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termination of childminding contract?

27 replies

nonna · 13/01/2008 13:46

i have been bullied by the parents
not respect me at all,or respect my house,my time,my children need,my other minde need. i did followed they rottien,advice what ever is what.did all the papper work very good,did thire child daily diary and that with incloud arriving andleft,feeding time and amount,changing nappy and time,sleeping time activities.outing ,time .concern and advice,then they signed on it daily.
changing thire time daily on the time they arrive or collect most of the time without any note or phon they just droop in as they think my home is a shop then i give them nots that i need 3 days inadvance for any chang if u don,t want to pay for the time u allraidy booked .

then they need to do termination of childminding contract with out paying the 4 weeks notice

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dmo · 13/01/2008 14:10

poor you sounds like you have had a hard time

couldnt read your post well sorry

nonna · 13/01/2008 14:22

yes very very hard time ineed some help and support befor monday morning.

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paros · 13/01/2008 14:45

not respect me at all
not respect my house
not respect mt time
not respect my children needs
not respect my mindes needs
I followed their rotton advice whatever it was
I did all the paper work very well
I did their child daily diary
It included what time they arrived and left,feeding time and amount the child ate,nappy changes and what time it was,sleeping times and for how long,where we went on outings,any concerns there were.
They signed the diary daily.
But they change the time they arrived and collect without any notice or a phone call.They just drop into my home as though its a shop.
Then I gave them notice that I need three days in advance for any change of times.
Then they need to do a termination of childminding contract without paying 4 weeks notice .
Is that right .
Poor you sounds like you have had a really bad time . I am sure someone on here can help you .

nonna · 13/01/2008 14:47

thank u paros very much

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CarGirl · 13/01/2008 14:53

If it is in your contract that they signed then they have to pay you 4 weeks notice if not you could pursue it through the small claims court.

nonna · 13/01/2008 15:08

i know but iam afraid that they could think to make any not true complans to ofsted as they were blams me for their baby crying at 10 pm at thire home they though that becous of my fult he is 3 month
then blamed me becous i let the baby waer a baby gloves all the days when i found his nail tall and sharp until they cut his nail to avoid hurting him self as he did with me.
they ask me on friday to not go out becous it was very cold and windy knowing that i must go to school every day to collect and dropand i did go out as they signed the permision of the daily outing.
they did that evey day no thanks just blames

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CarGirl · 13/01/2008 15:10

I think you are well shot of them, this leaves you free to advertise for new children.

I hope you find some more mindees very soon and cope financially in the mean time.

lulumama · 13/01/2008 15:11

sounds like you would be better off without having them as clients, if they do not respect you and blame their baby crying at home, on you !

a 3 month old baby will cry at night, usually as they need feeding !

i would terminate the contract, you might have to lose the money, but at least you would not have to put up with the terrible way they treat you.

plenty of other clients out there

MaureenMLove · 13/01/2008 15:17

How much money are we talking about here? You don't need to tell me exactly, just how much not having it would affect you. Do you have an NCMA contract?, if so they can help you to claim the money that is rightfully yours. One more question! Are they in breach of the contract they signed and you signed?

nonna · 13/01/2008 15:17

i think they need to do a termination of childminding contract becouse on friday the baby was sleeping so much in the morning so maybe he could,t sleep at night.they didn.t give any advice on sleeping routen.

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lulumama · 13/01/2008 15:20

3 month old babies sleep in the day, they have to ! they are not neccesarily going to sleep all night. many don;t sleep through. a nap in the day won;t make a difference IME/ IMO

you cannot keep a 3 month old awake all day. they would be over tired and even harder to settle at night

also, with regards to a routine, at 3 months old, that is almost impossible. babies change so much so quickly, that what happens at 3 months, might not be happening at 4 months

sounds like the parents do not actually understand how babies function.

nonna · 13/01/2008 15:26

yes i use ncma contract ,i newly registered cm i worked for them ror just5 days
iwas try to give them very good flexabilty and quality.as i need to have a good rate on my 1st inispiction. aneed from them about 380 pounds as in contract for a 23 hours aweek wether they hold all the day for them and just need to chrgh me by evry 15 min i did work not they booked

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KatyMac · 13/01/2008 15:28

Normally in the first 4 weeks (or other specified period) there is a settling in period - during this time there needs to be no notice given by either side

It's on the 1st page of the NCMA contract

nonna · 13/01/2008 15:30

yes i use ncma contract ,i newly registered cm i worked for them ror just 5 days
i was try to give them very good flexabilty and quality.as i need to have a good rate on my 1st inispiction. i need from them about 380 pounds as in contract for a 23 hours aweek wether they hold all the day for them and just need to charg me by evry 15 min i did work not they booked

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nonna · 13/01/2008 15:35

we didnot fill that part as they give me a retainer for 5 weeks befor and they know that they can come any time in those 5 weeks.
settling in period they didnot need it or asked about it,

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MaureenMLove · 13/01/2008 15:40

I thik maybe you should just ark this one up to experience then, tbh. Let them go and move on. Have a look at the NCMA contract properly and make sure in future you fill it all in properly. It doesn't matter how they want to do things, when it comes to the business side of things. This is your business, your rules!

