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Share experiences and get support around labour, birth and recovery.

Any top tips on Breast feeding / what you wish you had known beforehand ?

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EnchantingRaven · 20/03/2019 20:37

Hi all

I’m currently 36 weeks pregnant and hoping to ebf my LO and she’ll be our first baby.

I’m sure this is normal but I feel like I have absolutely no idea what to expect / how I’m going to cope! I’ve been reading a lot online and watched some videos on YouTube which there seems to be a lot of focus on the ‘latch’ & ensuring it’s right.

Does anybody have tips or advice of what you found useful when you just started breast feeding / getting the latch right? Is it clear you can hear the baby sucking and then swallowing? (Sorry if that’s a stupid question)

Does it hurt? I’ve read conflicting info some say it’s toe curling others not so much, is this more so down to everyone being different?

I’m also hoping to express milk so my DP can bond with her too and I can have precious sleep too!, I understand you shouldn’t really do this for a few weeks which is fine but again, any tips on how to cope with feeding on demand? Is it literally whenever she needs it so there’s no limit I can feed her? My HV came around at 28 weeks and told me it will literally feel like I’m BF all day for 8 weeks! (I’ve bought nipple cream and nipple shields incase they become sore.) I wish I asked my HV more questions but I’ve had HG throughout this pregnancy and wasn’t particularly feeling great when she was here so I’m kicking myself now.

I’m really excited to meet her but I’m really worried I’m not going to be able to get the breast feeding right! Any other tips / advice would be great too

TIA

OP posts:
Pomfluff · 20/03/2019 22:23
  1. Expect it to hurt at first
    I had a toe-curling pain in the beginning but I just gritted my teeth and got through it. Used lots of Lansinoh cream in the first two weeks and things improved dramatically after that. After your nipples get “toughened up” it will feel like a mild tugging.

  2. Breastfeed as often as possible
    The only surefire way to make more milk is to empty the breast. (Cookies, water, supplements are all secondary) The midwives at hospital told me I had to feed every 2 hours around the clock, 8-12 times a day for at least several weeks. Doing formula night feeds too early can interrupt supply.

  3. Side lying position is amazing!
    I always had problems in cradle/rugby hold because there are three dimensions and baby can tilt sideways, lose the latch, swallow air etc. Side lying was a revelation because there are only 2 dimensions...and as long as you lie tummy to tummy then you can almost definitely get a good latch. Also amazing for getting a bit of rest and cuddles.

  4. Use your instincts, don’t take things personally
    I found consolation in the thought that women all over the world and throughout history have somehow managed to breastfeed...with no access to heating pads, nipple shields etc. Reading too much about breastfeeding can sometimes backfire as I was catastrophising every tiny hurdle. Nipple confusion, supply issues, pain breastfeeding strikes. It helped to just let go and go with the flow...if baby screams and refuses to latch I just tell myself she’s simply a baby, rather than feeling like a failure.

  5. Sleepy babies feed better
    Starting from 4 weeks, DS became very fussy and would often cry & scream instead of feeding, despite being obviously hungry. The trick was to soothe her to sleep and offer her boob the second she woke up from a nap. Always worked well and still using this method at 13 weeks!

Ploppymoodypants · 20/03/2019 22:26

Yep agree with velvet pineapple about the weight. Your body knows it has a baby to feed and so it keeps its fat reserves. Because your body doesn’t know it’s 2019 and we have supermarkets. Your body thinks we are all still living in the wild and that we might not find any food next week and the baby might starve. So it keeps the fat in reserve for ‘just in case’ 🙈

Clover1981 · 20/03/2019 22:27

I’m currently BF mine as I type this - first born and EBF. She’s now 3 months.

When they are newborn you need to feed them regularly even if they are asleep (I.e every 2-3 hours). Don’t wait for them to wake up for a feed. I didn’t know this as it was my first baby and she went too long between feeds because she had a long sleep. When we woke her up she was too tired to feed so I had to hand express colostrum and feed her with a syringe. That gave her the burst of energy she needed and she was feeding herself shortly after. I felt so stupid but I honestly thought she’d wake up for a feed!

Use all the help you can get from midwives and ask as many questions as you can. There’s also breastfeeding cafes where I live where you can drop in if you’re having any issues once you’re out of hospital.

Cold cabbage leaves helped for when my breasts became engorged when my milk came in. The discomfort only lasts a day or so and you just have to try to ride it out and get the baby to feed on them. Your body is adjusting to the baby’s needs and it takes a while for the supply to settle down to the correct amount. I also had some breast pads which I soaked in water and froze, then put them in my bra-sheer bliss!

