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Did you have an epidural? If so, would you again?

114 replies

firstimer30s · 29/12/2013 16:41

Would very much like one as want the full whack on pain relief. Did anyone have and would recommend OR has any advice for things to watch out for?
Thanks!

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Ericadm · 03/01/2014 16:41

I had one with my first. At the time it was bliss but I ended up with forceps and bad tear. I will try and avoid with second if possible.

Teapig · 03/01/2014 19:36

Yes I did have one and hell yes I'd have one again. I was induced and it definitely helped but didn't take all the pain away as I had expected.

Ushy · 05/01/2014 13:53

100% yes Regarding the 'being in control' issue, I know I was far more in control with the epidural because I wasn't freaked out with agonising pain.
I just don't understand how you can feel more in control if you are nearly losing your mind in unendurable, mind blowing pain. I felt like a wounded animal thrashing round after a road accident. The birth with the epidural was dignified, calm and peaceful.

Ushy · 05/01/2014 14:44

One more thing - epidurals don't increase your chances of ending up with perineal trauma. You are about 7% more likely to have an instrumental delivery with an epidural for a first vaginal birth and abut 3% for a subsequent one but you have a reduced risk of spontaneous serious tears as the 'push' response is damped down. I didn't realise until I read up on the research (part of my job to do this so I did quite a lot of browsing during my pregnancies). The most serious tears are caused by normal births where the woman has an uncontrollable urge to push. Epidurals damp this urge down so all in all, there is marginally lower (certainly not increased) perineal trauma. As others have said, though, don't let them tail off the epidural at the end as you lose this advantage. The last bit is often the most painful and it is when you need the epi most.
I experienced the anti pain relief lobby myself and had to be super firm with the midwife. I had to be borderline rude to get one. Very sad and a very poor reflection on midwife training.

gamerchick · 05/01/2014 14:49

Did with first.. not a chance in hell would I have one again. The second just used gas and air and the was a much better birth. Third was induction and just gas and air and practically enjoyed myself.

Sex was never the same again with the intervention that went with the epidural.

I don't even know why I reply to these questions.. its not as if any answer is going to change the OP mind Grin

sparklythings01 · 05/01/2014 15:48

I had one and could not feel to push so ended up with forceps which caused huge problems. I would do my best to avoid this next time.

Seriously2712 · 06/01/2014 23:18

Yes and yes! 43 hr labour, ventouse delivery, episiotomy and 3rd degree tear!!! But still YES!!

Windywinston · 06/01/2014 23:33

Didn't set out to have one but a long back to back labour and no sign of any progress meant I reached my limits. Best thing I ever did as it meant they could get me on a syntocin drip and get things moving, which was good for baby who was becoming distressed.

I did end up with an episiotomy and ventouse delivery, but I believe that was more to do with baby's position and urgency to get her out (only got 20mins to try pushing) because she was distressed than because of the epidural.

Currently 20weeks with DC2 and don't intend to have an epidural as I would like to avoid intervention if I can, but if labour goes the same way as last time I will have one without hesitation.

I think the point is that every woman is different and every labour is different, you don't know if you'll need it until you're in labour and you know how it's all going. Keep an open mind to all pain relief, it's there for a reason. Good luck!

ZingChoirsOfAngels · 06/01/2014 23:51

yep.
had epidural 4 times out of 6 (one came too fast, one was ELSC)

#7 is due in July "wants Epidural" is already in my notes.
it's my best friend. mwah

Ihavemyownname · 07/01/2014 00:08

I had one and it didnt work I felt everything I also had a drip to bring on my contractionn after not dialting any futher for hours and baby being distressed just after I felt like I need to pushed and was told to hold on for an hour [hour]

Ihavemyownname · 07/01/2014 00:08

I had one and it didnt work I felt everything I also had a drip to bring on my contractionn after not dialting any futher for hours and baby being distressed just after I felt like I need to pushed and was told to hold on for an hour Hmm

HazleNutt · 07/01/2014 15:46

Yes, but one that works, thanks very much. As someone said before, nobody told me they might not work and when I kept saying that it made my legs funny, but it didn't make any difference, nurses kept fobbing me off with "oh well it can still hurt a little, it's normal!".
Induced labour with not even a minute between contractions, hurt a little my arse. Angry
Didn't have any issues pushing or with recovery though.

So yes I would have another, but if that does not work, I will personally go hunt down the anaesthetist and make them do it again.

NotCitrus · 07/01/2014 16:17

I had one twice - first time the labour was fine except for making my SPD even worse (apparently this is very rare), and once water and g+a didn't cut it, it was the only option even though I was terrified of it. Worked very well but labour was very slow both before and after, which led to a few issues.

Second time thanks to various issues I got the epidural within an hour of getting to hospital. They couldn't get me onto all fours to push at all that time as my legs were totally jellified, so needed ventouse again.

