Nannies - wage query.

[Pennies]

What is a top end salary (weekly, net) these days?

What would you expect or look to be paid for a nanny / housekeeper role which is 12 hours a day, 5 days a week?

Sorry to ask a personal money question but I'm having difficulty getting a straight answer from agencies and nannies alike.

Depends on where you are, the age of the children and live in out live out.

For an example, I am a nanny/housekeeper who lives in and looks after 4 children and is paid for 7am to 7pm but works a lot more and is only paid 355/week.

In Herts. Children aged 4 & 5 so in school (although 4 yr old does 2 x half days). Cooking, light housework (no loo cleaning or anything like that), laundry for whole family.

Top end, hmmm...

Live in, around 400/week and Live out around 500/week for Herts.

Depends how top end you want your nanny to be. Or your housekeeper if that's more important. I suggest you have a non committal chat with Greycoats who specialise in that sort of thing but £450 live in, £600 live out would be absolute top whack and yours is relatively light on the childcare side. That puts you on £10 net per hour for live out.

Top end for 12 hours a day would be £600 net I think - that's a gross annual salary of around £42k.

as always salary dpends on area,age,exp and what role, ie yours is mixed

many nannies wont/dont do cleaning/laundry/housekeeper stuff

i still think you need to ask your cleaner to do more hours and look for a nanny

the hours are long and though herts isnt kent where i live, when i work 12hrs i get £120nett

I am a nanny in Herts (not a housekeeper) and I charge £15 per hour gross for my services. I primarily work as a maternity nanny and I only take on temp contracts so I don't know if that makes a difference.

For finding top quality nannies, Hawthorne in Harpenden is a fantastic agency. I don't know if they also provide housekeepers but it may be worth calling Julie to find out.

I've asked the cleaner and she's not up for more hours. Agencies are telling me £400 is going rate.

then if your cleaner wont do more,what do you ideally need/want done in the house?

or is it everything that you would normally do, ie washing/cooking/ironing/making beds etc

if you cant find a nanny/housekeeper, could you get a mothers help, or do you want/need someone with a bit of savy/sole charge as you will be resting/having treatment - so maybe get a nanny and another cleaner to do stuff that you need done?

Top end salary in Herts would be around £10 net - so £600 per week. A reasonable salary in your area would be £8 net - so around £480 net a week. I've seen your ad and you seem to be offering £350 - £400 a week which I don't think I'd do for 12 hour days. Are you getting any replies? Have the agency had any candidates for you. I wonder if it is the 12 hour days that are the problem? They seem common in London, but not so here in Herts.

Have you thought about a part time nanny and upping your cleaners hours so that she is in several times a week. Though thinking about it, that doesn't solve school holidays. Or what about hiring 2 nannies - 2 1/2 days each or 3 days and 2 days. Could your children cope with that or do you feel it would be too much on top of what your family are already dealing with?

Sorry X post re cleaner. Must admit I find Tinies tend to advertise on the lower end of the pay scale.

I second Paula on Julie at Hawthornes - lovely lady, very down to earth but also professional.

Temp people generally charge more because there's no continuation of work, paid holidays etc which is fair enough.

I used to Nanny in Herts 8-7pm so 11 hour days/5 days a week. When i left there in 2001 i was earning £330 per week=£6 per hour.

I would expect to see 60 hours now paying £9 net per week.

Its a big shame my partner isn't a Nanny like me as he has just done a fab job (and enjoyed it) looking after our two children whilst i was in hospital and recovering for 3 weeks.

The 12 hour days didn't put me off and i stayed there for 4 years until the Mum gave up working. If i didn't have children of my own i would do it again no problem.

Sorry * amend above-I would expect to see 60 hours now paying £9 net per hour*

Really I only want one person because otherwise I'll have the house crawling with different poeple.

Love my cleaner and don't want to get rid for someone that can do more hours. She's become a good friend and she does loads of babysitting for us.

I was lead to believe that current economic climate = 100s of brlliant nannies desperate for work. Yeah right.

All depends on the area. If you live surrounded by ex-bankers who've had to let their nanny go, yes. If not then no!

I am sure you will find the right person, don't be put off by newly qualified either as i had only 2 years post college experience when i went into my long hours job and can honestly say i enjoyed it so much and had sooo much energy as i was so young! (i also worked a Saturday then too for a different family!)

I am looking to work 1 long day per week and shorter day too, so if you do get to the point where you need to split the job then do keep me in mind. I have 13yrs experience as a Nanny and currently a Childminder.

I personally think the economy has curbed "frivilous" childcare in certain areas, ie drop in babysitting. But "core" childcare remains unchanged.

I'm in Bristol and none of my nanny friends have been made redundant but I do know 12 peope who have been made redundant in the finance and IT sector.

Also why do you need 12 hours? Can you not get a before and after school nanny who also works full time in school hols??

I personally wouldn't apply for your job regardless of pay because the childcare element is only going to get lighter over the next year as your youngest goes to school full time. And I really hated the domestic part of being a nanny (hence the switch to childminder!)

I need someone to help coz I've got to have chemo.

i am very suprised that agencys cant find you a temp nanny for 6mths or so

have you looked on netmums local?

60 hour week, Live Out. I feel £600 Gross would be typical, so probably £1015 Gross per week at very top end.
NET equivalents are about: £450 to £720 - though Mumsnetter's don't agree Net salaries

Hi
I am temp nannying doing Mon- Thurs 7-7 and Fri 7-3 and get £400 nett live in.
I am going to Germany to temp (6 weeks) Mon to Fri 7-7 live in and the wage is £500 nett. I am there as a nanny with no house work but I like cleaning!!! so I do what needs doing, eg; just plumbed in a washing machine!!!! cleaned windows! ironing. I work with new mums that have siblings or where mum has broken a bone and is in plaster! or has had a operation.
I would look at jobs around £400 to £600nett week if live in as I am prepared to do whats needed.

Nannynick - that's going to cost us in the region of £40k - £50k a year!!!

My god, I can't believe anyone can afford it.

I thought it would be £30k tops.

You did ask for top end! Very qualified and experienced nannies will earn well over £30k and then you need to factor in tax and NI.