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How many AP's do you think you have to have before you have perfectly honed your handbook to cover all areas of stupidity?

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Weegle · 30/07/2009 08:24

We are on AP number 4 (if you include the one who lasted 8 days). And TBH I find it a right laborious PITA getting them established (might have something to do with hyperemisis and double-whammy pregnancy hormones but bear with me). We have a very detailed handbook which is revised twice in each AP's stay (once in their first few weeks whilst new things bug me, and once at the end when I want to change things because new things bug me). New things to be added in the fortnight this new one has been here are:

If the schedule says 9am start, that means you are up, showered, dressed, breakfasted and ready to go at 9am - not set your alarm at 9am. Or if it says 3pm start you don't walk in the door at 3.01pm and need to sort out a million bags of clothes shopping. No amount of telling her is working.

Locking the doors when you go out and are leaving the house unattended means actually putting the key in the lock and turning it - it's not a very secure house if I come home and can walk in the WIDE OPEN back door.

Keeping on top of the laundry does not mean on a rainy day putting one top and a pair of pants in the washing machine and then the tumble drier. And if I say "don't iron the bedding, life is too short" I actually mean it - especially once I've said it for the third time. (It's the one area she's over efficient).

If my DS asks the Q "Why?" I don't expect you to be fed up of it within 2 weeks of being here and sarcastically reply at all times "why do you think?" to a very bewildered and genuinely curious 3 year old.

Currently in bold but now going to be put in HUGE capitals as well "If you are unsure about anything ASK first before attempting it"

Oh there is more, but honestly - aren't some things just OBVIOUS? Whether you're 19 or not?!

Rant over

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
Weegle · 30/07/2009 19:05

aha! so am I, but only just - on the west border...

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FabBakerGirlIsBack · 30/07/2009 19:09

I am in the Medway towns.... (I think)

Weegle · 30/07/2009 19:13

oh that's a real shame as that's over an hour - honestly was chomping at the bit there for someone to cuddle a baby!

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FabBakerGirlIsBack · 30/07/2009 19:14

I don't mind driving an hour

Weegle · 30/07/2009 19:38

really? seriously? they are due around new year...

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FabBakerGirlIsBack · 30/07/2009 19:44

Believe me, an hour is nothing if it gets me out and gives me a good day.

Summer holidays beckon - weeks to fill...

Is so exciting, twins.

You might not want me though as I was expecting twins and m/c one. I mean, don't want you thinking I am living my loss through you.

I would be happy to help though.

Weegle · 30/07/2009 19:50

I'm so touched, honestly. Are you on CAT? I used to be, can't remember how to work it? I'm nice and mobile at the moment (well relatively, using my crutches!) so could meet part way? What age are your DC's? And I wouldn't think anything... just touched someone actually would like to have a meeting with the babes and DS and I are quite nice too

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FabBakerGirlIsBack · 30/07/2009 19:51

Yep, have CAT.

email is mushy31894 at fsmail dot net

mine are
ds1 - 8
dd - almost 6
ds2 - 4

Weegle · 30/07/2009 19:57

will mail you...

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FabBakerGirlIsBack · 30/07/2009 20:27

Have replied

MrsSchadenfreude · 31/07/2009 00:11

I love a happy ending.

kittywise · 31/07/2009 13:15

That's great weegle!

BTW did she get up this morning?

Weegle · 31/07/2009 14:40

sort of - she was 'only' 10 minutes late by the time she was available for work... still not great though. But she's been mostly very good otherwise today.

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FabBakerGirlIsBack · 31/07/2009 15:17

I would make a comment that while she did better today, it still isn't acceptable and if she doesn't want to be available from 9 then you won't be paying her from nine.

DadInsteadofMum · 31/07/2009 16:41

Definitely alarm clock under the bed time.

mananny · 31/07/2009 16:50

Tell her you are paying her for a certain number of hours per day, and if she doesn't work the full time she is supposed to, then her pay will be docked.

Totallyfloaty35 · 31/07/2009 18:17

I have opposite problem,my aupair doesnt stop working,even when i give her the day off she irons.I feel really guilty but she keeps saying she likes to work but i feel obliged to pay her extra even though we really dont have the money to.

FabBakerGirlIsBack · 31/07/2009 18:30

totallyfloaty - now you are paying her she will carry on doing extras.

Just tell her no more.

Weegle · 02/08/2009 20:14

well we have an interesting week ahead of us and she's working (and being paid) extra hours - I had a long chat with her this evening and wrote on the schedule in huge capitals "START WORK AT X TIME" on each day. I went through each day and repeated what that meant. I think I might have got through to her, but time will tell. DH had quite a chat with her on Friday (prompted by me ending up in hospital with palpitations) about how we need her to be reliable etc - and to be fair to her, she was great with DS whilst we were gone for a long time beyond her hours. So fingers crossed we MIGHT have made some progress. It's so hard because you really want to keep the balance right as we all need to enjoy each other's company, I always feel like if you come down too heavy you'll lose the relationship which is what makes it work having someone in your home.

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FabBakerGirlIsBack · 02/08/2009 20:16

Are you okay now Weegle?

Poohbah · 02/08/2009 20:34

If you want well trained staff PAY for well trained staff, otherwise be prepared to nuture and train your au pair properly. Think what you were like at that age/level of experience etc...

Poohbah · 02/08/2009 20:47

Hi, I read the whole thing and realise you are disabled. You should ask for an assessment of your needs and the Social Services department should be able to provide you with Direct Payments which would help you buy contibute to any care you are eligible for. Sure start is neither here nor there. The issue for the SSD to assess your needs to enable you to care for your children without depriving them of the normal things that children do because of your disability. The Carers Act and The Childrens Act apply here.

Weegle · 02/08/2009 20:57

That's interesting Poohbah as SS were positively not interested in my situation AT ALL. They didn't even offer an assessment. My health visitor explained that because I WAS coping and not harming DS that basically I was up shit creak without a paddle. I suppose I could try again as I have even more medical history now than 2 years ago, but there's only so many times you can keep fighting before you give up and think sod it.

FBG - yes much better thank you, although I have to go for an ECG tomorrow. I've never been so scared - my heart rate was between 150-200 for 50 minutes, then 110 for 2 hours, truly horrible. At the moment they are thinking it could be my thyroid so got tests for that as well. Or it could just be one of those random pregnancy things. Honestly, it never rains but it pours!

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FabBakerGirlIsBack · 02/08/2009 21:21

Shout if you want anything.

I could do with keeping busy.

kittywise · 03/08/2009 07:24

Poohbah I didn't realise that turning up for work on time constituted being well trained

Hope you are ok today weegle and that AP pulls her socks up.

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