Try to learn what a good latch is (get MW to show you) and if the baby latches on badly then correct it until it’s right. Feeding with a bad latch is painful and result in sore nipples if uncorrected. Now 3 months in I don’t seem to have to worry about the latch anymore- I think my nipples have thoughened up!

Finally, our baby took a bottle of breast milk several times so we got a bit cocky and stopped trying. Then at 12 weeks we tried her with a bottle and she now completely refuses! They have a suckle reflex that they lose at around d 12 weeks so if you want to give bottles, keep giving them regularly!

Snowoctopus · 20/03/2019 22:28

Lots of excellent advice here. I’d recommend finding your nearest La Leche League meeting and going along before the baby is born of possible, as well as after they arrive.

AquarianSquirrel · 20/03/2019 22:29

Research safe co-sleeping. Perhaps buy a co-sleeping cot or a cot with a drop down side to position next to your bed if you're unsure you want to have your baby in bed at first. Safe co-sleeping is far far safer than accidentally falling asleep in a chair though. Women and babies have been co-sleeping since the dawn of time. Cots were actually invented to keep babies off the floor in draughty houses!

AgentCooper · 20/03/2019 22:36

I’m still breastfeeding my 17 month old DS and at first I didn’t have a clue. I really thought we weren’t going to make it past a few weeks. Now I love it.

Feeding lying down is a lifesaver when you’re knackered. When you first get home, spend a day in bed just feeding the wee one and resting. Get some good Netflix shows lined up!

A good lactation consultant is a Godsend. If you’re in Glasgow let me know and i’ll point you in the direction of an amazing one.

If it’s hard, go easy on yourself. Don’t lose faith, but take help where you can get it. Be kind to yourself and don’t feel you need to make cups of tea for anyone!

Valkarie · 20/03/2019 22:38

It is different for everyone
It doesn't need to look like the picture in the book / website. If baby is filling nappies and you are not in too much pain then it is working for you. I had "lipstick" nipple, but it wasn't an issue.
Breastfeeding lying down and sleeping did not work. I don't have big enough boobs to reach!
When everyone else you know has got past the pain part, I still had painful let down. It didn't last though and got better after a couple of months.
If you get too full early on when the baby takes longer than expected between feeds, just pump. Don't get over full and uncomfortable.
Once established, it is much easier not to not have to have to do all the washing up. But if you want the baby to have bottles occasionally then don't leave it too late. My ds1 took a bottle fine, but left it later with ds2 and he refused.

Finally, go with your gut feel. All the advice in the world can't beat what feels right for your body and your baby.

BertieBotts · 20/03/2019 22:40

The most important thing is to find your trusted sources of support.

If at all possible, find a local BF support group and go along while you're still pregnant so that you've met people and it isn't a big daunting thing once you've had the baby. You'll want to go back and show him/her off and it will be nice to know you can feed in front of people without feeling self conscious. Then you have people you can ask for advice/support/any random questions you think of later.

If you need help/support follow this hierarchy:

  • Ask the midwives from labour ward. You can usually call them 24/7 for a few days after discharge and they will give advice and send a community midwife if you need it.

If you have been discharged/you didn't find their advice helpful:

  • Ask your health visitor. She sounds quite knowledgeable about BF if she says that you will feel like you're constantly feeding for 2 months :) I'm sure it won't be too late to ask her questions. You might have a phone number for her? If not you should be able to get the central HV phone number by calling your GP's reception and asking. If you don't want to phone or can't find a number, she will visit you again after birth anyway, and you can get her contact details then. She will likely also tell you when the regular baby clinic is which you should be able to see her (or her colleagues) at.

If she can't help you and/or in addition:

If you can't find a group or you need help more urgently:

  • Phone one of the breastfeeding helplines.
National Breastfeeding Helpline – 0300 100 0212 Association of Breastfeeding Mothers – 0300 330 5453 La Leche League – 0345 120 2918 National Childbirth Trust (NCT) – 0300 330 0700

If you are still stuck and you want to try something more:

  • Look for an IBCLC. You can find one through here. But bear in mind that these are private practitioners and may charge. You may also have to travel. Some operate support groups for free/low cost but others don't.

Other general tips:

The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding is only 99p on kindle, you can get a free kindle app on your phone and have it on hand wherever you are. It is worth it IMO. It has decent enough info in it. The name is simply historical (it's an updated version of a pamphlet written in the 60s).

