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Nanny wages? £450.00 per month??

65 replies

ziopin · 17/05/2007 09:24

Does £450.00 sound a fair wage for 22 hours (7 weeks paid holiday + bank holidays a year)

Part-time nanny bringing her own 3 month old baby with her.

Will she liable for tax & NI, can I pay her in Childcare vouchers?

Thanks

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allgonebellyup · 17/05/2007 09:26

er, not sure.You will have to pay her tax and NI though.

i earn £600 a month after tax as a nanny and work 18hrs a week.

goingfor3 · 17/05/2007 09:27

Smmes quite low to me. I earnt £200 for 36 hours per week 7 years ago and even then that was a 'good' wage.

goingfor3 · 17/05/2007 09:27

sorry 'wasn't' not 'was'

thedogsbollox · 17/05/2007 09:31

Very low.

A mid range nanny rate would be £7 net per hour. That means you should be paying around £670 net per month. Tax and NI are your responsibility and will add about £250ish a month on top.

You could rebate it a bit because she is bringing her own child. So say to £600 (10% ish deduction). However, I think this is probably already reflected in the relatively low rate per hour of £7 and her flexibility in working a part week for you.

Your holidays are more generous than the contractural arrangements most nannies have, although in practice I think most nannies get more than their contracts state. Ours certainly does!

ziopin · 17/05/2007 09:33

What about her bringing her own baby to work wih her though? and the 7 weeks Paid holidays a year!

That would be her net wage. We employ her at the moment - she earns £900 net every month - so I thought as I am halving her hours I could halve her wages!!

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allgonebellyup · 17/05/2007 09:42

i still earn £7-8 per hr and i work with my own toddler. your holidays seem generous though . what does your nanny think?

goingfor3 · 17/05/2007 09:45

If she's happy with that amount of pay now then she will probably accept what you are paying when you halve her hours. If she finds another part time nanny job to cover loss of earnings she may realise that you are not paying her a fair wage.

ziopin · 17/05/2007 09:48

Do you think that is not a fair wage?

And surely this is almost a nanny share situation, as I am sharing my nanny with other child (albeit hers!!)

We live in South Wales.

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goingfor3 · 17/05/2007 09:51

I have to admit I was thnking in terms of London wages so ignore everything I have said as I have no idea what would be fair in SW. If your nanny is happy with the pay then it's fine.

Eleusis · 17/05/2007 09:54

Is this gross or net? This is about £4.68 per hour. Is that within minimum wage? I think it might be but I am not sure. If you consider that this is a nanny share, then £4.68 from you is really more like £9 something per hour as a total wage. So, it's not too far off, depending on level of experience and your location.

Eleusis · 17/05/2007 09:55

Oh, I see now you are in South Wales. I think this is probably a reasonable wage.

ziopin · 17/05/2007 09:58

This is her net wage!

Whats the difference in wages between London prices and elsewhere (Cardiff)?

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fifilou · 17/05/2007 10:10

hi!

it depends on her Qualifications and expereince really!

I earn £550 net per week and work 50 hours.

ziopin · 17/05/2007 10:17

Bloody hell fifilou!! I'm in the wrong job!!

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Eleusis · 17/05/2007 10:20

Me too, Ziopin.

fifilou · 17/05/2007 10:20

Its a fair wack yes, but I've worked hard for it though over 7 years!
My wage statred off fairly avaerage 7 years ago, then I got fab pay rises every year. My boss recognises that this job is a proffession, not just babysitting as many see it!

I also get work realted bonuses!

Its great!

Happy nanny = happy kids!

fifilou · 17/05/2007 10:22

i really should check my posts before I send them!

Typing isnt my strong point, its a good job its not my career! That last post was full of errors!

oops!

Eleusis · 17/05/2007 10:23

Okay, so we are actually talking £9 per hour net in South Wales for a live out nanny share.

Sounds reasonable to me.

I live in Greater London, and would sooner vote for Gordon Brown than pay £550 net for a full time nanny.

ziopin · 17/05/2007 10:26

Good point

Feel totally undervalued as a teacher!!

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fifilou · 17/05/2007 10:30

Hey!

I'm not the only one around here on these wages you know?!

I work in a great area where the average wage ranges between 480-600 net per week.

Remember, I didnt start on this wage, neither did any of my nanny friends- we just stayed with the family and each year we got excellent pay rises. Around here a good nanny is hard to find (reliable, honest,trustworthy,educated......)
so they pay loyalty bouses in the wage increase.

Why shouldnt we earn a decent wage? Its a bloomin hard job, and one with great responsability! Are you suggesting that you would rather pay peanuts and employ a monkey?

ziopin · 17/05/2007 10:37

Hey fifilou, jump down off you horse!

Didn't mean to offend, I know its a bloody hard job, I certainly wouln't want to do it.

I hate kids!!

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Eleusis · 17/05/2007 10:39

You know, I'm happy to debate the issues of market rates, employer affordability, and what the job of a nanny is actually worth in financial terms. However, I must warn you that if throw around terms like monkeys and peanuts, you are really going to piss a lot of people off (including me).

yogimum · 17/05/2007 10:42

fifilou

I agree with you! If you are live out you have to pay for everything just like everybody else. I earned £300 live in but included all my expenses, car, petrol, food etc. I got some other nice perks too!

Eleusis · 17/05/2007 10:49

But, since you are so proud, why don't you tell us. What do you bring to the job that a nanny who charges half your rate doesn't bring to the job?

You have already mentioned seven years of experience. I'm not sure that is really such a perk. I like to hire nannies with only a year or two of experience because they are more willing to be trained for the role and less likely to tell me how things should be done.

So, what are you worth some -- what exactly is your gross salary? I went to the nannytax calculator to work it out but you are off the scale, as the highest rate it works out is £400 net per week.

fifilou · 17/05/2007 10:54

ooooooooooooooooooh! way too heated for me!

come,come,now, I wasnt getting cross, I was just defending my right to earn a decent wage.

monkeys and nuts aside, we all work hard, I wasnt implying anything, i certainly dont want to offend anyone!

ok?