Childcare posted ds biting to all parents

[Nov191919]

Hi

My sons going through a tricky time, not sleeping etc and v cranky as a result. He's 3 1/2 and yesterday bit another kid at childcare. The childcare posted the incident report to the general group with my sons name.

Any advice about what to do here?

At 3 and 1/2 the other children will be naming your son to their parents anyway.

I never understood why nursery staff wouldn't tell me who had bit my daughter when she could tell me herself so i knew anyway, and chances are your son has bitten more than one child

@stressedespresso

Of course the behaviour should be addressed as a priority.

But that doesn't take away from the fact that a Gdpr breach has taken place and for some families this could have devastating consequences if their location is identified.

For most families a name being put out there won't cause much more than mild embarrassment, but for others it could be dangerous. Either way, it's unacceptable practice.

Because it is none of your business which child did it.

What is your business is how the incident is dealt with and how your child is protected and cared for in setting going forward. You don't need a name for this.

At age 3 they are navigating their way through life and development and this stuff happens. If you choose a nursery or a childminder, you will have to accept that other children from all walks of life and backgrounds will also be there. Some children hit or bite and as long as the provider is doing everything in their power to address and deal with these incidents effectively that's what matters.

It was posted to the general group so I was meaning what the report should have looked like to the other parent only. The whole group didn’t need the report.

Her own son’s report should have said her child has bitten another child and specified where etc.

All bites that break the skin need medical attention. From any animal of any age. Its the infection risk.
Sincerely, someone who had major surgery, spent weeks in hospital and nearly lost a finger and got sepsis from an untreated minor bite wound.

All parents didn't need informing that your child has bitten someone. Just you and the other child's parent.

But if there is a child that is regularly harming other children I do think other parents should.be informed that the teachers and parents are "on it". I've had to enquire about a specific child at nursery who my son kept saying is hitting him. The kid has learning disabilities and they have things in place to manage it and are working with the parents. OK then. If it was more serious injuries I'd be more concerned but I'm OK teaching my son that some children have a harder time learning how to be kind and keep their hands to themselves and that he should give this child space if he's not being kind and talk to a teacher. Without knowing about the kid I can't advise DS how to handle it.

I don't think there was anything wrong with the report, they just sent it to the wrong group - the whole room instead of just OP. The reports were presumably fine as they'll be a standard form, the issue is who it was sent to.

Presumably the other parents also got the correct report for their child that didn't name OP's child but it was sent to the correct people so OP and the rest of the parents haven't seen it (as is correct).

It's worrying that you work in a children's home with such a dogmatic, unsympathetic and old fashioned approach to children

It would be very unusual for a children’s home to have preschoolers!

Anyone remember the vital 'Charlie bit me' YouTube clip from years ago. I wonder if the parents took the bitten child to A and E, I doubt it.

As others have said this is a breach of data protection legislation.

Screen shot it OP

Then report it.

The childcare provider should also report it, they have 72 hours.

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/report-a-breach/

Consider calling the police.

The police? Seriously. The police? What on earth for.

But do you go to A&E for a tetanus jab and antibiotics

Going off topic but my daughter was bitten by a prolific biter at preschool. It broke the skin and 111 sent me to A&E where it was properly cleaned and she was put on a course of antibiotics. They said you should always go to A&E if a bite breaks the skin.

@CelesteCunningham yes. It is a criminal act.

It's not clear from your post whether this was an accident on their part, or deliberate? My response would be different if they just accidentally clicked "share to all" or whatever, vs thinking "everyone must know about this child".

I assume it's an accident as generally I think nurseries don't like to tell the parents who has bitten their child.

Even if its "just" a "minor" GDPR breech... the nursery need to look what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again.
Next time it could be personal information about a parent, or medical details about a child, or photos of a child that cannot be used publicly. Its all important.

My DD told me exactly who was scratching her and the other children at nursery. We ALL knew. The parents of that child knew. Doesnt mean the nursery staff could discuss it with us.

This would be considered a data breach in my school. I'd complain and chase up that it's been reported as a data breach.

Complain tp the nursery, report the breach and get written confirmation that they’ve also reported the breach. It’s immaterial if the other children would have told their parents about the biting - the nursery should not be sharing data appropriately and only with the parents/carers of the child. If they take a lax approach then there’s a potential for all sorts of inappropriate information to be shared.

Have they apologised for the breach yet OP?

This isn't just some fun internet thread, it's OP's real life. Do you really think it will help matters if she goes to the police about her child's nursery? Do you think that's helpful advice?

I would complain about the breech because if they are this lax who knows what information they could "share all" on "accidentally" some children's home lives are not good

Keep dealing with the biting as a family you will get there

I said 'consider'.

What would you say if the OP's child had been assaulted?

Depending on who put the information out there the nursery may involve the police.

An NHS worker who looked at medical information of 14 people she knew was fined £1000. That data was not disclosed to anyone but the employee, but they acted illegally and got a conviction.

This is a serious breach.

You're being ridiculous. A children's home is a completely different situation because you'd need to cover yourselves. The NHS website says you only need to go to A and E if:

• the wound is large or deep
• you were bitten on your face or head
• you cannot stop the bleeding

and you only need to phone 111 if

• you think there may still be objects like teeth, hair or dirt in the wound
• the bite is hot or swollen (it may also be painful, red or darker than the surrounding skin)
• you have a high temperature
• fluid is leaking from the bite
• the bite smells unpleasant
• you were bitten on your hands or feet
• you were bitten by a person

I'm assuming the report was supposed to just be sent to you OP and instead has been sent to the group. It could affect your child if other parents were funny about it and told their kids not to play with yours so IMO it should be reported to the ICO. Have you been contacted about it? Has it been taken down? Have they said what they are going to put in place to ensure it doesn't happen again?
If not contact them and ask them. It's a GDPR breach of a child's private information and that is taken seriously even if other people are just writing it off as a little human error. That is not acceptable with kids private info, no more than a hospital sharing a child's information.

The OP's child hasn't been assaulted. Nothing of that seriousness has taken place.

An NHS worker purposefully looking at the private data of 14 people they know is orders of magnitude more serious than the nursery accidentally setting the wrong permissions for a single incident report.

All this needs is for them to take the post down and apologise (likely both these steps were already taken yesterday) and remind staff to be more careful.

Breaches of this nature happen day in day out due to human nature.

I’d be fuming about this. We went through about a month of my son buying out of sensory needs - thankfully it stopped and he never bit a child. If he had have done I’d have been mortified but to name a 3 year old is completely unacceptable. There are some stupid parents, many in this thread it appears, who would carry this around with them for years.

Appalling they named and shamed. Parents are judgemental and this could impact on your dc friendships/party invites etc.

Definitely complain and ask the name be removed.

My ds has Sen and has 1:1 support. I remember sitting in the hall for a welcome presentation and hearing a group of parents saying they hoped my child isn't in their child's class. It's heartbreaking to hear. Worst is I spoke to school as I was unaware of any behaviour issues and they were as confused as me. Had a full year of children telling me my son was naughty and being ostracised. A couple of years later a random parent approached me and apologised she had started the conversations due to her child being bullied. But the bully was a different child with the same name.