Nannies and childcare vouchers - can this work?

[adifferentwoman]

I'm about to employ a nanny but not sure how I can get her registered to accept childcare vouchers. Can anyone help as I think this will save me money?

from what i gather the nanny must have

some kind of childcare qualification
up to date first aid
crb
nanny insurance ( nanny pays this - about £60)

the process cost £100 - which you the employer should pay

yes it should save you money, but not all companies/employers(as in yours) do the scheme and some famillies earn too much to be able to use the scheme - so check you are eligible

the nanny must first register for an ACCOR account..they are the vouchers people. The voucher gets paid into her ACCOR account and they transfer the money into her bank account (if they are electronic vouchers) or she can deposit the vouchers herself( if paper vouchers).

You can find out more : here

ah right yes sorry to confuse you, i meant to mention that you need to be registered with ofsted, sorry about that, cant think straight today

I recruited a nanny thru KiwiOz recently and the agency have been terribly helpful about identifying course for the nanny to go on to get her OFSTED registration.

Timely thread! I have been trying hard to find out what sort of course I need to put my new nanny on in order to fulfill that part of the ofsted registration requirements.

Can I find the info anywhere? Can I buggery! I must be looking in the wrong place, or someone is hiding it very carefully.

If anyone can help I would be eternally grateful: what's the minimum qualification (and, if you're in London, any idea of who the training providers are)? Pretty please?

ICP can be done over two days with Tinies Training. www.tinieschildcare.co.uk

nannynick and jura, I think I love you. Thanks!

theres a thread about it on the other side

it gives some information

www.nannyjob.co.uk/messageboard/index.php?topic=39296.0

it sounds if it is hard to do the course if you are employed full time and if the nanny is an older one,then athough she might be qualified, she will need to do another course, as well

assume the employers would pay for the nanny to do this extra childcare core skills, if they want an aproved/registered nanny?

Thanks everyone. So, it sounds as though I should start by speaking to Ofsted? What part do I play and what should my nanny do? Does anyone know how long the process might take?

Start with making sure your nanny can meet the requirements. Then get your nanny to apply for registration.

Ofsted: Voluntary Childcare Register, How We Register

On there you will find a link to a guide, plus a link to the online application system.

It can take a couple of months from completing the online application.

See this mumsnet thread for more about how long it took me in 2007.

Thanks again. Can I just check the point about qualifications? My nanny has the NNEB, first aid and CRB checked but doesn't have the ICP - is that going to be the stumbling block then?

also there is no maximum amount of money you as an employer can have.

My last family appeared on "the rich list" but could still use the vouchers!

a differentwoman - yes it would seem so.

apparently the NNEB has been around for years and was the BEST qualification to have ( apart from norland) but now it is not enough on its own , if the nanny needs to be registered

My Ofsted registration is due for renewal soon and I am reading on another site that my NNEB may not be suitable. Ofsted however have not informed me of that... there were no issues last year.

I've been looking into ICP courses. Local councils run them, but are designed for those who are going to become childminders. Tinies wants £217.38 for a 2-day course and in my area the next course is not until September.
MNT charge £176.25 for their Common Core Distance Learning course.

I spoke with a local authority today in my area and in addition to doing this course, they also recommend doing a separate Child Protection course and repeating that 3 yearly. First Aid (12 hour course) should also be done 3 yearly.

so would any employers /MB's on here pay the extra £176 - £218 for the nanny if a qualified NNEB, for her to do the extra course needed so that they can be registered?

I think prob not, and personally I am not willing to pay £200ish for a new qualifcation, if a family wanted me to be registerd ( as I an a NNEB)

what do you all think?

Jura - I bet you are one of the exception to the rules

I have a few friends at the moment going through the registering process, and 3 of the famillies have refused to pay the £100 fee

it is the family who save the £2000 and therefore i believe that the employers should pay the cost

We went 50/50 with our nanny on the cost. We also gave her 50% of the saving as a payrise.

I would. It would still save me around £2000 a year.

What if I had to pay for the nanny's time in attending the course? That would add another ~£150 at her rate. I guess it's still worth it.

But it seems to me totally ridiculous for Ofsted not to accept the NNEB plus 20+ years experience as sufficient evidence, so I would fight tooth and nail with them first. The way I read the guide, you do not need any formal qualifications any longer so it should be fine, but I haven't tested it yet.

you def need a formal qualification now - this core skill course

agree a NNEB and many years experience seems silly to have to do another course, as Nick said, his course wont be till sept - does that mean that a family would/nt wait 3 mths for a nanny to do it?

50/50 isnt so bad if you do pass 1/2 the savings on to the nanny, but as a payrise or an extra payrise

i would expect an annual payrise each year anyway

have to say i am having better faith in you MN mums, rather than my friends RL employers at the moment