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Cardiac arrest during elective caesarian section. Nevergoogle in need of a bit of support.

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nevergoogle · 06/04/2014 23:07

DS3, who is a lovely bundle of loveliness, arrived by elective c-section a week ago.

For unknown reasons (so far) I had a cardiac arrest during the surgery where my heart slowed to a complete stop. I was resuscitated with CPR and adrenaline before surgery was completed and I was transferred to intensive care. All tests so far point to an otherwise healthy heart. (Usual obs monitoring, ECG's and US)

In time I will be having follow up input from cardiology/anaesthetics/obgyn/perinatal mental health team/intensive care psychology. I'm now home wearing a 24 hour heart trace.

We haven't announced this in RL (apart from close friends and family), so if you know me please be discrete, we're still getting our heads around what happened.

But just WTF? How do I process this? How do I rebuild myself, DH and I feel completely steamrollered. All the while DS3 is BFing on demand 2 hourly, and I have all the usual c-section recovery to contend with. The other two children aren't aware but are starting to question why I keep crying and me saying I'm just so happy to be their mum is being met with Hmm.

I have zero concentration, tv/radio/music is just noise, I can't face phonecalls/visitors and apart from a birth announcement on facebook I just can't do it. I'm not even sure i'm ready for this thread so may bow out if it gets overwhelming.

On the upside, DH and I are being spectacularly kind and patient with each other and the children. We are having lots of quality time and keeping life simple and there is an atmosphere of calm in between my moments of despair and sobbing.

Anybody been through similar?

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MissUumellmahaye · 10/04/2014 12:56

Blimey he is exceptionally cute. Flowers for all the nevergoogle family.

I had PTSD after giving birth, my HV was absolutely fantastic. The debrief was also very helpful, so it's good you're following up on those.

How is your DH? He must have been terrified.

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moonblues · 10/04/2014 12:56

Just had to post to say he is totally gorgeous. Sorry you had such a traumatic time. Remember to take things slowly and be kind to yourself.

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showtunesgirl · 10/04/2014 12:57

OP, sorry to hear your story.

I would recommend joining the Birth Trauma Association facebook page where you may find others who have had similar experiences.

I have found it beneficial to speak with other mothers who have also been through traumatic experiences.

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UniS · 10/04/2014 12:59

congratulations on the arrival of littlest . hope the other two are enjoying being big n sensible chaps. I'll pm you.

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nevergoogle · 10/04/2014 13:14

the other two are being incredible. although they haven't been told anything other than the prep I gave them for the c-section recovery, they are being incredibly well behaved and lovely. i had prepared them for catheters, maybe drips, me not walking and for me to be in pain. of course the reality was this in extreme, they seemed reassured by my 'oh that, that is just counting my heart beats, that's what they do for new mummies'. they don't know any different. when i'm feeling ready we'll have a brief chat about how I was a bit more ill than normal and that's why we've been a bit more stressy.

DS1 is like a mother hen sitting watch over his baby brother and says he never realised how tiring it would be! (despite 10 hour long sleeps!)

UniS, we've had to set up the rollers in the garden to keep DS1 happy while we're stuck at home more than usual. They've gone out to a soft play place this morning with DH to burn off some energy.

i'm managing out for a walk along the path every day which helps my back and rib pain and the fresh air and sunshine is pure therapy. had to oblige to wearing a walkie talkie which i clipped to the back of my trousers. the kids made farting noises and played 'i like big butts' down the walkie talkie providing me with offensive musical trousers Grin.

my god my children are amazing. i cannot die. cannot derail their amazingness.

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StealthPolarBear · 10/04/2014 13:27

Well you are going to die one day. In your 90s or maybe hundreds after playing football with the great grandchildren.
Maybe :)
In the next few weeks surelytheyll start to figure out what caused it and if youre at any hjgher risk and if you are, what you can do. Nosey question so feel free to ignore but were you wanting any more children after his chubby-cheekedness?

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nevergoogle · 10/04/2014 13:39

i wasn't really wanting any more 'before' his chubby cheekedness. this one is a late to the party gatecrasher. lovely though!

DH plans to find a couple of bricks in the garden so we can do a home vasectomy. i think i would normally have been upset at the finality of that but after what happened, i cannot risk not being here for my children. so no, no more!

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PeachyTheSanctiMoanyArse · 10/04/2014 13:49

I also had PTSD after having my eldest, I almost died as did he (eclampsia), and as it happened to be over the millenium we were rather left to get on with it. I thought I had done, until i realised it had been quite the opposite, some time after ds2 had been born.

My only real advice is to give yourself as much time emotionally as it takes. It's a shock, perhaps more so when giving birth than other times as it's supposed to be such a happy event, about immortality and not death. It can also make us aware, sometimes for the first time, of our own vulnerability or dredge up memories of people we did lose, and the only remedy for that is time with support.

Congrats on your new baby

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UniS · 10/04/2014 15:17

tiverton hospital are very good at vasectomys, better long term outcome than two bricks. Dh was back on his bike after 10 days.

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nevergoogle · 10/04/2014 15:34

ah that's important as you know!

10 years ago when we announce we were pregnant with DS1, his mother's first reaction was 'what? and after all that cycling??!!' I think she'd assumed there would be no grandchildren from DH. Smile

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AngryFeet · 10/04/2014 15:35

Have they tested for Long QT syndrome?

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nevergoogle · 10/04/2014 15:35

the boys are currently drawing black and white contrast pictures for the baby. Smile

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nevergoogle · 10/04/2014 15:39

i don't know angry feet. there was a lot of testing going on but it was a bit of a blur. if it's relevant there was no fibrillation. just a slow to a complete stop. i assume it wouldn't have been shockable.

