nanny wages cash in hand

[janett]

why oh why do some employers feel the need to offer x amount pay and then when it comes to signing contracts they want to pay at least a 1/3 cash in hand? dont they realise nannys might one day want a mortgage ect..

Rural midlands.

wow - she really is getting a dammed good deal!!

said it before mummyp , but your nanny/hk REALLY takes the piss!!

it is her JOB to empty DW, tidy up etc,esp as your children are at school all day

Im still happy to come and drink pimms in your pool, if i am ever in your area but wouldnt leave my job and my lovely bosses and work for you,as lovely as you sound,my bossea are FAB - though the pool does tempt me - had one in last job and miss it

why do you keep her on and have you given her a budget for this summer hols for trips etc?

said it before but will shout it

BORROWING without asking is stealing

Yes i have. £30 a week. Today she went to the cinema and spent £37. !

15 on entrance. 15 on snacks ( 5.58 on pick and mix ! ) and 6.20 to park the car. Then after the cinema she dragged my children round the summer sales and bought a load of clothes for herself!!!

Should I be cross ? Is this normal nanny behaviour ?

bot normal, yes i have gone shopping with my kids, but not sales and not when off school

you gave her a budget, fair enough cinema and car park costs, therefore you take drinks/snacks from home rather than spend £!%

make it clear next time,if she goes over budget, she pays

bet she would stop then

£30 a week is plenty

Def not normal nanny behaviour in my view. Today I did have an expensive day - £12.50, which was train tickets (steam railway) plus two ice-cream's. Some days, I can spend £2, sometimes nothing at all.

School Holiday periods are more expensive than term-time, but it does not mean that you can't limit the expenditure by setting a weekly budget. Then the children (and nanny) can decide to blow the budget on one outing, or make it last by doing lower cost things for the entire week.

£15 even

Oh you did set a budget - yet she still spent over the budget! Did the extra come from her own pocket? What about the rest of the week, I guess they will be visiting the local park.

£15 on snacks!! - although I'm one of these hippy nannies that makes a packed lunch/brings snacks from home for everything though lol.
unless we were specifically going out for a meal that is!

I very occasionally run personal errands in town whilst my charge is with me - but I wouldn't buy a new wardrobe! and I pretty much only do it when she's having a quick snooze in her buggy so 15/20 mins shop time max

and only when I've cleared it with my MB as I sometimes pick up things she needs too etc

she should either pay the extra or take it from next week, and give her £23 - mean nanny here

park or swim in their own pool tom and thur

thats an extra £120 a month ON TOP of her already (IMO) cushty wage

GET RID!!

If I didn't love my job so much I'd be making a beeline for you MP

well of course this week she owes the kitty £40 so thats where it came from but next monday she will get £30 quid and that is it.

I dont think it is unreasonable at all. I wouldnt spend 15 quid on snacks if I took them. Its not about the money but rather discipline. They would be allowed a drink and a few sweets but not £4 of popcorn as well.

The funny thing is she is a very hippy alternative person who eats all organic and makes her own skincare yet stuffs my children full of sweets. I thnk its because she is lazy and cant be bothered.

I dont mind paying a good wage.....hell as a lawyer I earn one but I do hate bad value for money which is what I feel i get.

Funny. life eh. Yet above all she is a very safe sensible person with them and they adore her.

As a parent its a tough call. Nice to feel however form all you lovely people on mumsnet that my grumpy uncharitable thoughts about her arent that way out.

Thanks.......and by the way all mumsnet nannies and nanny employers passing .the pool is blue sparkling 82 degrees and open for visits.

xx

if she is so healthy living it seems ridiculous she is happy to let your children have sweets - and how difficult is it to give children fruit/veg? and i'm not really a fan of sugar rushing children, the crash is so terrible for them I've found. its hard enough at the end of a busy day without having to eat dinner while crashing from being stuffed with sweets

when we go out, our current favourite snacks are carrot sticks and sugar snaps with (sometimes!) a side of homemade hummous - delish! or we have a mini fruit bowl each, or share an apple - the most exciting thing my charge has is those organix snack type things, but theres so many different fruits etc she likes I don't really bring them with us!
but my point is, these things are easy to bring or even buy ifyswim?

god I sound like a militant old tree hugger LOL

I think the fact she is sensible is a plus point but then children will develop a liking for someone who lets them have sweets all the time [hmmm] def agree with bad value for money - I'm sure there are many safe, adorable and HONEST nannies who would not spend all your money+ not bat an eyelid loading a dishwasher

but I can imagine how daunting the thought of re-interviewing and unsettling your home would be - I wish you all the best+really hope it works out for you xx

ps - may def have to take you up on the pool offer, sounds lurvely!!
not sure when I'd manage it, but hey, a girl can dream eh?

Just backtracking yes Athene that was the site, I don't spend a lot of time on there but I can remember people commenting about it.
Mummypoppins you were that person I remember thinking at the time you sound like such a lovely employer (and it sounds like a cushy job!!) that I almost suggested to dh that I leave him here and I come up and work for you!

