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Nannies (or nanny employers can answer) are you still working for non key workers?

37 replies

Hugglespuffed · 26/03/2020 08:21

I'm interested to see how many nannies are still going in to work at the moment to non key workers?

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8by8 · 26/03/2020 08:30

Our nanny still comes to us. We read the rules carefully - her job absolutely cannot be done from home, so she can legitimately travel in. To protect her and us we’re paying for her to get taxis to and from work rather than needing to use the tube.

Hugglespuffed · 26/03/2020 08:46

Thanks for replying :) do you know if she works for any other families too or are you her only family?

I'm trying to work out what to do for my families for the best

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8by8 · 26/03/2020 08:48

She’s full time with us and is otherwise just staying home.

If you work for a few families obv there’s more of an infection risk.

Zhx3 · 26/03/2020 08:48

Our nanny hasn't been coming for a couple of weeks now. I'm wfh at the moment and my dc are school age so we muddle through.

MolyHolyGuacamole · 26/03/2020 09:27

It's funny that parents are only following the advice about not being able to work from home but happily ignoring the ability to social distance should you HAVE to go in. How are nannies changing your baby and getting them dressed while keeping their distance?

Nannies (or nanny employers can answer) are you still working for non key workers?
LottieBees19 · 26/03/2020 09:31

Yes still working.
My nanny bosses are not key workers.
One is not even working at home but going for long bike rides and runs.
One child is a baby so close contact.

MolyHolyGuacamole · 26/03/2020 09:47

@LottieBees19 I've heard of nannies being forced in while parents sun in the garden. People really showing their true colours now.

Hugglespuffed · 26/03/2020 09:57

Thanks for all the responses so far.

@LottieBees19 that is shocking!

I feel lucky to work for some great people..

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MissyEllyPants · 26/03/2020 12:00

8by8, she can legitimately travel in, but she won't be able to observe the 2 metre rule. I'm not saying she shouldn't work, that's down to both of you. Only you know whether you absolutely have to have her there.
As for these arseholes who are sunbathing-nannies, when this is all over, get the hell out!

AnnieAnt · 26/03/2020 12:04

I've told our nanny not to come in - she would only be going from hers to ours but neither of us are key workers so am following the spirit of the guidance to limit any spread.

I can't see how any nanny can work and observe social distancing - and as I understand the guidance, this is a key requirement.

Still paying her and hope she's back before too long - have four DC to co-ordinate including one preschooler so no hope of working again until she does (fortunately I work term time only but am self-employed).

nannynick · 26/03/2020 12:06

Not working for non-keyworkers.
Am working for a family where both parents are keyworkers.
Have had all working hours changed as parents shifts keep changing. Flexibility is key at this time so that keyworkers can do their assigned duties and fit as well as possible with their colleagues.

Sammymommy · 26/03/2020 12:28

Not working here (still paid), they are non key workers.

Honestly, I wouldn't take a taxi if they asked me to come, that is a sure way to catch Covid19. I would walk (which would be almost 2 hours each way) or take the bus.

SirBragalot · 26/03/2020 12:35

Yep, still going to work every day. Parents wfh. Most parents are unlikely to offer to the nanny to stay at home for a couple of weeks while paying her a full salary.

WellTidy · 26/03/2020 12:40

Our nanny isn’t working. Neither DH nor I are key workers do we told her not to come. We are both working from home and taking it in turns to work and look after the children. Between 6am and 11pm, one of us is working. Paying her in full and hoping that we can claim the 80% for furlough. Even if we can’t, we will still pay her in full for the next few weeks and then reassess.

DisappointingAvocado · 27/03/2020 04:26

Nanny is not working. I'm on maternity leave so we don't need her. Paying 80% but if we are able to claim this back will top up to 100%.

Mamagin · 27/03/2020 04:57

I work 2 days a week, and work toddler goes to nursery 2 days a week. One parent is a key worker, other working from home.
Nursery have given option of increasing days for key workers, and I was given the option of carrying on as usual, or staying at home as toddler will possibly catch virus at nursery. I offered to work extra hours so toddler could stay safe at home and this was refused as the nursery had to be paid in any case, and they wanted to keep the place.
As far as I know, I'm not being paid, (only paid for hours I work) although they are wanting me to go back afterwards.

eurochick · 27/03/2020 05:06

Our nanny is still coming at the moment. We made sure she felt comfortable - we wouldn't force her and had a long chat after Boris's big announcement. She also took advice on whether she could continue to work and the answer was yes. We are both flat out with work and if one of us couldn't work we could and would pay her salary for a little while but couldn't do it indefinitely.

Other than going to the shops (taking hygiene measures) and for socially distant walks we haven't been out for a couple of weeks, so her chances of catching anything from us are minimal.

bjonesreborn · 27/03/2020 05:43

I’m a nanny to 2 school age children. Parents aren’t key workers so I’m at home. However I am doing 2 Skype sessions a day with the kids. They read to me, do their spellings and I helped them with any work they’re doing.
I’m also researching activities and worksheets they can do and sending them over to the mum so she doesn’t have to trawl the internet for ideas.
Parents get uninterrupted work time and I can still see the children and feel like I’m doing my bit.
Obviously this doesn’t work for younger children but worth a thought for anyone with older ones.
Never thought I’d be able to work from home , it’s a revelation’n

Bienentrinkwasser · 27/03/2020 05:54

Surely a nanny (even non live in) is basically a member of your household and has sufficient prior contact with your children that the 2m rule need not apply. Common sense.

bjonesreborn · 27/03/2020 06:12

No, a live out nanny is not a member of your household. They live in a different house. If the parents aren’t key workers there is no way the nanny should be at work. Households are not supposed to mix.

MolyHolyGuacamole · 27/03/2020 11:29

@Bienentrinkwasser added to that is the fact that many nannies are exposing themselves travelling to and from work on public transport, not all nannies have cars

nbee84 · 27/03/2020 11:38

Yes, I'm still working for non key workers. They wfh and 1 parent is particularly busy at the moment. 2 children - 1 with sn, so really wouldn't get much done if they had to tag team. We talked it through as it's a grey area over whether nannies should be working or not. They and I are staying at home and apart from 1 household shopping trip each so far (where we gloves etc) we haven't had contact with anyone else.

quickitsapoo · 27/03/2020 11:46

We are the same as @WellTidy.

At least one of us is working from 6am until 11pm.

Not key workers and per employment guidelines we cannot enforce any sort of social distancing so we have determined she cannot come to work per government guidelines.

She is on full pay at the moment but if we cannot furlough we will reassess. Our children are young but maybe there is something she could do on Skype or something.

The schedule we're on is exhausting and means DH and I don't really speak to each other before bed time but can't complain!

She is not 'effectively the same household'. She lives with her family who are all individually going to the shops and doing their daily exercise. We would double the size of our 'household' if we let our nanny come to work.

As employers we cannot follow government guidance on required social distance therefore we deem that her workplace does not meet current HSSE requirements (if we're looking at it formally!)

Pidgythe2nd · 29/03/2020 19:34

The 2m rule is only ‘where possible’ according to gov.uk.
It’s obviously not possible in some professions (eg. Care, nannying, shop) so not an absolute requirement.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others#going-to-work

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BumbleNova · 30/03/2020 18:34

That's really helpful @Pidgythe2nd

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