Left with bad headache after very naughty child today!!!!Advice please

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Hi just had a real bad 2 days with a 10 year old minded child, it started yesterday when the child pushed another 4 year old over after the 4 year old had pushed her. I told them both to behave and come and finish making their mothers day cards. Then the 10 year old just started shouting and slammed my living room door and ran out of the house. I went after her and she came back in, still shouting so i told her to calm down and stop shouting as it was scaring the other children. I telephoned her mum and explained situation and said maybe better if shes picks her up ealier today. But mum did not arrive till 7 pm an hour later than normal!!When mum did arrive the daughter ran out of my house shouting abuse at her mum down the street. Today the girl arrived at my house as normal and i thought i wont mention anything, so asked what she would like to eat and she put her fingers in her ears. Then one of the toddlers took a little trike that was next to the girl and she started shouting again and ran out and locked herself in the bathroom, where she is now waiting for mum. Sorry its long just wondered if anyone had any advice!!! Thank you

give them your notice!

Sack her! Goodness, that's intolerable!

what did mum say when she arrived an hour late

sounds like the 10 year old is bored senseless and got a cobb-on about being childminded

I'd give them notice tbh .. it odesn't sound safe for little ones

oh and take paracetomal

and ibuprofen for that matter!

(make sure that your door is locked so that the older child can't escape again)

Have a nice cup of tea, then you need to think about filling in your incident book and talking to parents about this.

House rules - do you have written house rules?
That are up on the wall/noticeboard?

HTH

Thanks for advice, mums just been now and the daughter kicked her and ran out again.My husband who works upstairs came running down to see what the noise was all about and the mum was standing there saying well if the 4 year says sorry my daughter might be ok!!!!

Thats terrible behaviour from a 10 year old! I think I would give her 0 days notice! To arrive 1 hour late too, I would charge her extra £4 per hour fine and then she won't do it again.

I would be ashamed if my 5 yr old did that to a cm (he's lucky I am his cm and he is not treated any different from the other mindee.

I know hormones are kicking in (in more ways than one by the sound) but to push a 4 yr old over is petty. She sounds as though she needs a clip around the ear - whoops sorry OFSTED I know we cannot do that to some of these little darlings (sounding sarky). My 14 yr old gets grounded if she speaks to me that way. I would sack her and let cm friends know too.

I think that's your problem right there

get rid of her

Good god. No wonder you have a headache. And can't actually believe the mother.

I would give notice. It is not fair on you or the other mindees to have behaviour like that.

at the mother unless her dd has some SN that she has chosen not to divulge to you which would affect her behaviour so much.

Yes great advice thanks, feel really bad for the other children as they were all having good fun till this happened.The dad has now just called me and said there must be a reason why shes being like this and that maybe it is the other childrens fault!!! I have told him what happenend and he started getting louder down the phone sayings its because i did not make the 4 year old appoligise to his daughter. HEADACHE

Oh, yes, I think I would be giving notice myself. A four year olds behaviour isn't comparable to a 10 year old who should know better. They are unreasonable people, and you are better off rid.

Go take some paracetamol and wine down you! Clearly not together

Sympathy

Does she have learning difficulties?

The wine sounds a good option!!!

After latest performance - give notice

It just gets worse. No wonder the child behaves in that way with examples like that.

Notice should be given ASAP!!

Forget that! Just read subsequent posts, get rid, no notice, get lost!

Did you like the way I was sympathetic to the child for a while there? None of you considered that there was a deeper problem, you just wrote her off immediately!

I think there are 2 possible options IMHO

a) girl has autistic type tendencies and cannot cope without being apologiesd to as obviously hitting back was "fair" in her eyes

b) girl is hormonal and used to getting her own way and parents do not know how to deal with or indulge her all the time

however I would give notice!

NO shes fine looked after her for over a year now.Just very spoiled if does not get her own way and the parents back her every time.Its really getting to me now, having to tip toe arond her.

When i called the mum she said oh try and keep the other children away from her!!!!!!

absolutely give notice if her parents have that attitude then you are not going to make progress are you.

What have I missed? Why isn't she in school if she's 10?

Oh for godness sakes! How can the parents blame the 4 year olds!!! I have had lots of 10 year olds and whilst I have had to 'have a word' with parents and child about their behaviour, I have never encountered a child & parent that doesn't comply! Get rid - quick smart!