£15 on cinema snacks is crazy IMHO, I ssupect she stuffs your dcs with sweets because it keeps them quiet when out and about.

Pimms round the pool does sound lovely

I have pretty much resigned myself to after-school help only now, we just really need something even just for a couple of days a week just to make it all manageable and take some pressure off at work

I'm not surprised your children love her TBH, I think my mindees would love me a bit more if I let them spend £15 on sweets at the cinema! We have a strict sweets once a week policy (unless a treat for something outstanding) and even then they have their sweets after tea and never ever more than £1 worth - normally 50p each! Am I too mean? They don't seem to mind though!?

She sounds to me like she is taking the mick - can you not talk to her? £30 for a weekly budget (I get £30 in summer hols - some weeks spend nothing) blown in in one day is just plain bone idle.

I took my mindees to Longleat a while ago, paid for myself (have been desperate to go so seemed stupid for my boss to pay) and we paid half of the petrol costs. I am starting to get the impression that some nannies (usually the awful ones!) get paid much more than me and have a much "easier" time. Make me so !

so at pool,esp today - it is so hot here in the south!!!

guess the main thing your children DO love their nanny,and that makes a world of difference if you are a working mum

you could change her and find a dreadful one

i do think you need to make sure she understands her role as a nanny/hk eso when kids at school, and a budget of £30 weekly is plenty

i have said before, that I take my charges out to legoland/swimming etc, but i normally get a bogof offer, so oldest gets in free, and middle and youngest you dont have to pay for (yet)

mummyp I am absolutely convinced you have the clone of my old nanny - she was an older woman, no home, broken relationships back in her home country, no real future. I felt quite sorry for her and used that as an excuse to put up with loads of rubbish (culminating in a number of things that I had to spell out via the lawyers, so I won't go into here). You really really should get rid and replace - the change it will make to the whole atmosphere in the house will be worth it. Nannybliss is such a nice place to be and I am mad as a box of frogs that I put up with a miserable relationship for so long beforehand.

Does anyone else wonder if Mummypoppins nanny IS Squiffy's old nanny?

well..........she filled the car up on our petrol account on the first day of her holiday as she was going to the Lake District. It is quite clear in her contract that we do not pay for private diesel so I am just waiting to see when we get the next statement in 2 weeks when she fills it again and then we will sit down with her.

I always find this time of the year difficult.....working in a hot stuffy office to pay someone good money and massive expenses to have a nice time with my children out and about and lazing by the pool in my garden so I do have to be careful not to let my grumpy attitude colour my judgement !!

Know what I mean ???!!!

BUT I am thinking that maybe a mother's help would be more what I need and it might save me a little bit as well.

Come to think of it anyone else employ a MH on around £200 a week net ??

she filled her car with YOUR credit card

I would never dream of filling my car up/doing my shopping etc on works credit card!!

again this is stealing - you should not pay for her petrol, and if it was her holiday, then she should of have paid!!!

imananny its a petrol card which we provide for her to fill up the car for business only. It was done to stop giving her cash as she would just spend it all and then we would have to give her more for fuel!

So the use was only unauthorised to the extent that she was on holiday. Therefore if she doesnt use it again for a number of weeks thats fine but if she has continued to use it then there will be trouble. I won't know until I get the next statement on Monday.

To be honest its disgraceful I should have to keep such a tight rein on what she does with money. She is 39 FGS.

but if she was on holiday,then she should of used her own money and not yours - thats what i meant

she doed seem rather crap with money - maybe she needs to come into the real world of a lifetime in bebt - ie a mortgage and bills/council tax etc

what on earth does she spend her wages on - its not even if she really needs to pay much for weekend food, and no car exspenses such as mot/tax/insurance etc

This whoel situation would drive me stark raving mad.

However, I really sympathise with you as we stuck a bad situation with a nanny for longer than we should have. These things have a way of continuing on , and before you know it it's like six months later and you're still thinking oooh what to do, what to do.

I would also look at getting rid. This is what we were afraid of too, that we would end up with someone even worse, as one poster suggested was poss. The woman's plus points - always on time, etc - were big ones in DH's eyes. In reality, while no situation is PERFECT, we've never regretted parting with that particular nanny and I predict you will feel the same.

OMFG i cannot believe some of what i am reading!

taking the pee or what!!!

blimey the spy thats what my DH says. She always turns up and is always punctual. Only 2 days off sick in 18 months.....it could be worse.

I really dont know what to do but I expect the petrol situation will dictate. She should not have used the card when she was on holiday but DH suspects she was doing it to improve her cashflow ( which is still stealing ) ie she used us to pay for diesel then and will pay for our usuage now when she is about to be paid.

All up she is on a bloody good number. I feel very sorry for her because she will never survive in the real world . If she was a liveout nanny she would not be able to budget at all and that would be a disaster!

I wouldnt be sad to see her go as she annoys me but starting again is always a trauma!