IME, it's too much hassle to express just so your partner can give a feed. That ends up being more work for you than it's worth. Your supply will not disappear if you give an occasional bottle of formula (but definitely wait until your mature milk has come in, preferably a couple of weeks as a minimum) so if you want your partner to take over occasionally to give you a break, personally I'd just do that. Or even just having him care for the baby and then bring him to you to feed and take him away to settle him once he's finished feeding can give you a break too. It's possible to express if you feel very strongly against formula, but it's not the be all and end all. And FWIW it makes no difference when you give a bottle as to whether the baby will refuse it later or not, so there is no rush to introduce one early. Just do so if and when it is more convenient than breastfeeding.

For Dad/baby bonding:
Dad can have a task or routine which is just his e.g. bathing (I like bathing as it has skin to skin and is fun once the baby starts enjoying it plus being in the bath with the baby is a easy way to bath them when they are tiny and wriggly). Or taking the baby for a walk in the sling or pram every evening or something like that.

Let him figure out his own ways to settle the baby sometimes even though the baby will cry - the baby will cry for you too at first so let him go through it as well. It's good for them. My DH ended up with a particular song our baby loves which doesn't work the same when I sing it so we have our own little things.

If you feel like nitpicking over something try to step back and ask if it's really important/wait a while and see how it goes. Sometimes mums fuss and step in and make the dad feel like he isn't allowed to do things his way with the baby. Unless you have safety concerns or he's causing you a problem leave him to it. He will ask if he wants advice. And ask him, if you want to know how he does something.

Make it a priority to leave the baby in the care of her father REGULARLY - even if, at first, it's just for you to have a nap. And don't leave any instructions/preparation (except obviously a bottle of expressed milk if that's what you choose) - if your partner makes decisions about what to feed her, what to take when they go out and so on without your input he'll bond much more and feel much more competent in general. If you leave this too long then you will be really nervous about it and it's so nice to know that you can trust your partner with the baby whenever.

Your questions:

Yes you can hear sucking/swallowing. It sounds sort of like "shluck-shluck-shluck" to begin with. If you can hear clicking or you don't hear the swallowing or you can't keep baby latched, seek advice. IME you have to hold the baby quite rigidly in position when they are tiny but when they get a bit bigger you can be more haphazard. It helps for the early days to have a spare pillow or two, or one of those breastfeeding pillows to assist in positioning.

For me it's always been a bit painful at the start - for about the first 10 days for about the first 10-20 sucks of a feed and then it goes away. The more painful part is that breastfeeding causes uterus contractions which are horrible - but they don't last long either and they do help to reduce post birth bleeding and risk of haemhorrage. Again if it's hurting more than this seek advice. Shields are not the devil but can cause latch issues - don't use them as a preventative. If they are what is helping you carry on then keep using them.

How to cope - learn how to co-sleep safely. It's safer to plan and arrange your bed safely in case you accidentally fall asleep than risk falling asleep feeding in a chair or on a sofa or sitting up in bed or in another unsafe situation. If you stay awake you can move your baby back into her cot.

Yes you can feed as much as you/she wants. You can't overfeed a breastfed baby. If you do decide to give some bottles it's worth looking up paced feeding guidelines to avoid overfeeding with a bottle.

If you seek advice and the person tells you "It looks fine" but you still have pain/difficulty, move down the hierarchy I posted. If they tell you to use formula, that's fine as an interim measure, but move on down the hierarchy. Not all midwives and health visitors have good breastfeeding knowledge. GPs typically have none (it is not covered in their training, so if they have any, it's personal interest). If you ever receive breastfeeding advice you're not sure about, cross check it either with one of the helplines or on a good online breastfeeding support page. Mumsnet has one: Infant Feeding.

From what I can tell from the infant feeding survey, breastfeeding experiences are split into thirds: a third of women have no problems and are able to breastfeed as long as they wanted. A third have problems causing them to stop before they wanted, and a third have problems but are able to overcome them and feed as long as they wanted. So you have about a 2/3 chance of experiencing issues but also a 2/3 chance of everything working out fine. My personal (anecdotal) experience tells me that you're more likely to have everything work out fine if you know when to seek advice and where to seek advice in advance, rather than assuming that the immediately available support is adequate, as it sometimes is not. But you can't realistically do anything to prevent problems happening, they will either happen or they won't. Just take it all one feed at a time and see how things go :)

Good luck! Flowers

Pomfluff · 20/03/2019 22:43

Regarding weight gain, it may be possible that women simply end up eating more calories than what they’re burning during breastfeeding. My appetite was/is insane, even more than during pregnancy.

I also lost weight rapidly but only because my blood sugar numbers didn’t improve that much after gestational diabetes (most likely glucose intolerance or undiagnosed diabetes). So I stuck to the same low-carb, no sugar diet that I did during the third trimester. I was ravenously hungry day and night but couldn’t grab snacks like bananas, cookies or crisps. That combined with breastfeeding really burned up all the fat reserves.

