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Problem with Child Ratios for 4 and 5 years olds, its all changing under EYFS

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ayla99 · 21/05/2008 19:03

P.51 B: Childminders. 2nd bullet point

"where four- and
five-year-old children only attend the childminding setting before and/or after a normal school
day, they may be classed as children over the age of five for the purposes of the adult:child ratio"

Ofsted have confirmed today to me and others by email that this means that 4 AND 5 year olds can only be counted as an over five on the days they attend a normal school day. During school holidays, training days, snow days/staff strikes or any other day the child does not attend a normal school day they revert to a younger child again for the purposes of child ratios. And this will continue throughout the school year until 31 August.

Absolutely ridiculous IMO, Ofsted have said its still at consulation stage and subject to change. So please do contact Ofsted and make your views known.

www.ofsted.gov.uk/portal/site/Internet/menuitem.ecb0bb2233bb2aee628a0d8308c08a0c/?vgnextoid=1cfc8587 fd24a010VgnVCM1000008192a8c0RCRD

This will make it really difficult for childminders to offer care for reception class children. We can't afford to hold open both an under fives and older fives place with just one fee. And parents can't be expected to pay for 2 places for one child. So we'll all need variations to cover each holiday period!

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KatyMac · 30/05/2008 22:27

lucylocketmacc - do you know more than us?.....

Berryred · 31/05/2008 00:41

grrr so the ncma thing is out of date

I had to phone as dd turns 4 end aug, and they said to write, so I did, and then they phoned me and said write again to get my ratio changed from 2 under 5 to 3 under 5 once she starts therefore telling me she would count as an over 5 all the time

crikey, I'm stuffed if not the case as someone ready for her space once she moves up and ofsted change my certifcate

KatyMac · 02/06/2008 21:11

Spoke to a top guy at OFSTED today & they are over 5's in the holidays too

But if they go F/T in January they are only over 5 from their first day at school (so not the holiday before like it is now)

lucylocketmacc · 13/06/2008 19:35

The NCMA have, at last, confirmed that there is a problem with the ratios.
www.ncma.org.uk//MainWebSite/Newslisting581a1f04.aspx?Map=B1784A3D5483266C1FA202FB5D 447ECB&NewsItemID=72&NewsGroupID=1

On Monday Ofsted staff were warned that their challenge to the DCSF is unlikely to be successful, and they should prepare themselves for more complaints from angry childminders & parents!!

Lucy
www.lucy-locket.com

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