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Share experiences and get support around labour, birth and recovery.

I dont want to give birth

73 replies

obeliaboo · 16/03/2015 21:19

Yes, i know at 36 & 6 its a bit late now.
Ive tried watching videos, and i end up having a panic attack.
I've tried asking my midwife but each one i see has said they would discuss my pain relief options after i attended an ante-natal/parentcraft class.
Well i attended, and i still dont have any idea what to do or a birth 'plan' on my record.
I dont want a c-section, but i dont want to give birth at all.
Im in complete denial. I've never feared pain in the sense of having experienced pain, but having no knowledge of this kind of pain.

Help :(

OP posts:
PacificDogwood · 17/03/2015 20:38

Oh good, do speak really honestly with your midwife.

I know that every labour is different but can I just say that I really 'enjoyed' my labours - maybe not every second of every actual contraction Grin, but the overall experience was really exhilarating. And the post-natal tea and toast high is just awesome!

It's interesting what you are saying about 'setting yourself up for failure'. I think there's something in that for many people. There is such a fine line between having all the information and totally freaking yourself out tbh.
Because of that, I never had a birth plan because I decided I wanted to go with whatever felt right at the time.
I've known a number of women who thought they might want every drug known to medicine who had pretty drug-free births, and vice versa.
I thought I'd want to move around and be on all fours and push/deliver crouching down when actually with DS1 all I wanted was to lie flat on my back and get an epidural. My VBACs were totally different and I did not at any point want anything more than G+A.

Keep an open mind about how you are going to feel on the day.
Trust your body - chances are that it will know just fine what to do.
You want to be left alone in a dark room with DP and MW? Well, have you explored the option of a home birth??

Admittedly, I was very unbothered about the 'strangers in the room' (I just did not care), but I did always feel listened to, so don't expect to feel out of control and powerless. Have a good 'advocate' with you - your DP, your sister, a doula, your best friend: somebody who knows what you want and who is able to speak up for you when you cannot/are busy breathing.

I really hope you get the delivery you can look back on with amazement and pride, whether it's with or without drugs/whale music/epidurals/hypnotherapy/instrumental theatre delivery/scented candles.

Good luck Thanks

SoMuchForSubtlety · 18/03/2015 09:36

You can prep your birth partners to help you as well, if they understand your needs and your fears. DH was under strict instructions to prevent strange HCPs from talking to me or coming near me until appropriately vetted re their intentions because I get terrible white coat syndrome and doctors make me nervous (don't trust them).

Jackiebrambles · 18/03/2015 09:43

I think you should maybe talk to your midwife about a homebirth?

You would feel safe in your own environment and a midwife would come to you and bring gas and air.

Clarabell33 · 18/03/2015 10:02

The only thing i have considered as a last resort is an epidural but the idea of not being able to move is part of what sets me off into blind panic; i dont want to be stuck on a bed on my back and immobile.

OP, ask about mobile or light epidurals. I hadn't heard of these before antenatal classes and won't claim to be any sort of expert or have any experience (37+5 with DC1) but apparently with a lighter epidural you can be at least slightly mobile as they don't affect your legs as much. You probably won't be walking the corridors as I'd first thought it meant but at least you'd not be stuck flat on your back in bed - you may be able to shift position from lying to all fours or at least roll over. I got the impression that whilst not everywhere offers this, many hospitals do, so worth finding out now if that would help set your mind at rest.

obeliaboo · 18/03/2015 11:17

I really dont want a homebirth, i'd feel much safer in hospital - i've been asked why and i think its just down to being in that environment. Which is probably daft haha, but i just dont want to give birth at home. I think my partner pretty much has the gist of my do's/don'ts/wants etc, he's pretty good - he has a little list anyway, just incase.

MIL mentioned a mobile epidural but i've yet to find out if my labour ward offers it! I'm going on a tour of the ward tonight so i'll have to ask.

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DaffyDuck88 · 18/03/2015 23:07

Hope your tour of the hospital went well OP and that it has reassured you some. You really can't fail at this, its just not possible. We all get through it whatever way we can and using whatever drugs (or not) that we need. Whatever you choose on the day will be right because thats whats right for you. Remember that none of us are textbook, so go with whatever option makes you the most comfortable and do you know what? You can even change your mind! I did hypnobirthing and it got me to fully dilated before we arrived at the hospital and into the pool. MW offered gas & air - I tried it and it helped me enormously. In truth I never thought anything would make the birth 'pain free' I was more concerned about managing my own panic and as it happened hypnobirthing worked for me almost to the end. I've never felt I failed for using additional pain relief, I made a gorgeous baby girl!

Gruntbaby · 19/03/2015 12:32

just because it's a hospital birth doesn't mean it has to be all bright lights and one born every minute. I couldn't have a water birth but I spent most of my labour in a deep bath, at home and then at the hospital.

We explained to the MW that we were doing natal hypnotherapy, turned off all the lights, put the cd on and I got in the bath at the hospital to do yoga moves, completely naked.

MW knew we didn't want much intervention and crept in every 15 mins or whatever to check the baby, didn't say a word, I didn't even have to get out of the water, she gave me a thumbs up each time but didn't interrupt my 'bubble'. No one barged in or anything. During transition when my partner, who was stroking my hair, needed a wee, I didn't even notice because she stroked my hair instead. She barely spoke but made it clear she could spend more time with me if I wanted and was available to give pain relief if needed.

I did need some intervention and emergency surgery after, but look back on it as a very positive experience.

Minesril · 19/03/2015 13:44

Don't feel like you have to 'wait until it's really bad' before asking for an epidural. Ask for it as soon as you arrive at hospital if you want!

NakedFamilyFightClub · 19/03/2015 13:59

Hope your tour went well obeliaboo.

