From a parents point of view please.... PAYING your nanny!

[NannyL]

Ok just wondering views on this!
Ive been in my job 6 months now and its perfect and i LOVE it in everyway. my bosses are great and its 3 mins from my home! ALL perfect EXCEPT they still havant paid me for february!
Also since starting there in september i have never been paid on time! been paid on 16th twice, 9th once 19th once and 4th once, and its now the 25th and i STILL havent been paid!
Until this month EVERY time it REALLY WAS the banks fault! (im always 'good' and reasonable about it and just say dont worry, boss goes to bank, 'sorts' it and a week later moeny finally has left his account hung around in 'no-where-land' for a few days and arrived in My account.
BUT its now getting rediculouse.
To be fair this month i didnt mention it to my boss until 9th march BUT I WAS AWAY ON HOLIDAY so didnt have much chance (and surely its clear on their bank anyway?)
He (convinced it was the banks fault again) didnt actually even GO to the bank for a whole week but he went demanding they pay me THAT DAY but (for the 1st time it WAS actually HIS fault, he hadnt ticked a box or something). Anyway im really not worried that he made a mistake, he is after all only a person and we all make mistakes sometimes! it was apparently sorted last friday so £ should have made it into my account of thursday...
BUT they didnt so its now banks fault again. I didnt find out until i got home on thursday night and on Friday morning my boss left as i walked in and i didnt see them until 6pm ie after banks closed.
Im now getting REALLY REALLY frustrated... I have NEVER been paid later EVER in any other job ever before (been working as a nanny for over 7 years now!)
I figure after 6 months its really SHOULD be sorted right now shouldnt it? We both have internet banking after all and its 2007!
My mum thinks i should demand a chapps payment which will cost my bosses £30 when i go to work on tuesday (i dont work mondays)... is this fair? (i think so!)
My step dad thinks i shouldnt go in to work until im paid , but a) that is VERY unproffesional (and thats not how i am.... surely if i refused to go to work they would then refuse to pay me?)
b) its now the holidays and we have lots of exciting things planned that I am looking forward to!
c) if i dont go to work sick people eitehr dont have operations (if mb is at home) or dont have a GP to see for their appointments (if db is at home!)
BUT i have a mortgage etc to pay as well and i CANT AFFORD to not be paid much longer.
so if you were my boss what would u do? If i said go to bank now and pay me by chapps would you consider that unreasonable?
Also what about all the interest i havent earned on not having my money for a whole month?
so far in 6 months ive been paid 87 days late and counting

Sorry nannyL, cross posted, your explanation about the statement sounds totally reasonable, you just didn't explain yourself very well intially. I think this is a topic that worries a lot of people, hence the replies. I was genuinely suprised when you said you'd seen a statement, I've always respected your professionalism. I'm relieved you've cleared things up.

I'm gald you've decided to get tough, they need to know your bills are just as valid as theirs.

LOL at crossing posting!

u are right i didnt explain it very well, probably because i was talking about not being paid and i thought it was beside the point!

another thing im thinking.... if i end up being paid twice can i just keep it for march (or if marchs payment works for april)

as it is ive been payed 87 days late so far so it will just mean that i have had the correct amount of money for either minus 57 days or minus 27 days depending on if marchs payment which apparenty will work, works!

There's abslutely no excuse for this at all. We pay our nanny by standing order on 25th of each month. It took about 2 minutes to set up. It's outrageous that they haven't got this set up 6 months into your job.

i have a nanny and if for some reason the money didnt go out to her on time, id go and get it in cash, or at least part of it, and give it to her to be getting on with. id talk to her about it all and do my best to make sure she wasnt inconvenienced.

im sorry, but im highly sceptical that the bank is at fault this whole time. if you both have internet banking, they only have to go online, click a couple of buttons and its done. i think theyre messing you about, personally. and this month really takes the piss.

arew they maybe having financial problems you are falling victim to?

nannyL - if there really is a problem with standing orders (which I just don;t understand...) the alternative would be to take a paying in book to work with you, ask them to write you 3 or 6 or even 12 postdated cheques, put them in envelopes, with a completed paying in slip, stamped and addressed to the bank. write in pencil on the envelope what month it's for. keep them in your nanny diary and then post them once a month. it's more hassle than a standing order - but seeing as that seems to be eluding them, this is, at least, do-able and idiot-proof. you could maybe suggest it as a short-term alternative. and say to them - please can you do it now, before I leave today...

whilst i obviously cant know for sure i really really really very much doubt that they are having financial difficulties! They both have very very well paid jobs afterall, and dont even have any school fees (yet!)

I agree its rediculouse and that it would be an obviouse conclusion though!

1st month it went wrong cause bank had my account number wrong
2nd time my boss had actually not quite done it right
3rd time bank tried to use the old (wrong) account number
4th time i dont know / cant remeber
5th time it pretty much worked (took 6 days instead of 4) and it all went threw HOORAY

this time not worked which was somehow my bosses fault...

however on 16 march he went to bank personally, and got it sorted so should have been in my account this thursday but not

beleive me my boss was mortified and when he realised that it was his fault on friday 16 he really was very very sorry!

as i said i dont mind the fact that he made a mistake, he's a human afterall!

I do genuinely believe its the banks fault!

but am getting a bit pi$$ed off with it all now!

on tuesday 14 march mummy boss asked me if it had been sorted, (daddy boss does that stuff) and i said well actually no i STILL havent been paid for feb, and even then her reaction was Thats rediculouse its 2 weeks late already and she was quite cross actually! They never had problems paying their old nanny!