Again long labour probably not helped by the epidural, so I wouldn't start by planning one as it can lead to more intervention being needed, but very glad they were available.

One odd side effect is getting involuntary shivers for a couple days after - very glad I'd been warned about that.

Alexchallex · 12/01/2014 16:57

Yes and couldn't feel a thing. Was amazing. Afterwards I had to have a cathedar for 24 hours as lost the ability to wee. I'm not 100% sure that the epidural caused it but I suspect it did.

Alexchallex · 13/01/2014 08:24

Oh and had ventouse. Again not necessarily due to the epidural but I suspect it may have been. Still would do again as I felt like I was going to die from the pain. But I know lots of people who have had a quick labour, or not felt the pain as bad so didn't need an ep

AntoinetteCosway · 13/01/2014 08:36

I had one and I'm hoping not to have another. I failed to progress over about 72 hours so was induced with the drip and was exhausted by that point and scared of the pain of induced labour so asked for one.

The person who put it in got it wrong twice and had to get someone more senior to come and tell her how to do it; it then didn't work and the midwives didn't believe me. They kept saying 'can you feel this' and pressing on my stomach and then looking bemused when I said yes. They also kept going on about how feeling pressure is normal and I kept telling them it was proper pain. Eventually they gave up and just have me gas and air which helped. My legs were totally numb but nothing else was Confused

DD ended up stuck with shoulder dystocia which I believe was the result of the induction, epidural and labouring on my back as a result of those two. I can't be 100% sure but she wasn't large and neither was I. She nearly died and it was terrifying.

When they came to stitch me up I screamed and one of the midwives said, 'my goodness, you really can feel everything can't you!' and gave me some local anaesthetic thank god.

It was horrible.

Xmasbaby11 · 13/01/2014 10:14

I had one with DD after 30 hours of agony because I needed to be induced and forceps. It was the only thing that took the pain away, so yes of course I would have it again. Although of course there is still a sensation, so I could still feel DD being pulled out of me. I had a prolapse following this, but this was because of prolonged labour before epidural. I wish I had had the epidural much sooner as it might have made the experience more bearable, and the outcome better for me.

claudeekishi · 15/01/2014 22:21

I had one and my experience was same as ushy's. Had been very anti epi pre labour but epi gave me back such control. No forceps or ventouse required. No stitches. Breastfed within minutes.

All of that said,I know there are risks. I would consider having one again but would try to go without.

Dromedary · 15/01/2014 22:29

I was very happy to have the hours of complete pain relief that it afforded. I see no point in going through intense agony for many hours if it's unnecessary.
Having said that, I did afterwards wonder to what extent it contributed so some complications, including forceps delivery, and I was a bit out of it when they asked me for my consent. Because you don't feel what's going on you don't push in the right way I think.

AmeliesFabulousDestiny · 07/04/2014 12:57

Yes and Yes! I thought I had to reply to this because as my husband pointed out after the birth, what you really want to know is what percentage of women would have an epidural the second time around, not the first. Wink

Well I had a long first labour, so I got to try it with and without pain relief, and can honestly say nothing worked better than the epidural:

  • 36 hrs at home with nothing and TENS (that was ok for slow early labour), then 17 hours active labour in birth centre/hospital, of which:
  • First 5 hours in birth centre with TENS, bath, and gas & air (the latter didn't work at all, just made me feel awful; begged to be transferred to delivery suite because the pain got unbearable at 5cm)
  • The next 5 hours in the delivery suite with diamorphine injection as no one was available to give me an epidural (I was high as a kyte and kept talking rubbish, but at least I got some sleep; baby was very sleepy after birth though, which I think is a side-effect...)
  • The final 7 hours with epidural, which I got when I was 8cm (no, it's not too late, and I'm glad I did. Complete bliss. I could push ok, just needed ventouse for a bit at the end due to baby's head going in and out and contractions getting irregular, but don't think that was due to epidural, just the sheer length of time; small 2nd degree tear, quick recovery).

You don't need to make up your mind in advance though. I thought I wanted a minimal pain relief labour - as evidenced by starting out in the birth centre - but I know now that's not for me, so will be asking for delivery suite and epidural with the second. However, some women don't seem to feel the pain so much and/or have quick labours, even the first time around (lucky I say). Keep it flexible and don't be wedded to any hard rules. Good luck!

