Department of Health and Human Services."

LC9 · 27/07/2010 16:38

Quote from World famous retrovirologist on the hold.

""It's fair to say it's not a usual kind of thing," said John M. Coffin, a special adviser to the National Cancer Institute and a professor at Tufts University in Boston..."

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703374104575337160225739290.html

DBennett · 27/07/2010 16:48

I had seen the the WSJ and the NYT articles, in fact they have both been mentioned through links here.

I was not aware of the independent story (although I think that link is broken, it just took me to a tennis story).

But I meant the sources.

Newspapers have a vested interest in controversy, just look at the mess made on MMR.

And if you look at the thread, quite clearly we are a group of people who like to see the evidence for themselves.

LC9 · 27/07/2010 16:56

The Government has admitted it, 3 top notch newspapers have confirmed it. Get real.

Here is the Independent again:
www.independent.co.uk/news/science/study-that-solves-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-blocked -2022195.html

The Independent newspaper article was also posted by the ME Association.

www.meassociation.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1342:xm rv-non-publication-controversy-breaks-in-the-british-press&catid=30:news&Itemid=161

DBennett · 27/07/2010 17:11

I'm sure the papers will be flattered by your endorsement.

But they are not infallible.

And Steve Conner has a record of inaccuracy.

Are you able to link to the confirmation?

LC9 · 27/07/2010 17:14

They have confirmed it, there in black and white

LC9 · 27/07/2010 17:16

Amy Dockser Marcus, from the Wall Street Journal, is a pulitzer prize winning writer.