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Nannies: market rates (bit controversial)

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Tanzie · 10/04/2005 19:35

Having read on another thread ("Paying Nannies when sick") gripes from UK nannies about jobs going to girls from accession countries who will work for less, (and do more in the way of housework), is this not just pushing the market rate down for qualified/experienced nannies?

I am not in UK, but I would look at it as providing more affordable childcare, provided you can find someone trustworthy and reliable. I lived in UK briefly about 4 years ago and a nanny friend of mine was earning GBP 25,000 and got a flat thrown in with it. This is more than I was earning at the time and could never have afforded this sort of money for someone to look after my children.

I am not suggesting slave labour from Central European girls, or paying them an au pair's "pocket money" for what is essentially a nanny job, but paying them a reasonable wage and providing free accommodation means that a lot of people, who could not afford a nanny or nursery fees, will probably be able to get back to work.

Of course, there will always be those who want a Norland nanny and can afford one, but it seems to me that your average Mum would welcome these Central Europeans with open arms...

I'll run and hide now...

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Ameriscot2005 · 12/04/2005 17:49

Gawd, stop going on about the fantastic job. Do you seriously not think that we know exactly what the job entails?

Ameriscot2005 · 12/04/2005 17:49

Gawd, stop going on about the fantastic job. Do you seriously not think that we know exactly what the job entails?

Ameriscot2005 · 12/04/2005 17:49

Gawd, stop going on about the fantastic job. Do you seriously not think that we know exactly what the job entails?

Ameriscot2005 · 12/04/2005 17:49

Gawd, stop going on about the fantastic job. Do you seriously not think that we know exactly what the job entails?

Ameriscot2005 · 12/04/2005 17:50

Sorry, don't feel that strongly about the last point

NannyJo · 12/04/2005 17:52

WHY THE HELL HAVE I DRIVEN YOU TO THIS. AM I NOT ALLOWED TO STAND UP FOR MYSELF TO, OR DO I NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR CRAP ALL THE TIME. dISHWASHER, IN MY EXPERIENCE PARENTS DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT IS( MY EXPERIENCE ONLY AS FAR AS I KNOW) SHOUL I BE EXPECTED TO FILL THEIR DINNER PLATES FROM NIGHT BEFORE AND DO EVERYTHING ELSE FOR THEM, PERHAPS I COULD WIPE THEIR ARSES TOO!!

MaryP0p1 · 12/04/2005 17:54

If you did you felt very strongly indeed.

There is a point which has been missed. Your nanny is exactly that your nanny. Your nanny is paid to do a job which is agreed in advance HOPEFULLY. Your nanny is not the parent and has not chosen to have your children and your family life. Your nanny is employed to help you where you need help but cannot replace you nor would want to. So why is there the expectation of many Nanny employers here to be you when you are not there?

uwila · 12/04/2005 17:59

Nannyjo, Cod is misbehaving. She is only having fun getting a rise out of you. And she has only come to this thread because she thought she could get a rise of of you (or someone else).

Marypop, I couldn't agree more. The contract defines the job and the pay... all of the terms. I definitely agree with you there.

reindeer · 12/04/2005 17:59

NannyJo, don't bite. Americascot2005 hasn't anything else to do just now except try to wind you up.

As I said before, pity her poor au pair!

Ameriscot2005 · 12/04/2005 17:59

Nannyjo, I sense that you are offended by negative generalisations about nannies, yet you offer the same for parents. Why the double standard?

cod · 12/04/2005 18:00

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Ameriscot2005 · 12/04/2005 18:02

Awww, my poor au pair. Shall I drag her away from MSN messenger so she can speak for herself?

Way to detract attention from nannies

uwila · 12/04/2005 18:02

I knew I was going to regret saying that. No offense, Cod. But, you are guilty on this occassion.

Ameriscot2005 · 12/04/2005 18:03

Well I appreciate that Cod is here to lighten things up a little. Far to many people are taking themselves waaaay too seriously

NannyJo · 12/04/2005 18:06

as i keep saying, my experience have been the lead to my arguements. i have worked for some LOVELY families but also some absolutley awful ones (children were fantastic)that have almost drove me to leave this proffession completley. when i left my last family to have my DS i was SSSSSOOOOOOOOO low about nannying it was unbelievable. Since having my WONDERFUL baby i have learn't al over again how wonderful children are. i understand not everyones situation was like mine but these experiences are what i have to base my own opinions on. i am not generalising parents on a whole at all, i was sticking up for why i feel i am worth being paid what i get paid.(which i will admit is very good for even a nanny wage)

lou33 · 12/04/2005 18:10

easy ladies, calm and rational discussion etc

JoolsToo · 12/04/2005 18:10

hey Cod look!

cod · 12/04/2005 18:11

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cod · 12/04/2005 18:11

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Twiglett · 12/04/2005 18:14

Can someone give me a precis of this barney so I can pick a side please

cod · 12/04/2005 18:15

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JoolsToo · 12/04/2005 18:15

I think basically the nannies don't want to do housework too???????????????????

MaryP0p1 · 12/04/2005 18:16

Does anyone WANT to do housework?

cod · 12/04/2005 18:16

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JoolsToo · 12/04/2005 18:19

no, cook your own plucking duck!

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