Do you think less women would opt for c-section if they still did the old vertical incision?

[SoupDragon]

Nothing judgemental here, just something that I wondered about after seeing mention of the old vertical incision method on another thread.

Obviously the "new" unobtrusive version is a vast improvement.

oh shut it Shaz

9yrs on........and ermm - well I can't remember what my scar looks like - I'm not in the habit of lifting up the hang to have a look

Hey, I am a fattie and would much rather be skinny!

I should have checked the dates...

Hello 1944girl! My mum has a similar scar by the sounds of it, from her hysterectomy which was done classical because of a previous scar. She's spoken to her GP and they're referring her for scar removal (aka tummy tuck) on the NHS.

About my previous post, I had two crash sections. They were done very well* (the first by the hospital director and everyone who saw it commented on how nice it is ) and are now invisible, at least they are when you can find them! I have an overhang that is just empty skin. I am not fat, I eat well and whilst my PN PGP stops me from doing much exercise I also don't drive so have to walk everywhere and I do crunches a few times a week (as often as my back can handle). I am about a size "15" but my overhang brings me up to 16/18/20 depending on the garment. I can't even wear control wear to fix it as I just end up looking pregnant.

• Crash sections, especially if done with a general probably have more time to make sure that things are done properly! I was unconscious for 45 minutes.

Well, i think I had a crash section then. All the midwifes called it an emergency, but I was signing consent forms with one hand while they put a canula in the other and shaved me, I was being cut open maybe ten minutes after it was decided to do it, baby got stuck, hence the weird cut.

I had elective crash section! Bet not many people can boast that!

You may be right confuddled. My scar is much better after the second op which was done under general. I thought maybe the surgeon was better able to concentrate without me yackking on...

Yeah, that'd be a crash! Mine was because of prematurity and a few other factors. Doctor came in and checked to see if I'd stopped the contractions, I was fully dilated (which I didn't know at the time) and said "OK, we need to get this baby out" next thing I know room is full of people, three consent forms being explained over the top of each other, nails being cleaned (why did I choose that day to paint them for the first time in the pregnancy?) canula put in my hand and dressed for theatre ALL at the same time! Two midwives were helping my midwife change for theatre in the room next to me.

They have you under so they don't need to hurry up as there's no time limit with the anesthetic and you're not lying there saying "let me at my baby!"

I forgot to say, baby was being ran down the corridor 18 minutes after the immortal words!

I have had both DC by ELCS and to be honest given the choice I would still chose CS over VB (I would NEVER want to experience that).

Having nearly lost my son in an EMCS I will be pushing for an elective next time.

They can take it out through a hole in my fucking throat if they want to. My baby's life comes before my vanity.

Most emergencies are hospital created. The rate of sections is far higher than it should be if they were only being given for real emergencies. That's not to say that it didn't save a life, but it's to say they wouldn't have needed to save the life if things had gone properly. Cycle of intervention.

what a twatty post

Hospital caused my pre-eclampsia and my son's heartrate to crash every time I had a contraction?

Oh, no point in arguing. Someone on here (no idea who!) once told me that my previa was not an indication for a CS as they "move up out of the way as soon as labour starts"

Ha ha!

No and they never caused me go into premature labour and deliver a foot either. I've stated several times on this thread that I've had emergency sections, so obviously I don't agree that all are.

I said cycle of intervention. That means that they start messing about with things they have to do something else and something else until eventually a section is a life or death situation that could have been birthed naturally if they hadn't been too quick to mess around.

I also said that the rate is higher than is explained by true emergencies.

OBVIOUSLY some women have true emergencies (eg confuddledDOTcome, SkiHorseWonAWean...) but we can't ignore cycle of intervention just because some of us actually did have a real emergency situation.

Wow, Shaz, that's a good one! It is technically possible to deliver a previa baby naturally but it's so dangerous to do I'd far rather have a section for it. I'm not sure our doctors and midwives even know how to do it these days.

I went on a really really woo lentil weaver-style childbirth forum once, and even they were all saying that they would agree to a CS for previa. Many were saying it would be the only reason they would agree to an elective CS. So who this other person was I don't know! I was a little scared for her.

Yeah same here! Well one of very few reasons. I had an elective crash because we knew I'd go into premature labour again, they won't take premature babies out if there's no choice and I couldn't VBAC because of my internal scar.

Back then the cycle of intervention was more inevitable than it is today only usually without a section at the end

I was in for two weeks and then home for 3 days and in for another week. I can appreciate how helpful it was then, the staff were brilliant with me, taught me to do everything spent time getting us breastfeeding...

There are more negatives today than just a hospital stay, but that's probably a whole thread in itself. Statistics certainly aren't showing a healthy view of pregnancy, labour and birth.

Hi,

There are quite a few mums to be on here who have been asking about whether they can ask for a section for their first or other babies, who dont medically need one (I am sure they just think it is an easier option!) so I would say there are women who would choose to have one for non neccesary reasons if they could!

I am having what is classified as an elective very soon (last baby was an emcs) though it is only elective as it is pre planned, it is neccesary as baby is transverse! For me, it would make no difference if the scar was vertical, having a living baby is the most important thing any day! However, if I was getting a section just because I wanted one, and for no other reason, I would be put off if I knew the scar would be worse and would be more likely to go for a natural delivery.