Nannies and childcare vouchers - can this work?

[adifferentwoman]

I'm about to employ a nanny but not sure how I can get her registered to accept childcare vouchers. Can anyone help as I think this will save me money?

It came to a 7% payrise iamananny... we did not give her another one that year but than I only got 2% from my employer and DH got 4% so I reckon she did ok

i would happily get my self registered if the employer paid the cost - all £300+ of it (if the NNEB) wont do

My family dont benifit from the vouchers so no point me doing it - hope to be in this job for a while,have a lovely mb/db and children so who knows in x years time when I look for a new job, the rules might be different again

7% sounds good

well as far as I can tell there is nothing to stop you from self-declaring that yes you DO possess the common core skills, which is what I'm getting my nanny (NNEB+experience only) to say. I'll let you know how it goes

is it wise to make your nanny lie?

if they check and find she hasnt got the right stuff, she might be black listed etc

i personally wouldnt lie about it, it would me that gets in trouble, and lieing about it makes nannies look unprofessional, and we get enough stick about that factor as it is!!

No, of course not lying!!

As far as I can tell from the ofsted website, there is no requirement that you must have completed any formal COURSE on the common core skills - they just say that you must HAVE the common core skills. And when you read what the skills are, I am certain that my nanny does have the skills (i checked this with her, of course).

The ofsted documents/website is not easy to understand and I may well have missed something but in any event it is up to ofsted to get back to us if they want to query her skills. I cannot believe it is their intention to basically wipe out an NNEB (albeit old) + loads of experience so I am optimistic.

correction: requirements say you must have "successfully completed training in the core skills as set out in the document ?Common Core of Skills and Knowledge for the Children?s Workforce? www.everychildmatters.gov.uk/deliveringservices/commoncore/

no BENDING the truth then

well done for finding the link!!

Update, although I doubt if anyone's interested! My nanny has just got Ofsted registered. She did an NNEB 20+ years ago and hasn't done any formal childcare courses since then (except first aid).

It was all quite weird - she ticked all the appropriate boxes on the application form but wasn't asked to submit any copies/originals of any certificates. The post office checked her passport and they arranged for her CRB but that was about it. Considering they charge £100 for registration it seems a bit shoddy. And it took 3 months. Maybe they do spot checks.

Still, I'm happy

glad it worked out ok for you meanbeans - my friend did NNEB year after me, so qual 92 and when she tried to register 3mths ago she was told she needed to do common core skills

seems that oftead have different rules

wish there was a definate law

hello there
actually your nanny does not need to be registered. I know this because as an employer my previous nanny took vouchers after I registered her with Accor and she was not registered. They issue vouchers for both registered and unregistered nannies.

Naveed

Sorry I don't understand your comment. I thought for legitimate tax saving, nanny needs to be Ofsted registered.

Excerpt from Accor website:

In order for working parents to benefit from the Tax and National Insurance exemption they must use a registered or approved childcare provider. This means you must hold either a current registration certificate with a URN reference number or an approval certificate with an expiry date and reference number.

I will be very cross if I find that you can get childcare vouchers for unregistered nannies as that was not my understanding and I never pursued my company's vouchers for my nanny who was Hungarian and did not have the required qualifications. Grr to think that I could have claimed for her all along but still don't quite believe it!

Like the name change Jura!

I have needed to photocopy my registration certificate and send it to the voucher company. Under the old scheme, I had to re-send the certificate every year, as the certificate was only valid for a year... whereas now it appears to be valid for as long as you keep paying.

In the past, there used to be Childcare Vouchers which was an employee benefit scheme administered by Lunchon Vouchers. Accor now operate Lunchon Vouchers and as far as I can see, their Childcare Vouchers division is what was the old Childcare Vouchers division.
So it is possible that there are still the older (non salary sacrifice) vouchers around - not sure though, expect if they are they will have been renamed.

slightly off topic but I am trying to submit my online registration form but the ofsted site is all different! Can anyone the online app page or am I going mad?

There are other salary sacrifice childcare voucher providers around, not just Accor.

The saving would be about £1,000 for one person on 40% tax (more likely for a nanny employer), 2,000 if both you and the other parent can get them and you're both on 40%. It's about £600-£700 for myself or dp as we're basic rate and also our pension schemes mean we already pay less NI than we would. OTOH, our pension isn't reduced by getting CVs. I haven't yet applied for vouchers as I discovered I was expecting no 2 within a few weeks of going back to work and it might affect my maternity pay.

Haha I'm sure i've read that comment for the 4th time today gloriao!!! I take it you have had a bad experience with mnt would you care to share insted of just writing the same comment on everyones thread.