EarlGrayT · 20/03/2019 22:54

You already have a lot of good advice on this thread. I would practice feeding positions and get an idea of what might work for you. I also found a feeding pillow really helpful especially in the early days. I took mine into hospital with me and I’m very pleased I did.

gamerchick · 20/03/2019 22:57

After pains.

Urgh2019 · 20/03/2019 23:02

It might not work or something changes and it might be a good idea to have an emergency stash of something (some ready made formula) just in case.
My milk totally dried up on a Saturday night after everything had closed and DH was driving around all over trying to find somewhere open.

EnchantingRaven · 20/03/2019 23:16

I completely agree on the advice on here, I’ll definitely be coming back to this thread when she’s here - so thank you for the very detailed posts.

@BertieBotts thank you in particular for you very in depth post, I feel so much more at ease after reading this. Great idea on going to the BF groups whilst I’m pregnant too, I realise it was mentioned earlier too but I will definitely do that. Never even thought of it!

I’ll also be downloading the womanly art of breast feeding - needed something to read so ties in nicely. Thanks for everyone recommending that too.

My HV was fab, I don’t have a contact number for her although I’m sure I could get in touch and ask. I’m sure she told me she’ll be round once baby is 10 days old. Think my next actions are getting a Netflix list together so I can sit and feed her, doesn’t help I’ve watched a lot already during pregnancy as I’ve been bed ridden the majority of it!

@Valkarie I was going to ask about BF and lying down technique with small boobs! I’m in the same position with small boobs although a friend of a friend seems to have mastered this and she’s a similar build.

I haven’t bought a next to me cot although I’m beginning to regret that now. I have a Moses basket which will be right next to me and I have one of them ‘baby boxes’ for naps downstairs. I’ve since read newborns can quickly outgrow Moses baskets, should have researched before buying so I think I’ll consider buying a next to me crib then.

OP posts:
jpclarke · 20/03/2019 23:21

Drink plenty of water, if you haven't been taking a probiotic start now and continue to take it. It can help prevent colic. In the early days, drinking loads of water helped to bring in my own milk especially after c-sections. The first 10 days can be very sore when they first latch but count to 10 and the pain should disappear if it doesn't there is a problem with the latch or a tongue tie. Plenty of rest and watch what foods you are eating in the early days, keep to bland enough dirt just so you don't cause any unnecessary wind to the baby. It is difficult, time consuming and exhausting to begin with but it really does get so much easier.

DameSylvieKrin · 21/03/2019 05:03

Clearly the weight loss thing doesn’t work for everyone but it can be dramatic for others. I was a healthy weight before pregnancy, was back to the same weight within a few days and after 4 months I’d lost 2 stone more despite permanent snacking, biscuits, cake etc.

OnlineAlienator · 21/03/2019 05:19

I wish i'd known about oversupply - i had it and i hadnt realised my boobs were trying to drown DD and making her panic Grin theres lots of info about not producing enough but not so much the other way round. I had to google what to do, and that is to reduce demand on each boob by not using either for a few hours - i had 12hr intervals (so using one boob for 12hrs, theb switching) and still managed to feed a greedy baby Shock

For forceful letdown, have a folded muslin over your arm before you start, let the really forceful stuff spray onto that instead of the baby and everything else and start feeding once it's passed!

My letdown stung, but i didnt get mastitis or sore nipples and thanks to cosleeping never felt sleep deprived either!

PirateWeasel · 21/03/2019 05:27

Be prepared for painful engorgement and blocked ducts, especially in the first six weeks. Nobody told me how bad it could be. I couldn't have my DS in a sling or even cuddle him closely because I was too sore. But it gets better after the first couple of months and I'm so glad I powered through. Read up on the signs of mastitis so you know when to get help, and buy a couple of really good bras!

Ca55andraMortmain · 21/03/2019 05:42

With my first baby I was totally overwhelmed with advice and research and I was so tired after the birth that I couldn't keep it all in my head and was freaking out that I'd forget something important about how to latch her. My midwife just said to remember 'tummy to mummy, nipple to nose' and I would repeat that to myself as I latched her. I definitely found remembering to keep her tummy firmly against mine really helped. I'd also agree with going to a bf support group, when if you aren't particularly having any problems. Dd2 is now 9 months old and feeds really well but we go most weeks for a cuppa and a chat because most of my friends FF and it's nice to spend time with people who understand the different demands of breastfeeding and never express horror that dd2 still wakes multiple times a night for milk, that she feeds for comfort when she's fallen over or teething etc and don't keep asking me when I'm planning to wean her. I haven't generally found FF friends unsupportive or anything, it's just really different and they don't always understand that it isn't just milk, so are often surprised that while their newborn took a bottle every three hours, mine wanted to fed for 2 hours and would sleep for twenty minutes and want straight back on. You might hear the words 'oh s/he can't possibly be hungry again!' - try to remember that it's not always hunger that sends them to the boob and also that they will feed much more when they're building up supply before they have a growth spurt.

