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Paid childcare

Discuss everything related to paid childcare here, including childminders, nannies, nurseries and au pairs.

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just need to moan

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franyfroo · 04/02/2008 10:21

why do parents send their children to me when they are very obviously unwell. I have just got over that flu bug, had it since xmas (never felt sooooo ill) and now they are sending me more sicky children. I know you cant avoid colds but when the children just cry all day, its not fair to the other children.

why do parents just feel they can pay me when they like. I even charge 20 for late ones but they still pay late.

am fed up......but feel bit better after my rant.

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franyfroo · 04/02/2008 12:13

just to clarify. I was just moaning, i wont send a child home if he only has a cold. however..........if they have a temp, are crying constantly etc, then i will try calpol (with permission,of course) and if it has no effect, then i would call parent. if a child is ill (still the same with my teenagers actually) they want mum (even more than dad alot of the time) and they want lots and lots of cuddles. cms work alone most of the time, and if my child was being neglected because of a sick child crying and wanting constant attention i would be cross.

i was just moaning..........i did not mention names so i really dont see the problem. I am sorry if i have upset anyone!

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crace · 04/02/2008 12:14

Franny, exactly right - I would be furious as a parent too and this is likely the case when there is a very ill child in the setting. No need to apologise!

Ineedaholiday · 04/02/2008 12:29

I was just having the same moan as frannyfroo an hour ago with some friends. One is another cm and the other 2 own/ work at diff nurseries.
Im sending everyone who has this problem a >.
My sickness policy says "if your child is too sick to go to school/ nursery then they are too sick to come to me." The Care Commission told me that I should change it as it might offend service users.
I havent changed it cos it doesnt work and they still send their children doped up on calpol and full of green snot.

MaureenMLove · 04/02/2008 12:37

Hi frany. I too feel your pain and agree with your last post and with Craces. So, have you phoned the parents to collect yet?

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franyfroo · 04/02/2008 13:40

nop.havent phoned, he sleeping now. will see what happens later.

thanks for all your nice coments xx

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ROSEgarden · 04/02/2008 15:59

oh here it goes again...if a child is ill and needs to rest has temp being sick diarhea etc etc they must stay home regardless of nursery or cm, a cm doesnt only accept perfectly healthy children, but if your poorly child makes us poorly, we then have to close, we are one person, not a whole nursry of poeple, meaning that child and everyother child gets turned away, childminder loses money and parents then HAVE to find alternative care.

Childminderss are on the whole much more flexible than nurseries but get so much crap thrown at us, no wonder we're seen as the under dog, no proffesional staus and told we are being 'awkward' if we say we dont want to wet nurse a sick child!

isthisunusual · 04/02/2008 16:08

Is the comment by crace meaning that I feel guilty for sending my child to nursery rather than a CM? Or that he gets send anywhere at all?

FWIW I understand what the OP was saying about the difference between colds/being really unwell. Unfortunately though as also said its not always easy to tell first thing in the morning. I'm sure the parents would want to be informed if their child really wasn't well enough to be there - I would.

crace · 04/02/2008 16:13

isitunusual - nope, nothing of the sort and not directed at you

crace · 04/02/2008 16:14

Actually, I didn't see you on the thread before this so not sure what you are talking about. And of course, meant to be isthisunusual ooops

southernbelle77 · 04/02/2008 16:22

The nursery my dd used go to certainly would not have taken her if she was more ill than just having a cold or teething. They were VERY strict about it as it affects the other children and all the staff as well.
As a cm, I do take the children if they have colds, but as many of the other have said, it is not fair on the child who is ill and probably only wants their mum/dad and it is not unfair on the other mindees who can then in turn become ill, and it is also not fair on me as if I get ill then I cannot work and my family may well get ill too. It can affect a lot of people.

pol27 · 04/02/2008 17:19

Just to clarify I was NOT blaming the child who gave my DS a cold for his croup, just stating that this child was too ill to be going out and about (it was actually a family members kiddo) and so we all got the cold, DD first then DP, me and DS last ~ so actually maybe I was the culprit!

A snotty nose is fine IMO. A snotty nose and feeling miserable, crying, temp etc... is not ok. They should be at home. Other mindees would of still expected to go out and about and so it either wouldn't be fair on the ill mindee or the well mindee's (or me for that matter).

Glad I don't have these battles anymore. Quit minding and now work out of hours to earn a wage, although winning the lottery would be much more gratefuly received

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 04/02/2008 18:42

Fact is, snot is infectious.. you can catch a really nasty cold from a child who is at the tail end of their cold but is still snot-spreading. In other words a purely snotty child is not necessarily less infectious than a child too ill to be out.

nannyL · 04/02/2008 18:50

if you are so infectious at the end of a cold how come they actaulyl allow you give blood...

and if they have anyodubt at all they dont let you give blood, they are extra cautiosue about anything!

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franyfroo · 04/02/2008 19:30

rang parent and txt several times. left messages. she turned up normal time and didnt mention my calls.

hey ho

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MaureenMLove · 04/02/2008 19:33

OMG! You rang and txt for child to be collected?

isthisunusual · 04/02/2008 19:42

Frany how sad. Crace, wasn'ton this thread.Just thought the comment sounded a bit 'off' didn't quite get what you meant! But obviously no ill meaning behind it so no worries!

vInTaGeVioLeT · 04/02/2008 21:55

frannyfroo said why do parents send a child when it is obviously unwell - she didn't say keep them at home if they have a cold

vInTaGeVioLeT · 04/02/2008 22:03

my bug bear would be
"why send me a child who is so tired that they just wan't to curl up and go to sleep"

this is very hard when you have school runs & activities planned for the other mindee's

GGGGGRRRRRRRRRR. . . .

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 04/02/2008 22:57

You are infectious if you are actively producing lots of snot NannyL, which children often seem to do for weeks on end, whereas adults generally do not.

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franyfroo · 05/02/2008 10:02

well, he turned up snotty and hot again. but they have to go to work today.

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MaureenMLove · 05/02/2008 10:09

But Franny, that's not your problem! Can you just tell me, did you call them yesterday to collect and they ignored your calls & txt messages?

crace · 05/02/2008 10:10

No Frany it's not your problem, they have to stay home in this case, you did it yesterday. I would call them back, poor wee thing

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franyfroo · 05/02/2008 10:11

left answa phone mesge and txt asking them to call as he really not well and i thought they should pick up.

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franyfroo · 05/02/2008 10:13

i have had this before with parents years ago. I will send (yet another) reminder to everyone about sickness. They will on the hole ignore it but it makes me feel better lol.

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MaureenMLove · 05/02/2008 10:17

Thing is, you made a rod for your own back, tbh. When they arrived yesterday, you said that they didn't mention it and neither did you. Phone them now and TELL them unless they collect within the hour, you will be phoning your local cm advisor. It really is not on and they are taking the piss, if they are ignoring your calls and you hve only got yourself to blame if you didn't mention it when they collected last night. You are being walked all over. They are are taking you for a fool! It stops now!

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