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Paid childcare

Discuss everything related to paid childcare here, including childminders, nannies, nurseries and au pairs.

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Nanny working on our holiday

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RahRahRooRah · 04/01/2019 21:55

We are taking our nanny with us next holiday, just wondering how should I pay her?
We are going to be away for 10 days, (2 days travel, 6 days holiday, 2 days travel)
The 6 days she will be working normal hours, but do I pay her full wages for the travel days?

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thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 04/01/2019 23:41

Really hoping OP is not my Dsis

user764329056 · 04/01/2019 23:47

Bloody hell, what a prime example of entitlement, you are her employer, you want her to come away with you to do the job of looking after your children and you need to ask whether she will be paid for making that trip? Mind blowing. Seriously, have a word with yourself

SleepingStandingUp · 05/01/2019 00:26

Also, unless you have an Angelina sized family, do you even need a Nanny on holiday? Pay her basic hours and give her the time off

nauticant · 05/01/2019 08:21

Time for a name change OP.

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RahRahRooRah · 05/01/2019 09:14

Wow ok, sorry, was only asking if it was full wages!
No she's not actually looking after them when travelling! She's travelling separately to us.
(And she has her own room, and all meals paid for)
I was just asking in case there was a 'nanny travelling rate of pay' that I didn't know about.

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Truckingonandon · 05/01/2019 09:32

Even if she's in first class on a different plane, you still pay. How could you think otherwise. Stop looking for ways to pay less and value their work and what they do for you.

ballsdeep · 05/01/2019 09:36

I feel. Sorry for. Some nannies I really do. First there was the one who spied on her nanny with a spy cam and now this!!

ThanosSavedMe · 05/01/2019 09:37

Yes there is a travelling rate. Their normal salary. Or were you asking if you should pay more?

ThanosSavedMe · 05/01/2019 09:38

And why are you stipulating that she has her own room and you are paying for all meals? Again this is standard, you are not doing her a favour her or going above and beyond!

SenoritaViva · 05/01/2019 09:39

The fact that she’s travelling separately is a mute point. She’s only travelling in order to work for you at the destination, so at your request.
Yes, there is a nanny travelling rate and it is to pay extra for her time away. I’d say with ten days away an extra £300 as well as daily rates/payment for travel.

Gina2012 · 05/01/2019 09:43

Wow ok, sorry, was only asking if it was full wages!

I'm interested to know why you'd think it wasn't full wages?

Because she's not looking after the kids?

Then leave her at home

lattesforlife · 05/01/2019 09:52

Have you seen that most of us who have experience of this have said its norm to pay a bonus on top of normal wages as she is away from home?

AlsoBling2 · 05/01/2019 09:54

Also, assuming.she doesn't usually work.10 straight days I would expect some of those days to be paid on a higher scale.

I do.sort.of.understand your question 're travel rates - I have a client who wants me to travel for a 3 day project. My fee includes time spent for travel but not at the same rate as my time on the project. The difference however is that I am a consultant. In theory, during that travel time/down time I will be able to.work on things for other clients. So while I am away, I am not entirely relying on the income from this client.

This is not the case with your Nanny.

LynetteScavo · 05/01/2019 10:05

Yes, you pay her for traveling days, the only reason she is travelling is because you want her on holiday.

LynetteScavo · 05/01/2019 10:07

And on such a short holiday don't insist she have a day off while you're there, so she can work when you get back.

Wauden · 05/01/2019 12:47

The point is that the nanny is travelling specifically to work for you. When she gets to the destination she will work for you.
The travel time is not a jolly for her. Its work.
So, you pay her for work.
Simples.

SleepingStandingUp · 05/01/2019 14:51

OP she's still travelling for two days just to work for you for 6 days and then having to travel two days back.

I can't think anywhere I'd want to go to for 6 says that I'd bother travelling two days to get to so I'd definately expect to be paid!

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 05/01/2019 15:03

I feel. Sorry for. Some nannies I really do. First there was the one who spied on her nanny with a spy cam and now this!!

Don't forget the poster who thought her Au Pair having access to hot water made her some sort of generous benefactor...

I agree with you ThanosSavedMe why even mention she gets her own bedroom and meals - that's a basic given, nothing generous - unless it's commonplace now to expect Nannies to sleep on park benches.

GoldilocksAndTheThreePears · 05/01/2019 15:32

This is why some people don't feel they have to pay for babysitting. Well the sitter is just sitting doing what I'd be doing in my home, why should I pay or pay properly? Forgetting the disruption, that the sitter or nanny is in another persons home and therefore not as comfortable or able to do what they want is in their own. Travelling to someone else's whims is in no way a holiday. I've travelled plenty of times as a nanny and it's always seen as a perk but it truly isn't, disrupting my life to travel as my employer chooses, where they have chosen, in accommodation they have chosen, eating what and when they deem I can. I had a boss who expressed they wanted to pay me less for a 4 day trip from France to Italy, which I refused and stood up for myself, because to them it was a very common work trip they happened to want to take toddlers with. What struck me most was that at no point during the trip could I even buy a single postcard let alone look in a shop, see a sight, look in a supermarket, choose a meal, every second was entertaining the toddlers in the hotel room (they shoved them in with me in my 'private' room) then transporting them to the parents and being on duty until taking them back to hotel. To them, a break. To me, triple the work for less pay!

thebaronetofcockburn · 05/01/2019 18:04

Special 'nanny travelling rate'! Jesus H Christ! Cannot believe you thought you could pay a person less for travelling to work for you! Leave her at home and look after your own kids then. Even The Maid of All work got her lodging and board in addition to a wage, her own room and meals are standard. Gawd, I hope she wakes up and finds an employer her treats her decently. Cannot abide seeing people being treated this way by employers.

thebaronetofcockburn · 05/01/2019 18:12

This is why some people don't feel they have to pay for babysitting. Well the sitter is just sitting doing what I'd be doing in my home, why should I pay or pay properly?

There have been a few pearlers on here who believed the babysitter should also clean their house for them because 'they were just sat there doing nothing'. Well, hey, then you don't need anyone there at all if the kids are 'just sleeping' in that case, swan off and leave 'em on their own and save loads.

DD2 had one person try to stiff her for babysitting. I put a stop to that and she never sat for those tight bastards again. She has had a few try to order her to do their ironing or clean whilst sitting and has now learned to walk out on them because they won't pay you, either.

flumpybear · 05/01/2019 18:19

She's having to travel for your benefit - personally I loathe travelling for work - if they told me I wasn't being paid for it I'd tell them to so their own bloody negotiations /business
Pay the nanny and give her extra for in inconvenience

Beansonapost · 05/01/2019 18:35

I hope she finds a better employer ASAP!

LuckyLou7 · 05/01/2019 20:40

I still don't think this is genuine. Is anyone really that daft that they think travel time doesn't count as work time?

Shakeit · 05/01/2019 20:44

If your boss asked you to travel somewhere in your own time, or in company time, would you expect to be paid?
Would you expect to be paid a lesser rate because you are travelling and not doing your usual work?
No didn’t think so.
Travelling with your family is not a privilege. It’s part of a days work.

So either look after your own children on holiday and don’t take the nanny. Or pay the woman you delegate the childcare to properly.

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