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Holiday nannies?

41 replies

quaranta · 17/06/2008 21:45

I am going away for a week without my DH. Not very good but the ways things are due to his working away a lot. I want to take someone to help me with DS1 and 2 ( 3 and 1) .. anyone do this or done it ? Where do I look?

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juneybean · 17/06/2008 21:47

There may be someone on MN who would do it (myself included!) where would you be going etc

quaranta · 17/06/2008 21:54

Hi we're going to France to stay with family. Would be week after next eg 29 june to 4 july something like that? Are you a nanny Juneybean?

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SIOBHANB2008 · 17/06/2008 21:56

i would be interested. . im in the middle of a two year course of childcare at college and is currently a mothers help in the evenings . im crb checked and have references! interested??

hf128219 · 17/06/2008 21:58

www.holidaynanny.org

Costs about £400/£500 per week - plus the holiday cost for the nanny.

nbee84 · 17/06/2008 22:00

Should think you will get someone for less than that on here - particularly as it is college/uni holidays.

juneybean · 17/06/2008 22:31

I am a new nanny but one without a passport unfortunately

AtheneNoctua · 18/06/2008 08:29

Certainly wouldn't pay £400/£500! I would offer something more like plane ticket, food, and room plus £200 in cash (she can sort out her own tax liability for a one week job). And I would probably expect her to work an average of about 5 or 6 hours each day. I'd make sure she had at least half of the evenings free so she could have a holiday too.

catepilarr · 18/06/2008 10:41

she cant sort out her own tax but guess cash in hand is ok for a one week job. think 200 is plenty for the hours you want her to work. ive seen jobs for a 100 a week. but depends what sort of candidates you are looking for.

catepilarr · 18/06/2008 10:44

juneybean, how long does it take to get one? or can you alredy get a national id card in the uk? read about uk nat ids long time ago that they should be compulsary in about 10 yrs time. its less hassle to travel on nat id in europe.

AtheneNoctua · 18/06/2008 12:53

Why can't she sort out her own tax? On the basis that she is temporary for only one week, she can be contract and not an employee.

Not to mention that she will not be working in the UK anyway so not really sure that UK law applies.

imananny · 18/06/2008 13:01

would have thought about 300 and Whispers pay cash, no point declaring it for one week

AtheneNoctua · 18/06/2008 13:04

You are not doing anything wrong by paying cash because you are paying a contractor and not a salary. It is her responsibility to declare her taxes not yours. If she was a longer term worker and therefore an employee -- then you would need to whisper.

But, in this case, it's like paying cash for having your car washed.

imananny · 18/06/2008 13:20

but the op would still be her employer and the nanny an employee and we all know that nannies cant be se

saying that, if op did hire someone at college/uni, then unlikely that they would be over the tax threshold anyway

frannikin · 18/06/2008 13:25

I am a SE temp nanny - 1st Aid, confident European drive, exellent checkable refs. I also speak French.

I charge £300/week.

Whereabouts in France would you be staying?

frannikin · 18/06/2008 13:34

Oops forgot contact details:

francesnorris at gmail dot com

AtheneNoctua · 18/06/2008 13:35

I believe a temp nanny can be self employed. You have to be truly temp. I would think one week would count as temp even to the Inland Revenue.

Besides, they won't even be in the UK so not sure the IR would even be within their rights to query it.

AtheneNoctua · 18/06/2008 13:36

Fannikin sound like a very good candidate to me. :-)

catepilarr · 18/06/2008 13:40

not arguing but think if a uk citizen hires someone and travels abroad with him/her uk law still applies

AtheneNoctua · 18/06/2008 13:50

But that assumes that she is "hired", and hence an employee.

orangina · 18/06/2008 13:50

gumtree.com

frannikin · 18/06/2008 13:54

Catepilarr - you are correct if the contract is subject to the laws of the UK (like mine is).

Technically you could employ them under the conditions of the country you're going to but I wouldn't recommend that for France as it gets VERY complicated.

imananny · 18/06/2008 13:54

frannikin, if you are a temp nanny, therefore se how on earth do you survive on 300 a week (if you then pay tax out of that)

as i said a one off pay cash and if IR enquire, you didnt work that week and you went on holiday (to france)

frannikin · 18/06/2008 14:09

I'm a uni student so I don't do it full-time, although I'm graduating this year and going back to being an employed nanny. The way things are it's highly unlikely I'll hit the £5k in a year. I'm only SE because my mother's a tax commissioner and she said I had to. Plus I can deduct insurance etc from it apparently - but I have to work out how to do that.

AtheneNoctua · 18/06/2008 14:20

According to nannytax, even a temp nanny has to have tax paid for her. I though establishing the job as permanent was one of the criteria for classing you as an employee. But, it appears not according to nannytax.

I might learn something new here today.

Temporary:
You must pay your nanny's tax and NIC even if she is only employed by you on a temporary basis. Generally speaking a nanny does not fit HMRC criteria for self-employment status and so it is your responsibility as her employer to ensure that tax and NICs are deducted from her salary. In some cases nanny agencies put temporary nannies through their own payroll, but you need to find this out. If nanny claims to be self-employed make sure to get written confirmation from her tax office.

Anyway, as Imananny has already pointed out. If she get on a plane to France for a week and you give her some cash, no one is ever going to know.

poshtottie · 18/06/2008 14:23

I have done temp work as a nanny and am self-employed though do mostly maternity posts. I only work occassionally, approx 4 months of the year.