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Paid childcare

Discuss everything related to paid childcare here, including childminders, nannies, nurseries and au pairs.

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What would an unqualified childcare worker earn ?

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Sorrento · 27/04/2009 20:11

If looking for somebody who would literally just run the children around to various activities and then cook them tea.
What would be a fair rate ?
Would pay for mileage too.

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dmo · 28/04/2009 20:19

Shoshe · 28/04/2009 20:22

Ofsted didnt do Childminders in 2000, I went over in 2001???

And even before that your own children counted in your numbers.

Chellesgirl · 28/04/2009 20:46

no lol that was when my mum became one lol. I knew someone would get it twisted. no I was looking about 4 months ago but decided it wasnt for me, Id rather build and own a childrens home.

and thats probably why the rules have changed Shoshe. If ofsted wernt around for childminders then, then having her own children around her (my mum) it wouldnt have counted.

I remember her having to do her NVQ a year after she started actually and when all the new rules and rgulations came into play. like educating the children in your care etc...

Shoshe · 28/04/2009 20:49

But it DID count with the Council register as well.

Chellesgirl · 28/04/2009 21:04

www.surestart.gov.uk/_doc/P0002411.pdf 2.2 childminding ratios.

bullet points 3,4,5

Demonstrate that you can care for any amount of children above the age of 8 (blood relative/other child) and will not count in numbers.

Also exceptions can be made for brothers/sisters

Im also thinking if your child is disabled (needing continuos care) then ofsted can make exceptions.

willowthewispa · 28/04/2009 21:18

But Chellesgirls, as that clearly states:

"The ratios include the childminder?s own children and any others for
whom s/he is responsible and who are on the premises."

KatyMac · 28/04/2009 21:25

Sorry the Surestart National Standards are obsolete & have been since Sept 08

You need to be looking at the EYFS paperwork now

nannynick · 28/04/2009 21:38

Chellesgirl - You seem to like digging a large hole. Stop digging

nannynick · 28/04/2009 21:44

Sorrento - I feel you need to consider hard if you really want to employ close family. If you fell out over something work related, would that affect your relationship family wise? Would your brother do as you tell him? If your brother had a problem whist caring for your children, would he call you or mum? Do you really want all your close family knowing what is happening at your home?

Give it careful thought... then if you are still thinking it would work out, ask your brother what he would want to be paid.

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Sorrento · 28/04/2009 22:07

I think I have cold feet, calves and thighs in all honesty.
However I am really struggling to find anyone at all so I'm glad I started looking early.

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nannynick · 28/04/2009 22:19

I'm not sure exactly what it is your are looking for. Perhaps you need to focus on that - the hours and days they would work, what duties they would do, how that would differ during school holiday time, that kind of thing. Once you have created a job profile, it may give you ideas on who may fit the role - for example, a mum whose children have left the nest, a mum who brings their own child with them, a college student.

I once did some nannying which involved collecting 3 children from school/activities and taking them to various activities, also making dinner (or part-making), assisting with homework/music practice and putting the younger two to bed. I'm not sure what you are wanting... but perhaps you are wanting something similar to that.

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Sorrento · 28/04/2009 22:40

That's actually exactly what I'm looking for, job spec has gone in the local paper, I've had a few CV's in but none that particularly impress.

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nannynick · 28/04/2009 23:01

When I did it, I had a full-time job at the time in retail - so I was doing the nanny on my days off from the retail job.
I'm not sure how many people would be able to do this sort of thing... the timings can be a bit messy, so it may take you a while to find a suitable candidate.
When I did this... the parent contacted me after I had advertised myself as a babysitter in the local paper. So it may be worth you responding to adverts, as well as placing them.

Chellesgirl · 29/04/2009 18:14

Sorry nannynick Ill stop digging!

Anyways I agree with nannynick on the advert side. I advertised myself as a babysitter too, before I got present job.

It is hard driving ten miles at half 6 in the morning then gong home at half nine after tidying the house, then 'trying' to have a catch up nap when dd's around, going back at 3 to pick kids up, and cooking etc...

I took it becuase we were strapped for cash. She doesnt take advantage of me, she says I should do what I would normally do in my own home and I can bring dd whenever i like.

If the person you find doesnt have children and is qualified, drives, has fully comp insurance etc... I would pay them a bit more than I get for definate. If it was any other family, then I would ask for around £6-7hr plus petty.

I also find it nice that i get the 'day' 9:30 - 2:30 to myself though.

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