Deregulation of the Early Years workforce

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Article in Nursery World and letter from Gove to Ofsted make clear the whole workforce is to be deregulated not just c/ms !!!

www.nurseryworld.co.uk/.../Gove-signals-further-moves-towards-deregulation

media.education.gov.uk/.../secretary%20of%20states%20letter%20to%20her%20majestys%20chief%20inspector%20ofsted.pdf

Looks like this news has flown past many people...all busy watching the Olympics?

We will wait until after that to come down to reality!!

Not flown past me. Read your links and inwardly digesting the info.

wow really, why? {in a nutshell?}

Very important

Can't get link to work what is it saying

Can someone post the link so it can be accessed?

Grove Signals Futher Moves Towards Deregulation - Nursery World: 06 August 2012

The second link I think is this one: HTML Page containing link to PDF

Thank you v much nick. Am not clear what the letter / regulations mean though (bit dim this eve). May look into it again when not tired!

so what does this mean for someone who is just about to start an early years degree? Is my career doomed to low wages and no working rights or will I be valued and free from ofsted?

If nurseries start inspecting I'm off

When you read the article from Nursery World click on 'letter' and you will see what Gove wrote to Sir Michael Winshaw in July which is basically going ahead with deregulation Phase 1 for the whole workforce not just c/ms....
I feel we were used as a smokescreen while he planned this !!!

Please respond to the Childcare Commission which closes end of August but also join calls to extend it as everyone is on holiday and the timing is dubious.
(if you are on Twitter you can follow this there)

We need to be given opportunity to respond before decisions are taken as we were promised full consultation!!

I posted the link to the e-petition against deregulation of c/ms in this forum a while back...now this applies to everyone...please sign and encourage others to do so...!!!

Please can someone tell mt the pros and cons Im an Ofsted nanny and am just about to start a BA in early years hoping to be an early years teacher in the future and Im very confused

I think you need to read about why deregulation has been proposed mainly a cost cutting exercise
Nannies I do not think are included in this deal
You are registered with Ofsted but not inspected and do not have to deliver EYFS

This is for c/ms, nurseries and preschools...follow discussions on Twitter or Facebook if you can to get the history behind this!!!

Also read centreForum report on their website and look at why Childcare Commission has been set up

It seems to me that they are removing the requirement for Ofsted to carry out an inspection of someone on Part A of the Childcare Register (note: nannies are on Part B, so does not apply to nannies at this stage) every 3 years.

The Childcare (Inspections) Regulations 2008, Provision 3 has been revoked along with a number of other provisions.

3.?(1) This regulation applies in the case of an early years provider who, immediately before 1st September 2008 was registered under section 79F of the 1989 Act and, on 1st September 2008, becomes registered in the early years register(1).
(2) An early years inspection must be conducted?
(a)within the period of 3 years beginning with 1st August 2009, and
(b)thereafter, within each period of 3 years beginning with the 1st August following the date of the previous early years inspection.

Looks to me that it has been replaced by all providers registered before 1st August 2012 must be inspected by 31 July 2016.
Then all providers registered on or after 1st August 2012 having an inspection within 3 years of 1st August following their registration.
So a childminder (on early years register) registered on 1st November 2012 would be inspected by 1st August 2016.

EYFS 2012 says that "3.74 Providers must make available to parents and/or carers details about how to contact Ofsted, if they believe the provider is not meeting the EYFS requirements. If providers become aware that they are to be inspected, they must notify parents and/or carers. After an inspection, providers must supply a copy of the report to parents and/or carers of children attending on a regular basis."

So after the inspection in 2016, I think that Ofsted will only be doing complaints visits inspections, which providers have to tell parents about and provide a copy of the report. Ofsted would continue to do the year 3 inspection of new providers.

Is that how you read it?

i'm glad i've got my childcare foundation degree now and I'm certainly off to another profession!

I don't understand what the objection is. As a parent I think eyes is a silly bit of extra paperwork for childminders. Is anyone really going to miss it?

I love my childminder to bits. And I'm sure she would be just as fab without writing it all down. My 1 year old couln't care less either.

E y f s (hate apple spell checker!)

EYFS is a bit of a burden at times but it ensures accountability and rising standards....for those who have chosen childcare as a profession it is evidence of knowledge and professionalism

There is a diffenrence between deregulation and legislation...when deregistered from Ofsted we will still need to deliver EYFS without Ofsted inspections but still work under EYFS legislation...complicated ?
ask the govt or better still respond to the Childcare Commission...parents' views are pricelss!!!

nannynick do you mind if i quote you on another forum? we are all wondering what deregulation will mean- if it happens- and you've put forth a interesting idea.

Sure I don't mind Stomp. What's the interesting idea? 1st August 2016 is possibly an interesting date... maybe it will be the date when the agency model takes over monitoring providers.

Yes an interesting idea that it could be the 1st August 2016, but that date is a long way away, and its not like the government not drag its feet is it? if they want to deregulate the childcare workforce they surely will be moving on this sooner?
thanks nannynick

I think you are reading too much into it - although a number of people have some pretty strong prejudices I don't think there is a fully formed secret policy with an implementation timetable.

What has clearly already been decided is that too much money is currently being spent on inspections which are of dubious value. Extending the inspection cycle from three to four years implies a reduction in the annual cost of one third.

So I think the only significance of 1 August 2016 is that it is four years after 1 August 2012.

Of course there will be a lot more changes that come in before 2016, but this change is presumably enough to help Ofsted balance its inspeciton budget against the savings that have been imposed upon it, and it is probably important that it is able to do that prior to the Chancellor's Autumn Statement (late November) - the changes to be proposed following the recommendations of the Childcare Commission will take a lot longer than that.

I am a bit worried that after all this time people are still asking what 'deregulation' is about?
For some it may be welcomed as freedom from red tape and pressure from all sides but for your own business it will be disaster.

Who wants an agency telling us how to run our business, how much to charge, how many kids to take and parents being referred to you rather than you as c/m choosing who you do business with????

In the end it is all to do with money and that is what is driving deregulation alongside shot termism ...
Guessing in this forum as in others will not help...

In case someone missed it Gove has put us in Phase 1 of deregulation...no one knows what it means because he has taken a single minded decision....

Get involved, sign the e-petition, sign the one on the Labour Party and write to your MPs to object to the Gove decision while the Childcare Commission is still live....which means he has not even got the curtesy to wait for us to respond

Yesterday I had a meeting with Elizabeth Truss MP who advocates the 'agency' model...very interesting indeed!!