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Castor Oil - Did it work for you?

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flippingstupidnickname · 27/11/2011 12:57

Positive and negative stories please!

And where can I get it from?

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debka · 27/11/2011 14:31

Do.Not.Do.It.

It is Not Good.

fuckityfuckfuckfuck · 27/11/2011 14:32

Please don't. You will give yourself the raging shits, and your baby will very possibly pass meconium too. Just wait it out. No chemist on this earth will sell castor oil to a heavily pregnant woman, and rightly so.

flippingstupidnickname · 27/11/2011 15:23

That's odd, the pharmacist my DH just spoke to said they often sold Castor Oil to pregnant women and that's why they'd sold out.

I know it gives you a very upset stomach but that's meant to be the point of it... Can I ask where the information about the risk of meconium comes from so I can do some research? I can't find anything on Google related to that...

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TheOriginalFAB · 27/11/2011 15:24

Of course they often sell it as some women are daft enough to think it is a good idea. The pharamcist is not going to refuse a sale. Don't do it. It isn't good for the baby.

Fisharefriendsnotmincepies · 27/11/2011 15:27

Well I did it and it worked a treat. Awful dose of the shits, slept for about five hours, woke up with contractions lasting 40secs every 5 mins ds born 3.5 hours later. All 10lb 6 of him. No pain relief and no complications. I would do it again.

flippingstupidnickname · 27/11/2011 15:41

Actually I take that back about not finding any info on Google - a more specific search brought it up but it seems to be by no means conclusive.

I didn't realise there was such strong opposition to it - when I first read up on it it seemed to be a very common and completely accepted way of natural induction.

I'm not trying to be argumentative but why is it seen as being so bad??

It seems quite harsh to call women "daft" for using it...

Curry gives you the shits but no-one seems to be as disparaging about that method of "natural induction"...

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fuckityfuckfuckfuck · 27/11/2011 15:44

I'm surprised, my friend tried desperately to get castor oil to induce her labour but noone would sell it to her. I've never had a curry give me the shits tbh. Castor oil is different, why on earth would you want to put yourself through that? Can you imagine being in labour and having the shits at the same time? Awful. And there's no guarantee it'll work. SO all you'll do is give yourself a really nasty few hours, dehydrate yourself and be no better off for it. Trust me, I've just had food poisoning. It's not an experience I'm keen to repeat.

flippingstupidnickname · 27/11/2011 15:45

TheOriginalFAB - Actually pharmacists have far more scruples than you seem to give them credit for - they wouldn't sell me Calpol when my babies were under the age/weight limit... (and rightly so)

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flippingstupidnickname · 27/11/2011 15:53

I was under the impression that you get the shits then go into labour. Actually having a serious episode of the shits is often beneficial for medical procedures (I was given a strong laxative before my laparoscopy) and you can take measures to prevent dehydration.

You're right about there being no guarantees and that's exactly why I started this thread. I had heard that one study found that labour was successfully induced in 58% of overdue pregnancies and I wanted a straw poll to see if this was roughly true. But, like you say, I don't really want to do it if it really doesn't seem to work.

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flippingstupidnickname · 27/11/2011 15:56

WRT meconium, I have also found that it is more likely in post term births and with any form of induced labour so is it really relevant?

Any info on this would be gratefully received...

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Fisharefriendsnotmincepies · 27/11/2011 15:57

It's in the hypnobirthing book I had as recommended as a last resort before hospital induction. I followed their dosage recommendations too. It wasn't pleasant but I didn't expect it to be. It worked, that's what mattered.

LalasMama · 27/11/2011 16:07

My midwife told me to take it! It was off the record (shes a family friend). I took it with some orange juice, had the shits about half an hour later and was in full blown labour within the hour. Worked for me.

The midwife said it wont make baby poop cos it goes through you so quickly.

flippingstupidnickname · 27/11/2011 16:36

LalasMama - I think that's what I'll do - there are a couple of mums at preschool who are midwives - I'll ask their opinion.

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Flisspaps · 27/11/2011 16:46

If it actually worked they'd use it in hospitals instead of using pristine and syntocinon.

Those who claim it worked could just as well have gone into labour when they did anyway and could have saved themselves getting the shits as well.

Flisspaps · 27/11/2011 16:46

Prostin, not pristine

TheOriginalFAB · 27/11/2011 16:47

^Are Castor oil and other so-called natural inductions safe?
From Laurie's Thoughts on Childbirth Frequently Asked Questions

In midwifery and homebirth circles, ingesting Castor oil is a commonly accepted way to induce labor. I have a few warnings about this and other so called "natural" ways to encourage labor when the body and baby are not ready for birth. First of all, this is a sure fire way to bring about dangerous complications. Yes, I know that many women use castor oil without disastrous results. And yes, generally castor oil is so mild that if your body isn't ready to give birth it won't anyway. BUT, there is the increased risk of fetal distress due, among other things, to dehydration via diarrhea. There is also the fact that being stuck on the toilet with abdominal cramps is a miserable way to begin labor and can put a downward spin (no pun intended) on the whole experience in that sense, right from the start.

My advice for anyone who wishes to induce labor is firstly to seriously examine why you want to start labor artificially at all. Almost all women get to the point in pregnancy where they don't want to be pregnant anymore. See the article How long should a woman feel comfortable going overdue? for more information on going "overdue." This anxiety is natural, but outside pressures from over-eager friends and family, husbands and even birth attendants can make it difficult to do the best thing for the baby's sake. The health of mom and baby must be of foremost concern however, and if you find that you want to induce because of such pressures, then for your child's sake you should not give in. This is a wonderful opportunity to begin to take the full responsibility for the health and well being of your child that is rightfully yours already.

