Please advise, nearing day 6 of induction.

[Rosley]

Came in on Monday at 3am with complications of OC and reduced movements. Had an emergency scan that showed baby is big and has increased fluid. Sonographer did not pick up baby moving on the scan but said heartbeat was fine.

Monday night the doctor said I would be induced Tuesday morning (when I turned 37 weeks). Had propess in Tuesday morning and had it in 24 hours. It did not work, told by midwife that doctor wanted to try a foley balloon.
11pm Wednesday balloon was fitted and removed 12pm Thursday afternoon. Was told it had not really worked.

I was then left all of Thursday and saw no doctor. This Friday morning (10am) saw the Consultant on their rounds. Begged them for a CSection, told them I am exhausted barely getting 2 hours of sleep each night.

Consultant told me they would not give me a CSection. Allowed Consultant to examine me and they said they could break my waters. Asked me to let them try, I agreed.

I am now still waiting for someone to come and break my waters. Women have been coming in for induction, taking to the propess and are being taken up to the Labour ward. I feel like because i am not progressing they are just leaving me here?

Tonight will be 6 days I have been here, 5 days after they told me my baby needs to come out for it’s health.

Can someone please advise me what they would do in my situation please? I am a first timer and just so exhausted and mentally drained.

That does not sound right. Have you got someone to speak up for you? Have you been having contractions at all?

I had some very minor contractions with the propess on Tuesday night but they were irregular and had stopped by the time I woke up Wednesday morning.

At this point I am honestly so anxious about my baby’s safety. I just do not know how I am going to cope with labour when I have had no sleep for this amount of time. I just keep crying which I know is not going to get me anywhere.

I have my partner here with me tonight and he is not happy about what is happening. But there just doesn’t seem to be anything We can do, we are being ignored.

They cannot refuse you a section. You can refuse further induction and therefore they’ve said the baby needs to come so section it is. If those induction methods aren’t working I’d stop trying with the induction if I were you

Yes . Is there someone who can speak for you sounds awful.

I hope little one is with you soon.

@LegalAdviceNameChange They keep telling me it will be days before I get a C Section as they are so busy. I am worried about what will happen if baby does not arrive soon.

Or the Registrar sees me and says only a Consultant can sign off on it. But then I am waiting another 12 hours for a Consultant to appear. It’s just going round in circles.

I would request a c section. They can put emcs down as by maternal request.
I had a week long labour, started naturally but was augmented at the end, it wasn't going anywhere and I had a grade 2 emcs which they put down as by maternal requested. During the section they said he'd have never come out naturally. The consultant was consulted by phone.
Get your partner/mother to demand to see the consultant or the registrar to speak to them and refuse all other inductions. My partner had to be very forceful to get them act.
I hope your baby arrives soon x

You poor thing. That is a long time to be induced. Time for questions!

With the disclaimer that I'm not a medic - but I was induced and it didn't work (ended up with a section), and so I do know a bit about induction....

If your body hasn't responded to all that, it doesn't sound as though your cervix is very favourable - do you know if you've actually dilated at all from all that? Even just a centimetre? Any contractions? Are you being monitored? Is baby doing ok?

Ask to see a doctor before anything further is done. Ask them what your Bishops score is. I think it goes from 0 to 3. The lower it is, the less favourable your cervix is. Now on the one hand, things could change very quickly. On the other hand, a lower Bishops score is associated with a higher likelihood of a failed induction (ie nothing works, you have to have a section anyway)

I would start asking some hard questions, with a birth partner there to push for answers. You want to find out what is likely to be the safest option for you both, and the option you're most comfortable with.

Ultimately, if you want a section, don't consent to any further interventions. Go into stuck record mode. I want a section. No, I don't consent to having my waters broken. I want a section. I'm worried about how long this is taking and baby needs to come out. I want a section. Grey rock mode. Ultimately, if they want the baby out, then it will have to be a section if you don't consent to further induction.

On the other hand, if you're open to the idea of continuing, ask them what the next step is. If your waters are broken, you're on a timescale. If things don't happen within a certain time frame, what's the next step? (They'll probably say the drip.) Do you consent to that? What happens if you don't? Can you have an epidural sited before they start it? (I would recommend this so you get some rest.) What is the likelihood of you delivering this baby vaginally, and what are the odds of a section being required?

Once your waters are broken there is a risk of infection. So they will want to get the baby out within a certain timeframe.

The above may sound bolshy. It's not intended to be. But it's worth being very clear to staff that you want to know what the options are so you can make an informed decision. Don't settle for them telling you what they're going to do next - you have every right to consent or not.

Good luck - I hope you get some answers. Is anyone there supporting you?