I found a TENS machine brilliant for pain relief at home before we went to the hospital, so that's worth looking into, if you haven't considered it.

obeliaboo · 19/03/2015 16:37

Tour went well! A little more relieved seeing that it wasn't all bright lights as Gruntbaby says, and that the room can be dimmed considerably!
I have snooped at TENs machines, yes! I'm just a little clueless as to which one to get as my budget is a bit tight, and renting one seems to cost as much as some do to purchase outright :S
I'll just pour my wee heart out next week to the midwife pain relief wise and see what she suggests. I know in my heart, that i truly do not want dopermine/pethidine whichever it is, but gas and air, yes - and mobile/epidural if i can't take it!

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pookamoo · 19/03/2015 16:42

Hi,
This article came up in my fb newsfeed today. It's lovely - very empowering.

I found the Marie Mongan hypnobirthing book very good, too.

Good luck with it all. Smile

NakedFamilyFightClub · 19/03/2015 17:54

Smile it's definitely worth asking your midwife, my hospital lent the TENS machine out for free

MrsPeabody · 19/03/2015 18:34

For my birth plan I just wrote that I wanted to see what the pain was like and what position the baby was in. Ideally birthing pool and natural birth, but happy to work my way through all available pain relief Wink

You can put your hopes and realistic expectations in your plan without setting yourself up to fail. The unknown is scary. I was in denial until dh made me go the hospital Grin

Make sure you have a proper chat with your midwife though.

gallicgirl · 20/03/2015 04:34

I can definitely recommend a tens machine. Think I hired mine from natures gate for about £25.

If there's a birth pool you can use, then do so. I had my DS at weekend and the relief when I got in the pool was immense.

Good luck and remember YOU CAN DO THIS.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 20/03/2015 05:01

I had dreadful Birth Fear (not to the phobic level but still) and I found Hypnobirthing pretty much knocked it on the head completely.

Hypnobirthing is designed to start later in pregnancy, usually around 34 weeks, so you're not too much later than that - look into having private sessions if you can afford it to get it all in before you're due.

I didn't find it helped massively with the actual pain relief, but it certainly helped me to understand what was happening, why and what I had to do to facilitate it.

Salene · 20/03/2015 05:05

I doubt anyone does but honestly it's not that bad. I had my first baby 6 months ago and was terrified

I got induced 2 days early and on the morning I was due in hospital I was sat at home in floods of tears refusing to go as was so scared. Of course I did go in the end as had no choice this baby was coming one way or another

Anyway it's no where near as bad as you think and I tell you this id rather give birth 10 times over than endure 9 months of pregnancy again

Believe me you have nearly completed the worse bit.

Salene · 20/03/2015 05:07

Should of added I rented a tena machine and thought it was useless , after 5 mins I binned it off. I used gas and air, also had a morphine injection. They both defo helped.

CheerfulYank · 20/03/2015 05:09

I understand completely...I'm almost 30 weeks with DC3 and I don't want to do it either! :)

But you can. I know you can. It helps immensely that you have no choice.

My doctor is quite good too. No nonsense when I need her to be but really funny and warm too. That helps. And I dimmed the lights with both of my previous labors. I just kept reminding myself that it's only a day, just one day out of my life. And I can do anything for a day.

EssexMummy123 · 20/03/2015 18:29

Not every labour starts like period pain and not every labour has breaks between contractions, mine was full-blown straight away with a back-back baby and no amount of tens/deep baths / gas&air made any difference.

Honestly - tens, what a stupid invention distracting yourself by minor electrical pin-picks and then having to remove the sticky pads to jump in the bath, i'm sure it works for some but i just found it irritating. The distraction of jumping in and out of the bath probably helped more.

What helped me was how confident and supportive the midwives were. I've read recently that doulas really help as well.

Borttagen · 20/03/2015 18:38

I'm laughing at Essex above and glad someone said it's not always a slow build up. I thought I had my plan all worked out for my third but ended up having a drug free 'natural' birth. Yes I got through it but I wouldn't plan it that way again. It was bearable because it was over so quickly.
Look into things but don't have anything fixed in your mind as every birth is different and there is no shame in changing your mind. See how you feel about pethidine when in labour. Personally I feel the most important things are that mum and baby are both ok afterwards and I wouldn't be planning on putting myself through a natural birth again (I'm not traumatised by it but I've had an epidural and loved it!)

unlucky83 · 20/03/2015 20:28

Tens in labour ...I got lent one by the hospital (most of my labour for DD1 was on the ward - not something I wanted to repeat for DD2 -and didn't.)
I also thought it was rubbish...but...
We bought one for my dad (shoulder pain) and he wouldn't use it - but when I was visiting my back went ...hasn't for ages, bit of a surprise - I'd say pain is akin to the worst labour contractions. I didn't have my heavy duty painkillers with me, so decided to give it a go and after I got used to using it I thought it was fantastic. With it on I could walk around etc no painkillers ...without it every step was agony. And as it it gradually got better again I could turn it down/up as required. Not sure how you get used to it before labour though -took me a day or so ...partly just getting used to the strength of the 'shocks' to turn it up enough to actually work.

MrsPeabody · 20/03/2015 21:54

As unlucky is being so honest. I had a pethadine birth and a natural birth and preferred the 'distance' the pethadine gave me. I was set against it during my antenatal classes Smile

MrsPeabody · 20/03/2015 21:54

Oops Bort, not unlucky. Though I'm sure you are honest too!

unlucky83 · 20/03/2015 23:54

Grin I did wonder....

BigCatFace · 21/03/2015 20:46

You can move with an epidural! You can't get up but you can move your legs. I was upright for most of my labour :)