Alternately, sometimes a woman's "care providers" place pressure on her to conform to a standard length of pregnancy. Are midwives or doctors frightening you with predictions of rare complications? If so, you should consider this a serious warning signal that further, more serious interventions and mistrust of the labor process are ahead. In this case you will of course want to take a stand for yourself and your baby (and involve husband or other support). Do it now rather than later when you are more easily manipulated (intentionally or unintentionally - doesn't matter) in the throes of labor.

On the other hand, there is the chance that there is some other specific risk (imagined, iatrogenic, or real) to you or your baby involved in staying pregnant past a specific date. In this case I would ask if you have become thoroughly informed of the risks of induction (premature birth and all it's inherent complications, increased risk of Cesarean delivery, fetal distress, these are a few that come to mind) and how they weigh against whatever this "risk" of continued pregnancy is. You must also take into account the chances of false diagnosis in your specific case. Tests, technology, and experts all can be, and frequently are, wrong. Also, if there really is a serious medical problem, consider whether or not the increased stress of induction might place one or both of you at even greater risk than continuing as your body knows it should would.

Secondly, I suggest something that may strike some as surprising: frequently make love and have orgasms, whether by yourself or with your partner! There are numerous benefits to any labor in doing so, including but not limited to the fact that semen ripens the cervix (it is nature's intended prostaglandin gel insert - the stuff they give women in the hospital is actually pig semen!), nipple stimulation encourages the production of a natural amount of oxytocin (synthetic oxytocin or "pitocin" or "pit" is much stronger and therefore brings on harder, more painful contractions in most cases which can lead to uterine rupture, maternal exhaustion, fetal distress to name a few, and it has many contraindications and warnings -- ask for the package insert...), and simply being loving and intimate with one's partner naturally relaxes the woman's entire body which is essential to a safe, complication free birth, not to mention the fact that it bonds the couple immeasurably around this miraculous event!

If in the end you decide to go ahead and take Castor oil or other such induction methods, I advise you to only do it with the approval and awareness of your birth attendants (if you have any), as they need to be ready, willing, and able to respond to any emergencies it might cause, as well as being able to organize their care around your plans (for example you wouldn't want to cause the baby to be born when your attendants were planning to be away for the weekend if you don't want to give birth without them, and for another example, you wouldn't want your attendants to unknowingly combine induction methods that are incompatible.) Still, I hope you'll seriously consider trusting in the inherent wisdom of your miraculously made body and enjoy a joyous, empowering, complication-free birth.^

TheOriginalFAB · 27/11/2011 16:48

Is it worth any risk?

flippingstupidnickname · 27/11/2011 17:07

TheOriginalFAB - Thanks for that info, makes interesting reading. I take your point about not wanting to take any risk but I don't see how it's any riskier than a medically induced labour which is what I'm trying to avoid.

Similarly the risks of a medically induced labour need to be weighed up against the risks of carrying a post term pregnancy. Thankfully I still have a little time to weigh up these risks and do more research.

Can I ask, have you given birth and if so, what was your story? Were you lucky enough to have an on-time natural labour or did you have to make these difficult decisions too?

I'm glad I started this thread now as there seems to be a lot more to this than I first thought...

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TheOriginalFAB · 27/11/2011 17:33

Nope. 3 difficult labours which nearly ended in 2 dead babies and 1 dead mother so I accept I may be OTT when it comes to not wanting people to take risks.

LalasMama · 27/11/2011 19:29

i should mention, she advised for me not to take it with my second as second labours are usually much quicker (mine was 20mins). Not nice having the poops when in labour!
I took castor oil when preg with DC1 and by the time labour started a was completely flushed out. I did drink loads of water to keep me hydrated so didnt feel unwell at all either :)

flippingstupidnickname · 27/11/2011 19:39

TheOriginalFAB - I'm just trying to determine what you see as taking a risk... ie would you have agreed to a medical induction etc.

LalasMama - How long did the upset stomach last for? Are we talking minutes/hours or for the whole day and then some?

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TheOriginalFAB · 27/11/2011 19:41

I have no idea whether I would have agreed to an induction as it was never an issue. The chances are I would have done everything I was told as your thoughts change once you have nearly lost a child.

Canella · 27/11/2011 19:45

They offer it here in Germany in the hospitals as a natural induction. Worked well for a friend - she had her baby within 8 hours of drinking it but she wasnt told of the possible complications.

Fisharefriendsnotmincepies · 27/11/2011 19:50

Ds was my second dc. The trots lasted about an hour, it was like boiling liquid pouring from you to tell the truth. Then sleep. Then good strong labour pains and ds. It worked for me and I would donut again to avoid medical induction. It's up to each individual to decide what may and may not be right for them.

My private gynae says he would recommend I do the same next time

flippingstupidnickname · 27/11/2011 20:09

TheOriginalFAB - I too nearly lost my son when he was born so would never take any risks. Not everyone who makes a choice or decision about something is naive or reckless. I'm just struggling to see exactly what those risks are and how they compare to the alternatives.

Thanks Canella and fish - Did either of you have any medical advice on the risks? If so, what were they?

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