Oh, I see my comments have overlapped with those of others! We're all saying the same thing: push as hard as you can to see a doctor tonight. And if you want a section, insist. Ask what has changed to mean you could be left for days for a section when they've said they want baby out now. Tell them you're worried about baby's safety.

Totally agree you need someone there to voice this and advocate for you. Be very firm! Start complaining, say you will contact PALS agree that you should not consent to anything other than a section. Just awful that they aren’t listening to you :(

That's exactly the same as what happened to me. The consultant in the morning of day 4 said I would have a section if nothing had happened by lunch. Then she went off duty and after lunch registrar (?) said no section as they don't do them in this scenario (in kings - really?) Anyway the next day some random doctor came and broke my waters, he didn't even speak to me, I had no idea what was happening. Still no movement and another 36 hours before I was put on the drip. 12 hours and an epidural later was taken to theatre and for ropes to within an inch of my life, manual placenta removal and third degree tear followed by transfusion. Ph and an infection. She was fineafter antibiotics but that was pure luck I think. No sleep the whole time as was on labour work with three other people since I was admitted.

I would try and push for a c section but if they are as ignorant as my doctors were at Kings at least get them to start you on the drip ASAP. I would be loathe to let them break your waters unless there's a definite timeline as I was just forgotten about I think. And have the epidural.

In fact show them this thread! I should have taken it further afterwards, regret that now as they could treat someone else the same way.

I'm still so angry about it now, hence typos galore!

If you refuse any interventions/examinations I would bet they will do a c section for you.
What a bully the consultant is if you have asked.
Cry. Tell them no more monitoring poking or prodding. You are done. You want a c section and if they continue to withhold this birth option for you and bully you tell them you want pals immediately, or you could threaten to contact the trusts chief executive.
Good luck.
Let us know.

This happened to me and is perfectly normal. Long as you're having CCG ministering to check baby is ok. Once they break your waters they will try the drip which should sped things along. Induction is just a long process

You need to ask for a very specific plan of action. If you want a csection at this point, you need to push and push for it (excuse childbirth pun...). Don't take no for an answer and ask hourly to speak to someone in charge. You have to be (aggressively) assertive in ante and post natal care to get your hands on the limited resources and to get the information that is not always forthcoming.

In the meantime you could look up lots of info on induction and csection to be more prepared for all outcomes.

Ask to speak to the most senior midwife (supervisor of midwives) on duty about a complaint. There is one available 24 hours, don't take no for an answer. Get them to listen to you and be your advocate, they are well placed to help you. It has gone on long enough now.

I was in a similar situation with an induction not working.
I wanted a section. So after advice from here I refused every procedure they suggested ie try induction again, wait 24hours, try to break waters, internal examinations, sweeps etc I just kept saying no, and asking what else.
In the end they suggested a section.

Partner and I are reading all these replies and it has given us a second wind to stand our ground yet again. We are giving the doctors until 10pm to show up (we will have been waiting 12 hours by then). If they don’t show my partner is going to ask to speak to someone in charge. I will update as soon as I can with hopefully some good news.

Good luck @Rosley really feel for you

refuse all intervention.
I was induced it was ok I progressed but for my second nothing was happening and I was sick and tired of them prodding and examining me , and I said if I don't go into labour in the next 24 hours I want a csection. Luckily I did and ended up birthing natural without pain relief but I'd never let them boss me about again. The emotional trauma is not worth it.

Good luck. They really have you going through the mill. Hope your baby in in your arms safely soon.

Goodness me - I could have written this post with my first Dd. I begged for a c-section on day 3 and 4. Having had no sleep and been fed up being told I must be induced as they were concerned about the baby, but yet not so concerned that they would agree a c-section.
In the end, it was a senior midwife who reviewed me on day 5 and was on my side that got me a c-section. Agreeing that I was so exhausted, even if they managed to get me in to labour my chances of having the strength to push was practically non-existent (I managed to get to a whole 4cm in those 5 days and was absolutely fed up of being poked and prodded).
Please complain - if need be phone PALs from the hospital or send your DH to the PALs office and ask to speak to the most senior midwife on duty this evening to sort it out.

It's ridiculous - after that many days and that little sleep, you are then expected to be able to manage to care for a baby, and establishing feeding (however you choose to do it).
It's barbaric that is this day and age women are still expected to put up with this sort of "care" (or lack there of)!.

Hope you get some answers soon

Can you contact the hospital PALS team?

Good luck OP

This is really shoddy treatment

The chances are that if the hospital carries on down this route you'll end up with an em section (I did)

Wishing you well

Contact PALS as a matter of urgency op