I would also say that please remember that breastfeeding isn't everything. With dd1 I was so desperate to breastfeed and she had a tongue tie and reflux which made things very difficult. I fed her for 6 months but looking back I do wish I had been easier on myself about it and realised that breast or not breastfeeding has no bearing on being a good mother - I hope it all works out beautifully for you and your lovely baby, but if it doesn't, be kind to yourself.

F1rstT1meMummy · 21/03/2019 05:51

Breastfeeding is like climbing a mountain. The first few weeks are blinking hard work and it does sometimes feel like some sort of endurance test. But. Once you reach the peak it's awesome, and then you get to walk down the other side, which is a whole lot easier!

I've fed three babies. My third was the hardest. If I hadn't known from before how easy it would become, I would have given up a 109 times over.

Go to a latch on group - they are helpful in more ways than one. You meet other mums, they can help and advise you -and you can feed in public if you don't feel too confident.

TTQuestion · 21/03/2019 05:59

I failed at it (stopped after 2 weeks) and these are the mistakes I made in case it helps you not to do what I did:

  1. Not enough skin to skin. She was asleep in her crib thing in the hospital room. Not sure why I didn't have her on me the whole time?
  2. Agreed to visitors on day 1 and 2 home from hospital (or, more accurately they were forced upon me!) again removing time with baby
  3. Didn't realise that the amount you pump (why was I even expressing at that point?!) is no indication of what you're producing. I became fixated on it and was sure I had no milk because only dribbles would come out
  4. Thought because my breasts were soft and never got hard that I had no milk
  5. Didn't anticipate that I would need my husband 24/7 for the first week or so and that we should have arranged for some help with our older children (my step children). We worked this out too late for us.

I, like you, was super determined to do it before I gave birth, went to classes, read all the books, but was completely blind sided by the reality. I would love to have my time again but that said, baby is thriving and happy on formula and that's all that matters to me now.

FlumpyMummy · 21/03/2019 06:05

With DS1 I found it incredibly painful, I was in tears for the first 6 weeks. Things improved when I stopped aiming my boob and let him latch on how he wanted.

With DS2 I applied the same and breastfeeding has been easy and pain free so there must be something in relaxing, let them find it and take it.

Good luck OP

FlumpyMummy · 21/03/2019 06:08

Also, get a breast pump in time for day 3/4 when your boobs become engorged with milk. Mine were so full that DS could not latch on so it will help to drain some off so you can continue to feed.

VelvetPineapple · 21/03/2019 06:11

Totally agree with having a couple of bottles of ready made formula in the cupboard even if you never use it. There were a couple of occasions where I rapidly became so ill I couldn’t feed, so DH had to give formula. And if there had been an emergency where I was whisked away, DH would be able to feed the baby.

In the first week I also thought I had no milk because nothing was coming out when I pumped. Don’t trust the pump! If the baby is swallowing then there is milk!

prettyhibiscusflowers · 21/03/2019 08:36

My biggest mistake was becoming so obssesed with trying to bf dd that when when it wasn’t going to plan, I felt like a failure which then led to early signs of pnd.
Looking back I didn’t enjoy the first 2 months with my baby, I cried constantly. I still maintain, that time was the worst time of my life and I hope I will never feel that low again.
Ultimately I was never going to be able to feed dd due to tounge tie and inverted nipples.
Don’t pressure yourself. And most importantly enjoy your baby.

Claphands · 21/03/2019 08:46

I ended up stopping at 10 weeks because I found it difficult as my DD wriggled and pulled so much, also I formula fed alongside BF as I was never sure if she was getting enough.
I think the one thing I needed to know but didn’t was how you fed them in public, I am quite large chested so it’s not as easy as just whipping them out-I had tops that had the slits in for BFing but they are pretty useless, I’ve since realised most Moms wear a vest and lift up their top and pull the vest down, had I realised that I’d have had the confidence to BF in public and I think I’d have stuck with it.
I did have advice from the BF clinic but it was all latch focussed and I struggled also after a CS as I couldn’t BF without sitting up, the lying down position would have been easier for me in hindsight.

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