Jcb77 · 08/04/2014 19:22

I'm also a first timer, looking at an induction :( and wondering about an epidural. I plan to see how it goes but have one if it all gets too much (especially if I end up on syntocinon infusions).
The risks of an epidural are small, but definitely there. However the benefits are also great, when they work well.
Yes, the intervention rate is greater with epidurals (goes from about 7-14%) so not by any means 'most women' who have an epidural. The incidence of section is not increased (some old papers from a few decades ago have suggested this but times and epidurals have changed and more recent work challenges this). Ditto chronic back pain. You can be a bit sore or bruised in the back for a few days but long term back ache is just as likely with or without an epidural. Studies looking at thousands of women draw this conclusion.
There is a probably, as several pps have said, a correlation between increased intervention and epidurals. However this is NOT the same thing as causation. A big or badly positioned baby is more likely to result in a slower or obstructed labour, increased pain and augmentation. All of which mean a woman is more likely to request an epidural. However the epidural doesn't 'cause' the size of the baby, or it's position necessarily, but they are associated with it. On case-by-case basis it can be difficult to pick out the difference between the chicken and the egg... Again studies looking at large cohorts make the picture clearer.
Undoubtedly epidurals do cause some problems in some women. They can make it more difficult to feel to push properly, make you immobile, require continual foetal monitoring and make you itchy and shaky. And they take a while to wear off. The effect on the baby is however very small and in fact returning some physiological normality to the mother by reducing her pain can also reduce stress markers in the baby (Felicity Reynolds, a very well respected obstetric anaesthetist) has published on this).
From reading some posts, it's clear that there is sometimes confusion between an epidural for labour, an epidural that is 'topped up' for surgery and a spinal anaesthetic. They all involve a needle in the back but they are not the same and have different side effects. An epidural purely for analgesia in labour uses a much weaker solution. Yes, if it's in for hours your legs will undoubtedly get very heavy, but not in the same way that a spinal for theatre will. Labour epidurals also often wear off much more quickly.
It's easy to blame an epidural for bladder/pelvic floor problems (it seems to make sense...) but again, having a long labour with a baby's head crushing the nerves that supply such areas against your pelvic brim and stretching the muscles if your pelvic floor, especially if an intrumental delivery is involved, is much more likely to cause such problems. Catheters are inserted because your bladder goes numb too and you can't tell if you need a wee. An overdistended bladder is not good. Catheters themselves per se don't cause problems (potentially a route for infection but not causing nerve damage).
About 15% of epidurals don't work completely. There isn't always an obvious reason (and to be honest it's bloody amazing the ever work at all - google epidurogram- it's a jungle in there!). And there are risks of nerve damage that gets better (1/2000) that is permanent (1/10000) and paralysis (1/200000) and post epidural headache (1/100). The vast majority if headaches will be due to dehydration/tiredness/hormones/screaming baby though - not the epidural!
So I suppose in summary they aren't perfect, some women don't like the fairly common side effects (numb legs and not being able to feel to push so well - but that doesn't mean it can't be done) and there are some really very small risks of more serious complications. They don't cause all the bad things they're commonly accused of though by quite a stretch.
For many women they are an absolute godsend and turn a hideous terrifying time into something much more manageable.
I'd plan to not have one if I don't need but definitely go for it if I do.
Oh - and having seen many hundreds of women after an epidural, the vast majority say thank you, they'd have one again please, a few say thanks but no thanks (usually because of mobility or incomplete pain relief) and a very very few actually have long term problems that are very clearly the result of the epidural alone.
The obstetric anaesthetist website has a very good, up to date section on epidurals for those of you wanting references and further info.

TerrifiedMothertobe · 08/04/2014 20:06

Had an epidural with first baby as he was wrong way round, labour was 36 hours from first contraction to delivery and took about 24 hours to get from 3-10 cm dialated, wasn't a great birth but epidural saved me. I could never have done it naturally.

Second baby was under 2 hours from first contraction to birth, I planned on epidural but there was no time, but actually gas and air was fine.

So, I would say, be open to anything, you don't know what's going to happen and you don't know your pain threshold.

I would have an epidural again. Although recovery wasn't as good (uti from catheter).

Do what's best for you, we are all different.

NomDeClavier · 08/04/2014 20:38

I didn't but after DC1's birth I would be wary of planning one immediately. My OB came by afterwards and said it was a good thing I hadn't had the epidural as size/position would have meant a CS had I not been able to be mobile and push (although my pushing is apparently technically an expulsion reflex so might happen anyway with an epi). I have nothing against them - I live in epidural central (87% at my local hospital, DC2 was the first birth that MW had ever attended where an epi was not requested, most of the 13% are fast labours or unsuitable for epi or CS under GA) - but I can't get past the whole needle/spine thing.

Em2010 · 08/04/2014 20:43

I did with my first, it was great. Nice, straightforward labour, healthy baby. I didn't with my second (not by choice) .and 12 months later I'm still in trauma from the pain. If you're offered an epi FGS take it. No one gives medals for going without.

Doctorbrownbear · 08/04/2014 21:32

I had one with no 1 which kept slipping out and didn't work properly. I feel that it made things worse as I spent ages hunched over whilst they kept reinserting it and I lost all focus and control. I ended up with a forcep delivery and horrendous recovery with massive trauma. Second time around I wanted to try to go without and I did. It was a back to back labour and agonising, but I was able to focus and nature took over so I knew what to do and could go with it. I would definatley do it without of I ever had a no3. I felt great very quickly afterwards this time.This