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Advice needed on Syntometrine injection and refusing it, pleeeeeeeeease!

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EllieKthePA · 06/04/2007 00:11

Hi
I had the injection after giving birth to ds, it made me very sick and i then had to have further medication to stop the sickness. Unfortunately the anti-sickness medication makes my Narcolepsy (sleep disorder) worse and following it I slept for over 12 hours, meaning ds didn't feed for almost 18 hours after birth. This wasn't too much of a problem, he took to bf absolutely fine and we had no bonding issues.
I am due on Monday and now very worried that the injection could cause the same sickness again. I really do not want to have another child and not remember much of the first day of their life.
As I know it didn't cause huge problems with ds, if i need to i'll have the injection, but if i can avoid it I would like to.
If I refuse the injection, how dangerous is this? What else can I do to lessen the chances of a heavy bleed (my mw tells me this is why i should have it so want to go armed with alternatives)?

HELP!

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lulumama · 06/04/2007 18:19

oh ellie, i will vouch for daisy ( as much as i can for someone i have only communicated with through cyber spacce) but trust me ,she will be a great doula and support, i know she would be a great help to you

yogimum · 06/04/2007 18:20

I wanted to add that I had some great midwifery care! I soppose its luck of the draw who you get on the day, unfortunately, but I think there has been so much bad press lately it must make people a bit wary.

lulumama · 06/04/2007 18:28

i agre yogimum...i think with ellie, without a DH, and no-one else, and purely relying on the luck of the draw re a midwife, and a friend who has not had kids, is probably a little scary

mears..if all midwives were like you, there would be no crisis in midwifery !!

3easterbunniesandnomore · 06/04/2007 18:30

Sorry, haven't read whole of your thread...just wanted to say, that even though you may not got past 2 cm's before needing pain relief...it doesn't mean it has to be the same this time...my es was lots more painful then my ms, who was a breeze, dispite taking the longest i.e. from start to finish...so, there is a chance you will be abler to labour lovely and naturally maybe just with a bit of gas and air, etc...!
Keep an open mind!
And hope you get support sorted out!

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EllieKthePA · 06/04/2007 18:42

i have nothingagainst the mw's, the lady that delivered ds was absolutely lovely, but as it was my community mw that had no idea who i was 2 weeks after examining me, i can't see them being much spport some how.

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manuka · 06/04/2007 18:42

Eat lots of food with vit k in??? thats the blood clotter is't it? Is it in dark leafy veg?

notherereally · 06/04/2007 19:14

daisymoo, that would be lovely, thank you i'll email you when i've stopped crying

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EllieKthePA · 06/04/2007 19:16

sorry, that was me, just wasn't being me for a while

i will email you, have a feeling lulu and klaw would be after me if not (and klaw is a very scary name!)

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Klaw · 06/04/2007 19:22

Yay, EllieK is back and going to email Daisymoo!!!

Yipppeeeeeeeeee!

BTW I am NOT scary in the least but I love cats and my intial and surname make Klaw so it seemed appropriate.....

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EllieKthePA · 06/04/2007 19:23

it's the name of the baddy on inspector gadget

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Klaw · 06/04/2007 19:25

sorry, too old and decrepit for Inspector Gadget... Bagpuss more my era!

Klaw · 06/04/2007 19:29

BTW being tearful at this stage in pg is COMPLETELY normal!

Things set you off for no apparent reason, you have self-doubt etc etc and must be worse for you seeing as you have no other half to give you a much needed hug as and when required.

Have a hug from me!!!!

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EllieKthePA · 06/04/2007 19:29

my ds loves bagpuss, watches it at daddy's house, never seen it myself, being a young'un and all

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colander · 06/04/2007 19:30

I refused it with both DDs and there were no problems.
The m/w with DD2 gave me a very strange look and said "why not?" in quite an aggressive way, but she was a bit of a cow anyway, and by the time DD2 was actually born her shift had finished. Good luck

lulumama · 06/04/2007 19:32

yay ! will be if you get to meet daisyMOO! she is a star!

Original poster
EllieKthePA · 06/04/2007 19:32

so i need to eat lots of spinach [yuck] and time my labour for shift change?

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EllieKthePA · 06/04/2007 19:37

daisymoo, yahoo are saying you don't exist

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Klaw · 06/04/2007 19:53

these young 'uns, like to rub it in don't they??

did you remember to remove all spaces for DaisyMoos address? Silly question I know but sometimes it can be glaringly obvious to others whilst you can't see it, iykwim....

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EllieKthePA · 06/04/2007 19:57

yeah, i retyped it but it didn't like it. did you get the copy?

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lulumama · 06/04/2007 19:58

i got the copy !

Klaw · 06/04/2007 19:59

Yes I did! It looks to me like it might have gone OK to Daisymoo too.... fingers crossed!

Klaw · 06/04/2007 20:03

Ah yes, I replied to all and got a failure notice for Daisymoo, so something not quite right.....

mears · 06/04/2007 20:13

Glad you are back. You don't need to eat anything special with clotting factors in it - you just need to eat healthily

Nature is not daft - once the baby is born, the placenta will deliver itself if left alone. The baby feeding makes the womb contract and the placenta peels off the inside of the womb. It can take longer than if you have an injection but does not mean that you will bleed more.

If, for some reason you do have an epidural then ask for the injection I told you about in my first post - syntocinon. It does the same job as syntometrine but does not make you sick. HTH.

lulumama · 06/04/2007 20:17

i have another email addy for daisy !

TwinklemEGGan · 06/04/2007 20:21

Just wanted to say that I had it written into my birth plan to have a natural third stage - I was very adamant about it. In the end, though, my second stage lasted over 3.5 hours and the midwife strongly recommended me to have the syntocinon injection as I was exhausted and I'd lost a pint of blood already. I can honestly say I didn't care one bit. I didn't feel the injection, I had no side effects and it was all really easy. I think I'd choose a managed third stage next time tbh.