I will be sure to tell HER on tuesday, cause i see her on tuesday, normally only see ddadyboss! and she will not be amused, and im sure will be right on my side!

i also agree about the scepticism that this is the bank's fault. if my bank failed to sort out a simple standing order so continually I'd be changing bank

didn;t they offer to advance you some cash?

actaully hatwoman so would I

in fact i DID change banks a whiel back when barclays were so incompetant with me and cause me so much grief!

nanny friend suggest me changing my bank account to a natwest account so we dont have to keep waiting a week for any money to get from 1 account to another.

BUT IMO natwest seem incompetant and i am quite happy with my account where it is!

maybe on tuesday i will suggest that my boss changes to halifax as well

hatwoman.... i dont think so this time?

Or did they?... cant remember... was definitiely not offered any this friday but id still have said no dont worry. Its not like im going anywhere near the bank and nor have i had anytime to!

in the past they have but i always say no dont worry! I HATE carrying cash around with me and i hardly ever use it anyway!

re: the statement thing... if you have someone working in your home and you leave stuff like that lying about for all to see then you shouldnt be surprised if it gets glanced at and clocked. and given that it was left in the nanny diary, well, of course she saw it!

i really think you can get a lot more insistant about this without being aggro or confrontational in any way (i know you dont like talking about stuff like money, nor confrontation of any kind) but seriously, 6 months is just not on.

and im v v surprised that they didnt go right out and get you at least some of the money upon finding out its gone wrong again this month. (thats IF they are being totally truthful about it all being mistakes)

I would have offered cash for every thing due up to date and said if you end up paid twice pay us back by cheque. If ever once I forgot to get cash on Friday we'd arrange for her to pick it up on Sat morning which I probably only did once or twice in a lot of years.

I bank on line with Nat West. I set up a standing order to my son last year. I did it with enough warnings. I went on line and gave the bank details and then they've paid and always do until it's stopped. i can also go on line and see all the standing orders and when they're paid and in about 2 seconds click to change the dates etc. The family husband and wife should get Nat West on line banking which is free and much quicker than visiting branches.

they have natwest online banking!

only end up visiting branches when 'money' doesnt move from there account into mine!

The more i think about it the more rediculose ive decided it is!

As of now they can pay me on time EVERY month! Reading all these replies makes me realise how outragouse this is!

I suppsoe im far to soft and understanding and just say dont worry it doesnt matter, when actually it DOES!

Ive been on my online bank today and realise that in about 2 seconds i can transfer money from my account to any other account i chose!

Yes, NnnayL. Between banks it takes more time. My daughter transferred some to me from Lloyds end of last week and it will take about 4 days. I think the banks just like to hang on to it and claim interest as it's already left her account. They can also on Nat West either do a transfer of a set sum once or set up a regular standing order which is obviously better for monthly payments. I just don't see what the problem is and how so very much money hasn't been paid. Can't they type in the right month or date? It's not very hard. My student chidlren at univesrity can do it.

1. They know you won't make too much of a fuss and are fobbing you off with excuses and false apologies.

1. They aren't paying your tax.

It's piss taking, pure and simple. There's something they're not telling you or they are extreme fuckwits.

As a nanny myself I am payed either cash or cheque or through internet banking, it generally what is best for me. For a employer not to pay you is totally unaccaptable and is taking advantage of you and your bond with the children. You cannot live off of fresh air and as you do need the money (and you have earned it, it is yours). I think it is unfair to place such emotional stress on you as you have been left in an incredibly awkward situation. Go to the bank yourself and fill in the paper work as far as you can and ask if you can sit down go through, or ask him to fill it out while you are their and take it in yourself. You are not wrong to want to be paid and it is not a reflection that you are being greedy or in the job for only the money as you sound as though you love what you do. The care you provide is valuble and so are you so do not allow the parent to mess you around as it sounds to me asthough it may happen again or continue.

damn right wandering trolly....I totally agree!

Why don't you bring him a stack of deposit slips for your bank account tomorrow (Tuesday) morning, and ask him to write the cheque and mail them direct to your bank. The post will surely not take any longer than the current process.

If you need to go to the bank to sort this out yourself, then I think it would be perfectly reasonable to do it on your work time, and not your own time. However, as it is his bank, I don't really see that they will talk to you anyway. So, perhaps he should go to the bank today to sort this out.

No excuse, I'm paid by cheque on the same day of every month & never late!

good grief this is ridiculous. they HAVE online banking but they go IN the branch to sort out standing orders?! good god. i hope they are a little more proficient in their day jobs.

Have you been paid yet? Ask for cash for this month if not, and then insist on a meeting where you say this simply isn't acceptable. It's completely outrageous!

how would they feel if their bosses didnt pay them on time!!!

NannyL,

If you have not yet been paid, i realy think you need to tell them that you will not be available for work untill all monies due are paid, and if this happens once more that you will be looking for new employment as you have your own bills to paid each month and you need your salary to be paid on time. Also you will passing on any bank charges for them to remburse you at their expence.

I know this sounds harsh but they are realy taking the P* now. As you say that they are professional people they need to understand that they are being unreasonable.

Thank you everyone!

Its nice that people are supportive.

anyway i have decided that when i go in to work tomorrow im telling them that they are paying me tomorrow by chapps. (it will cost them £30 but that is not my problem)

If it has been set up again and is in the process of coming to my account then im not having it! I want my money and i want my money tomorrow!

If i get it twice then i'll give it back by cheaque, so long as next week im paid for march

I could even make them wait 88 days before i give it back but i dont think i can do that cause thats not very "me"

Yes and ive decided that i want to make it clear that from now on i will be paid on time or else they can chapps it across to me every month! costing them £30 each time.