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Convictions on CRB, can you still register as a childminder?

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BrazenHussy · 23/05/2012 22:04

The title says it all really, does anyone know

TIA

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Babylon1 · 23/05/2012 22:05

Depends on the conviction, but IIRC anything involving violence is a big no no.

Rubirosa · 23/05/2012 22:08

Will depend on what the conviction was and how long ago - a shoplifting conviction 20 years ago probably wouldn't be a problem, recent drugs convictions would. Anything involving sex, violence, or crimes against children rules you out.

baabaapinksheep · 23/05/2012 22:09

Really does depend on the conviction.

BrazenHussy · 23/05/2012 22:09

Even a non custodial conviction Babylon1?

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PissyDust · 23/05/2012 22:09

As the other replies have said, it really depends on when and what.

BrazenHussy · 23/05/2012 22:14

Thanks all for quick replies Smile

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givemushypeasachance · 24/05/2012 13:20

If it's a "disqualifiable offence" such as a sexual offence or serious violence then after you apply you would have to submit a waiver to ask them to waive your disqualification and they would interview you about the circumstances and make a decision. If it's not disqualifiable but Ofsted are worried about it then they might ask to interview you about it anyway, to see what happened and why, what your attitude is to taking responsibility for what you did, if you have moved on and turned over a new leaf and so on. If you caused major criminal damage to the house and car of someone your partner was having an affair with two years ago and show no remorse, say you'd do it again, see nothing wrong with that then quite possibly they would think you might not be a good person to be looking after other people's children and setting a good example to them. If you nicked a few things as a teenager with your mates twenty years ago but saw the error of your ways, have been law-abiding since then and now volunteer with kids at a youth club and encourage them to avoid what you did then that could be all well and good.

That all applies to any convictions that members of your household have as well - husband, mother in law who lives in an annex, adult children, lodgers, anyone who lives with you and might regularly come into contact with the children when they're with you.

BrazenHussy · 24/05/2012 20:26

Thank you so much givemushypeasachance that was very helpful and made me be able to see some light at the end of a very dark tunnel.

Btw, this thread isn't about me, I'm already a registered childminder and have been for many years. I am asking on behalf of my lovely, gentle, thoughtful and patient DP who is absolutely brilliant with my children and any others he meets and whom I would love to employ as my assistant.However 5 years ago he was wrongly convicted of assault and battery. His career and indeed his life has been ruined by this Sad Sad

I shall look into what we may be able to do.

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Rubirosa · 24/05/2012 20:32

Have Ofsted already CRB'd him as living with you?

lisaro · 24/05/2012 20:32

Sorry but I'm not buying the wrongly convicted crap.

JustFab · 24/05/2012 20:33

BH!!!!!!!!!!!!

pinkyp · 24/05/2012 20:36

Won't he of been crb checked already?

Hassled · 24/05/2012 20:36

lisaro - people do get wrongly convicted. It does happen.

RandomNumbers · 24/05/2012 20:38

Um yes if he is living there he should already be crb'd

Oh dear

DonInKillerHeels · 24/05/2012 20:41

"I would love to employ as my assistant.However 5 years ago he was wrongly convicted of assault and battery"

He is living with you, in your place of work with minors, and he hasn't been CRB checked????!!!!

Flisspaps · 24/05/2012 20:42

The thread title is 'convictions on CRB' so I imagine the OP's DP has had an Ofsted CRB check done (I'm guessing some posters are assuming that the DP hasn't been CRB checked)

Flisspaps · 24/05/2012 20:44

She is asking if he can be registered - which is a different process to, but includes, a CRB check,

kylesmybaby · 24/05/2012 20:47

lisaro - how rude are you - you have no idea about what really happened. im sure she woudn't care if you buy it or not .

kylesmybaby · 24/05/2012 20:48

sorry meant (wouldn't)

BrazenHussy · 24/05/2012 21:28

Hi N xxx Please email me x

He's not living with me and because of his convictions he doesn't visit the house during my working hours.

Ofsted know of his convictions and so do ALL of my mindees parents.

He does have a crb showing his convictions.

I came on here for advice not criticism so thank you for those who have given it.

I sincerley hope you are never wrongly convicted of something lisaro

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givemushypeasachance · 24/05/2012 21:34

He would have already been CRB checked if he lives in the same household, so if it was an issue it should have come up when Ofsted did his checks. (He might be a new partner who doesn't live with her yet though?) Or if BrazenHussy was registered a long while back and the conviction happened since registration then it wouldn't have happened yet when he was first checkedn, but Ofsted should have been informed when the conviction happened (you have to notify them about stuff like that).

Assault/battery - the common law version - is the most minor of those types of offences and can cover quite a range of circumstances from simple pushing/shoving and shouting threats to a scuffle leading to bruising and a split lip. Not to minimise the seriousness of some incidents, but you could end up being cautioned for assault without having actually done very much of anything. Assault causing actual bodily harm (ABH) - where there is actual injury - and then grevious bodily harm (GBH) - serious injuries up to nigh on death - are disqualifiable, but battery isn't.

If someone in a childminder's household had one conviction for assault on their CRB check I don't know whether Ofsted would want to interview them before making a decision about their suitability or if they can do it based on the details they get from the police with the check, but if they did want to talk to the person then "it was a wrongful conviction" probably wouldn't lead to a great assessment of their taking responsibility for their actions. Not judging this particular case at all, and of course some people are wrongly convicted, but it would probably come across better if he can explain how the wrongful conviction came about (if it was a mistake/misunderstanding - if he just says he was set up by corrupt police/whoever then that's unlikely to go down well!) and then he can explain what he has learnt from the situation and how he wouldn't get himself in that sort of position again.

givemushypeasachance · 24/05/2012 21:37

Oh, cross posting fail! Well that explains why he hasn't had a check done yet. If you think he's a suitable person to be an assistant, parents would be happy with it and his conviction can be explained to an interviewing inspector, he can articulate how he's different to how he was then if that's relevant, etc then it's worth giving the application a try - the worse they can say is that they're not happy to clear him as an assistant, in which case you'll be in no different a position than you are now.

RandomNumbers · 24/05/2012 21:41

great advice from peas

BrazenHussy · 24/05/2012 21:45

Yes, thats really helpful (and supportive) peas, thank you so much :-)

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