Would any parents use a new type of childcare, this is instead of childminding or nurseries?

[KatyMac]

It's called "childcare provider on domestic premises"

What do you think?

this is too small & costs too much

Plus there is a nursery (children's centre) opening in the same village

i wish i had something constructive to say but am very sad to hear about nursery plsans being shelved, you put so much effort in! Then to be hit by this is horrible.

So the building in the link has D1 usage which you would need to move sideways into nursery rather than medical.

What capacity will the new children's centre have? And will it be offering full daycare or just sessions?

Full daycare at £40 a day (I charge £35)

Thanks Littleducks & am desperately trying to keep hold of my existing business tbh

Are your parents working (ie needing full time care)or sessional bookers?

Currently day care

Would it be worth focussing on wraparound care with just 2 of you? Or would that not be either financially or physically viable for you?

Just thinking that the ratios will obviously be better for over 5s. Is there a demand for breakfast/after school clubs in your area?

Not really - all the schools have a good provision

Just found this

A bit out of my area but very nice

Katy. That building is saying 'nursery' to me!

And it has D1 usage!

I'm confused (doesn't take much ) Why do you have staff if you are a childminder? Most childminders are individuals looking after children from home, can you not just do this? It sounds like you are running a business/nursery type set up - has it never been classed as a business before?
What happened with the nursery???

Me too

A group of childminders can (or have previously been able too) work together providing home-based care which doesn't need business use as it is childminding (have a look on my profile I think I have some lovely photos of the playroom [maybe])

The gentleman leasing me the nursery died before we signed the lease

The agent's blurb is saying that its a 'few minutes from the town centre.' If true, this has to be worth looking into?

How far is it from the village you're in at the moment? You obv have such a good local reputation, is it close enough for your existing parents to drive to?

Could/can you raise the money? Would it be worth setting up a co-op with the people you're working with at the moment (legally binded, of course) to share the mortgage? I think you were planning to do this with your previous nursery project?

It's walkable maybe 250 yrds

Need to check parking & structural stuff

Where would I put the babies?

The Co-op is set up & the co-op & community finance people would prob lend me the money - but with property I could borrow the money from just about anyone

It's about 10 miles away

SO

Main room 11.58 x 5.49 = 63.5 sqm - which is 25 under 5's

Conservatory is 3.38 x 3.28 = 11 sqm which is 3 under 2's

Can we cut some off the kitchen somehow - it seems very big

Partition screening is the way to go.

Our nursery is open plan, one large area with three doors out onto the garden. We use office type (securely!) standing screens and OFSTED are absolutely fine with this and have in fact commented that it is a good way to be able to rearrange the space to fit changing group sizes. Each area has its own access to the garden and we use wooden garden gates between the areas - cleverly fixed with magnets(Mr Bubble's brainwave) to at the end of each section of screening to metal cupboards which are used as storage.

Looking at the agent's photos, you've got a perfect room at the back to use as a babies' sleep area.

Don't forget that your staff room could be an area in the kitchen. Just needs to be a place to be away from the children.

I'm confused here, I know a husband and wife who both childmind in their home together, does that mean they can no longer be childminders? sorry to sound thick x

up to 3 working together can - but no more than 3

DO you mean the utility area? or the conservatory?

Katy. Blurb says changes are possible subject to planning permission. Internal changes are usually straightforward unless a property is historical grade listed etc. If you buy this freehold I can't see that you'd have much beyond the usual building control regs to deal with.

I would definitely recommend you use as much space as possible for babies to begin with as these will obviously be the group that grows with the nursery. When we opened we initially registered for 18 months and overs but had so many requests for baby places that we re registered for 6 and then 12 under 2s.

Most of our toddlers and some of our pre-schoolers have now been with us since they were 1.

I am so excited about this building for you, Katy.

Which room did you 'see' as the baby sleeping room?

I think I am too

I maybe able to convert the barn at a later stage - if I make a success of this

Conservatory area. This will still give you access to the garden/outside area from the front.

Hmmm

I'm see if I can see it tomorrow

Hang on,
"childcare provider on domestic premises "
DOMESTIC premises. Not business premises. Maybe under the new legislation you shouldnt have to alter the use of the house from domestic to business premises, as it is Domestic in the name. You should take some advice on this.

Actually, this is what in Norway is called a "Family Nursery". It is a nursery in a family setting of a home. Smaller number of children (max 5), smaller number of employees (one assistant). Familiebarnehage

It mentions two cloakrooms but only one (disabled) WC. Are there two WCs do you think Loos as you know need to be one for each ten children and staff loo can double up with the disabled loo.

The utility room has a butler sink, which is fab. Good for washing paint pots etc.

I would look into having a second butler sink plumbed into one of the loos for washing potties etc

You could think about using some of the large kitchen as a utility area for washing/drying machines. As long as you don't wash soiled laundry while food is being prepared this will be fine. That way you could either use the utility area as a smaller sleep area for babies and use the conservatory for something else?

2 toilets I think......one for staff (the non-disabled)

Might be able to fit additional small loo in disabled loo

Or partition off some of the kitchen & knock a hole through to the main room & maybe have the washing machines in there with a butler sink & use the utility area as the sleep area