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Mama1980 · 10/04/2014 16:21

Hi I just came across this in active convos and couldn't not reply
Congratulations on your beautiful baby Thanks
I'm so sorry hear of everything you went through. I went through sort of similar, (I arrested twice during my emergency c section and was in icu for weeks) the best thing advice I can think of if to be gentle with yourself, your dh sounds lovely, and laughter really does help. (The knickers comment made me laugh out loud Smile)
It took a long while for me to begin to feel like myself again, not necessarily a bad thing I don't think, I'm happier actually, and though it sounds a terrible cliche that feeling of being so grateful for what I have hasn't faded over time.
I also found a full debrief with the drs and talking on here helped immensely.
Please feel free to pm me if you'd like to chat.

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nevergoogle · 10/04/2014 16:38

i think that's where i'm at at the moment. I've never felt so contented with everything the way it is.

it really does help to know i'm not the only one to have experienced this and that there needn't be a lifetime of ptsd to look forward to.

i've never really recovered from ds1's traumatic birth and subsequent illness. he was born by emcs, blue for 5 minutes, then grunting. diagnosed with group b strep pneumonia and treated for meningitis. tube fed, unable to be held, dreadful problems feeding due to breathing problems before finally establishing bf at 8 weeks by which time he'd lost a lot of his 9lb birth weight. meanwhile i had developed septicaemia.

for me that feels more traumatic than my arrest. sick baby trumps sick me everytime.

do you think maybe childbirth and i don't mix? Confused

ds2 was fine btw. textbook elcs.

i don't want chiildbirth trauma to get in the way of just getting with my job as mum and enjoying my babies. i just won't stand for it dammit. Grin

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PacificDogwood · 10/04/2014 18:10

Aw, your latest LittleDragon is just absolutely edible
The sight of his chubby newborn cheeks could almost make me broody… …. naaaa! I am SO done, like you wouldn't believe Grin. There's great freedom and certainty in that feeling, so I hope that your don't feel robbed in any way by recent events.

And I totally get what you mean about sick baby trumping sick self - I've felt the same with DS2's premature delivery.

You sound so totally blissed out - long may it continue Cake

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SlinkyB · 10/04/2014 19:07

Just popped on to see how you were. The pics of your ds are lovely! He looks perfect. We have more in common now too, as I suffered with months of hyperemesis last year, and my ds was born by elcs weighing 8lb 4oz, and is the 3rd boy in our home Smile

Gosh your ds1's birth story is scary too. Mine was just emcs due to undiagnosed breech. Chose an elcs this time as it was/is to be my last baby and wanted a happy, peaceful birth experience....ah well, you can't always get what you want eh? So I too think I don't suit pregnancy or childbirth. We're looking into a vasectomy for dh in due course but we're sticking to abstinence for now.

Can I ask if ds1 has any long-term health problems from his meningitis please? (Don't worry if you'd rather not say, I'm just intrigued as obviously that is what I was in ICU with).

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nevergoogle · 10/04/2014 20:41

thankfully the gbs never made it to spinal fluid/meningitis, 'only' the lungs. the antibiotics given were at meningitis doses though.

he had a lot of breathing/respiratory problems in the first year. hospitalised with bronchiolitis etc

now aged 9, he cycles competitively and is all about sport.

for long enough his birth left me feeling unlucky. the odds of prolonged rupture of membranes, foetal distress, GBS infection were so slight. why me? i now see that we are lucky.

and again this time!

narrowly escaping complete tragedy might be my 'thing' Smile

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SlinkyB · 10/04/2014 21:03

It is weird being told we're "lucky" isn't it?! But I know we are.

Mama how long ago was your experience? I agree laughter is the best medicine. I've had my debrief from the hospital (ds 12 weeks old) but it was with a consultant obgyn, so nothing about the time spent in icu. Wasn't offered any counselling either so not sure if I should look into that.

never that knicker comment from your dh made me laugh too!

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StealthPolarBear · 10/04/2014 21:50

Buy a lottery ticket. Maybe it works the other way too.
I'll have a 10% cut of winnings thanks
btw I still remember your thread aboit nessie hunting. You have inspired me and I think that will be our holiday next year. Kids will be old enough to 'get' it but still young enough for it to be magical. Youve inspired me!
Might see you there with a chubby cheeked one year old calling the shots?

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nevergoogle · 10/04/2014 21:56

you may see us there. i'm hoping to spend a few weeks in nessie hunting territory over the summer. i don't remember the thread though Confused

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nevergoogle · 10/04/2014 21:57

sorry i see next summer, skim reading!

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FourArms · 11/04/2014 19:34

I had the heart slowing and BP crashing after DS1 was born (by EMCS). It left me in a bit of a state for a while and I suppose it's only sometime in the last few years that I'm 'OK' with it.

I hope your debrief etc is more helpful. I feel silly being on ADs for PND / PTSD 10 years on, but it's better than feeling the way I used to.

Best wishes to you all.

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nevergoogle · 15/04/2014 00:34

just checking in. been struggling with rib pain. called GP on friday to request stronger pain relief and of course triggered some emergency response to chest pain and they sent a bloody paramedic. ecg done again, blood pressure, blood sugars, temp etc all fine.
then telephone consultation with gp, who finally visited 3 hours later to examine me and to agree that my pain is musculoskeletal from the cpr.

was prescribed codeine, which didn't touch it, so i doubled the dose which did help but i think it made baby sleepy so had to stop.

it will settle in time i'm sure, but ouch. wearing a heat pack around my rib and trying to limit use of left arm, stretching up to cupboards etc.

grr.

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MinesAPintOfTea · 15/04/2014 06:11

Sometimes the system is bonkers.. And that skins unpleasant, hope it passes soon.

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