Would any parents use a new type of childcare, this is instead of childminding or nurseries?

[KatyMac]

It's called "childcare provider on domestic premises"

What do you think?

So it's the wording of how you advertise and describe yourself that's the issue?

You're no longer technically a childminder but a childcare provider?

OFSTED are making us a childcare provider - which is classed as a business

& I cannot run a business out of my house

SEA - good idea - can we get it up & running before 31st August

Katy. Is it worth reapplying to the council for a change of usage to business?

I have - but they refused

I was going to run a nursery from home

There isn't enough parking, it's a quiet cul-de-sac and the neighbours complained

yes but the fact that you are in norfolk and i'm in hertfordshire may cause a problem

i'd just do it katy stuff ofsted - you know more than they do anyway

There are a lot of nurseries run from residential houses/areas around here.

If you can get your neighbours onside, and if they are already used to you working as a CM from home- would they oppose a planning application?

So far my perceived problems are

? Explaining to parents about what this ?new? childcare is
? Getting permission from our local council to allow us to work in our existing premises
? Understanding how the EYFS applies to us
? School runs?
? Minimum of 2 staff at all times
? Currently using NCMA contracts ? what do we use now
? Currently a Quality Assured Kitemark is this still in effect ? can we still be in the childminding network?
? Currently supported by Childminding Matters & NCMA ? will this continue?
? Perfectly viable business ? don?t muck it around
? How do I advertise ?childcare provider on domestic premises? ? it?s not even a decent name
? Do we comply with Daycare or childminding standards?

What is ME?

Can you downsize to remain a childminder? Take fewer kids and therefore require less staff?

Ah, Posts X.

But if you weren't planning to substantially increase the numbers of children, what difference would it make to the drop-off/pick-up traffic you already have?

Or have they been complaining about that as you stand at the moment?

Yes they would Bubble - a letter of complaint went in about 2 months ago - because of parking problems

ME (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) is a debilitatig condition somewhat like glandular fever but longer lasting/permanent

Well I could downsize but with what I & 2 staff could manage it wouldn't be economically viable

ME is also known as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.

OFSTED are rubbish. I don't understand how it's any different to one person being a registered childminder and having 3 assistants on different days of the week.

And I think it's a lovely idea - why are the Council so against it?

I imagine you'll now have to comply with daycare rather than CM standards.

I am so sorry to hear this, KM. All of the govts nonsense about provision of quality childcare, huh?

Can you get a piece in your local paper?

Can you find a venue locally? Scout hall etc that you can use until 6pm. I say 6pm as most scout/cub groups don't start until later than that in the evenings and I have seen a very good local nursery that manages to work very well in this situation. As they don't have sole use of the premises (although they do when the children are there) they need to use boards for displays etc which can be taken down and stored with their tables and chairs at the end of the day. They have steps and child loo seats to fit into the adult sized cubicles and steps up to the washand basins. They also have locks on their fridge/freezer so that they can be sure that food is not tampered with and is stored at safe temperatures.

Not ideal, but it seems to work for them

But we are childminding

Keep your chin up, Katy.

There must be a way round this.

Thanks Bubble - I'm of to re-read EYFS to see how much we will have to change

Why not try dropping Mumsnets friend caitlin Moran an email and see if she can bring this to the publics attention? Link her all these threads you have going. As someone said on another post, OFSTED don't care about the children being looked after. All they care about is finding out other ways to make the jobs done by anyone who looks after children, but in particular childminders, harder and harder every day.

I'm sure they employ people who sit aorund discussing "what rule can we make up today that will make life harder for childmidners"

The main legal-type stuff

I need 2 toilets for the children
I need an NVQ qualified member of staff at all times
I need 2 people at all times (even if I only have 1 child)
The kitchen & downstairs loo can't be used by DH & DD as it must be for sole use
I need a staff room
I need a separate baby room

This cannot happen - irrespective of planning/local council etc I cannot create space or additional staff members

being a bit thick here but aren't all cms gona be childcare providers on domestic premis? and if so what will childminders be.

Sorry, just come in on this and am bit lost.

ooops. just read it again. i get it. its to do with how many working from house. blody ofsted.

Childminders will still be childminders

Childminders who work with other childminders won't

Just checking in to see how you are this evening, Katy.

I know you want to continue to be a CM. But would it be worth looking into renting a scout/church hall Monday to Friday to run a small nursery during the day? If a suitable one exists in your area?

Don't worry about child-sized loos and basins as this can be got around by using steps and child loo seats and a fridge/freezer lock would solve any EH issues. As long as you can have sole use during your hours OFSTED would be OK with this. Are all of your staff assistants at present? Would it be financially viable to employ an NVQ3/4 to balance out your untrained staff?

Hope you're feeling more positive today, anyway.

There really aren't any suitable premises around here

I have had an enquiry (from Rainbows) to use my nursery if it had ever been built

We have had a terrible day tbh

I have 4 qualified staff, 5 childminders, 3 assistants