ROSEgarden · 13/01/2008 20:56

i think you need to make your policies clear to them for example "these are the hours you are contracted too, if you do not use them, this doesnt mean you dont pay, you pay for your contracted hours", "your day involves trips to school, if any child is unwell and unable to come along on these mandatory trips, you must keep your child at home, full fees still apply as i am still available", "parental routines will be adheared too were possible but in most cases and especially in the case of babies and small children, days/sleep routines and feeding times can vary, as i also have other children in my care, we will stick to the preffered routine as much as possible, but each aprent must uinderstand thier child cannot recieve my sole, undivided attention"..and so on..these need to be made clear and re iterated if needed...
this parent needs to be told what you do and what you want, you are not responsable for thier child when they leave your care, you *CANNOT8 keep a 3month old baby awake all day!..good lcuk

nonna · 18/01/2008 14:14

add this to the other thread( I have been subject to bulling, humiliation, and threatening by parents)

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TEAM · 25/02/2010 02:15

Help ive had a parenT give me notice she told me she was dropping her hours at work and her family would take care of the children.I have found out that what she has been saying is all lies and that she is going back with her previous childminder that im not bothered about its the fact she has been gossiping about me and telling the other minder she does not get on with me i am really confused as to why she is telling lies.

ayla99 · 25/02/2010 08:08

TEAM, I had something similar, at the time I was upset that the parent had lied to me when there was absolutely no need. I thought they were underhand and deceitful, so I told myself it was a good job really they weren't staying - I don't want to work with people like that! And they did me a favour really, have worked with some really nice families since

NONNA try phoning NCMA, as you've used their contract they should be able to advise you on what you're entitled to and perhaps help you write a letter to the parents?

TEAM · 26/02/2010 04:05

Hi Nonna thanks i called the mother in and discussed confidentiality with her.As she has been caught out she sent me numerous tex messages and became nasty trying to blame me im glad she has gone dont want people like that around me.Think ill put this one down to experience. X smile

TEAM · 26/02/2010 04:10

Thanks ayla99 dont understand why people have to be underhand and nasty its not a problem to me that she terminated its the fact she lied and was spreading gossip.Glad im shut of her.x .

Mum2Luke · 26/02/2010 15:52

Have I got a right to have 2 weeks' money/notice even though the father terminated the contract?

I have a signed NCMA contract stating that parents should give at least 2 week's notice of quitting. I have had allegations of me shouting and even verbally abusing at the children (which I did not and have never done).

I have had to put up with a year of these children misbehaving, being dis-respectful of my house and I felt not able to speak to their parents as it was always chaos when I dropped them off sometimes. The eldest child (nearly 11) was always stirring up trouble and I had it on good authority from their neighbours that they were very badly behaved too. He text me last week (Sunday and also Valentines Day) to ask to come around but I was going out for a meal and I said he had to come on the Monday morning but sent me an email with the allegations.

This has upset me, I worked very hard for little or no appreciation whatsoever and feel I've been kicked in the teeth as I've no income now. What are my rights? It seems us childminders have to put up with their children's bad behaviour because some parents persistently give them presents.

Tanith · 26/02/2010 21:23

Yes, you do have the right to be paid for whatever notice period is in your contract. I had a similar problem last year. The father terminated the contract with immediate effect and claimed it was because I'd shouted at his family or some such nonsense. He also made unspecified allegations.

Thing was, he only made them after he'd terminated the contract and I told him he had to pay notice. Believe me, OFSTED are well used to this kind of malicious complaint in order to get out of paying the childminder.

Put the allegations in writing as a complaint and put down your side of the story as factually and unemotionally as you can. If you're using NCMA contracts, give the NCMA a ring and they'll give you legal advice. I've been told that the NCMA contracts are water-tight, so don't worry that they won't hold up legally.

It sounds like he's just trying to bully you so that you'll back down on the notice period.

Mum2Luke · 01/03/2010 11:57

They claim I verbally abused their children when I did no such thing, I might have told them off for running off continually and being an absolute nightmare in my care.

I have the letter that they sent me after me sending a letter explaining the reasons I had to shout after asking them 3 or 4 + times to do something, for not fighting in my car or house, for not going upstairs in my bedrooms etc and they refute this saying I made them up to suit me?

They said that Luke used to go into one of their boy's rooms but only because Luke was invited into it and it was in the early days when things were ok but in the last year he's not wanted to go into the house or have anything to do with them when I dropped them off. Luke told me on a couple of occasions that the eldest called me 'bitch' but he'll only deny it.

Should I still go for my money they owe me?

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