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How it was in the 1960s!

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oldgrandmama · 22/10/2011 17:37

Not sure if this will amuse or horrify you ... giving birth in an NHS hospital in the mid 1960s.
First, the ante natal clinic. Held in a bleak prefab, with a shed attached as a waiting room. We sat on long wooden benches, clutching our bottles of urine. No magazines, no heating, no anything - we all sat there cowering and worried. A nurse came in and barked at us to take off all our underwear beneath the waist! So we sheepishly removed our knickers and tights (it was the sixties - tights were just wonderful, we thought.) The two girls (first timers, so didn't know the routine, poor things) who were wearing trousers, were mortified. They struggled out of their knickers and put their trousers back on - only later to be bawled out when they entered the inner sanctum and the doctor harangued them for wasting his valuable time for the few seconds it took to get the trousers off.

Ah yes - the doctor. A heavy handed guy, the first 'internal' I'd had. Didn't even look at me, just a case of rough examination and that was it, I was ordered to attend a couple of natal classes at the hospital where I'd be delivered. No suggestion that future baby's father would be welcome at the classes (he wasn't). Classes were frightening. The Sister in charge of the maternity unit was a very fierce lady, who assured us all we would ALL be given an episiotomy as a matter of course, even showed us the scalpels that'd do the deed, and that we'd probably in induced if we didn't look like delivering between nine and five during the day.

a FATHER present during delivery? Never been heard of those days. Fathers were off and out of it. My son's father was playing golf (we since divorced).

When I went into labour, I was given what we all got - a shave and an enema, then a hot bath. I knew my baby was coming fast but the midwives insisted at as a first child, couldn't be. But it was. My little son was born very soon after I was admitted, after I'd wailed that he WAS COMING and finally someone took me seriously. The delivery? I was given gas and air, that didn't do a thing - just before my son appeared, someone said 'oh, the gas and air cannister was empty, fancy that ...' I got a shot of pethidine and apparently threw a bed pan across the delivery room as I didn't like them constantly shoving it under me when I didn't want it.

I was stitched up after birth, by a doctor who looked like a child, and told I was 'numb' so wouldn't feel the embroidery - NOT TRUE!

Everyone spent a week (and occasionally ten days) in hospital after the birth. We had lessons in bathing babies but not, strangely, about getting to grips with breast feeding. You were pretty well left on your own with that. A girl in a bed near me was crying with pain and said she didn't want to breast feed. So the fearsome sister eventually told her that it'd be made sure that her baby would be kept waiting for a feed, crying with hunger, because of her 'selfishness'.

We were also treated like naughty schoolgirls in the ward - IF you were good, you were allowed one night out, back by 9 p.m., during that time with your husband (no-one would admit to not being married).

We were interrogated about bowel movements and also had to abide by a ritual where we had daily to place the sanitary towels that we used after birth on a shelf, each bit marked with our names, so that sister could check that blood loss was within limits. Seemed humiliating but obviously it was in our best interests.

When, after a week, I returned home with my baby son, I, like I'm sure everyone here, thought to myself 'HELP! What do I DO?' Thankfully, he survived and is now a lawyer in his mid forties.

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Secondtimelucky · 22/10/2011 17:44

That is a reminder of how far we've come, but sadly also of how far we have still to go. It is lovely of you to share. Sadly the dismissive behaviour of some staff was also a feature of my own first labour just two years ago. Other bits make me Shock though.

Cheeseandseveredfingersarnie · 22/10/2011 17:47

thankyou for sharing.great reading but im sure not so great at the time.

GuillotinedMaryLacey · 22/10/2011 17:56

Amazing reading. But yes, the staff barking orders and being cold and disinterested hasn't changed in my experience either. The rest though... Shock

belgo · 22/10/2011 18:00

Great story and:

'I was stitched up after birth, by a doctor who looked like a child, and told I was 'numb' so wouldn't feel the embroidery - NOT TRUE!'

unfortunately some things don't change!

TheMummyAbroad · 22/10/2011 18:09

Wow, great/horrifying reading. My mum who had two NHS births in the seventies had told me some pretty similar stories and I was also stitched up without pain relief in 2008 (owch!) and barked at a lot.

I am now about to have my second, but this time in Costa Rica. I have checkout the national health service here and it looks as bleaks as 1960's Britain so I will be paying to go private Sadly in many parts of the world, its still the 1960's or even more backward.

stopgap · 22/10/2011 18:17

My grandmother had five children, the first in 1950, the last in 1961. The first she had at home, but decided to try an NHS hospital for the second. She stayed the routine period of ten days, the first three on enforced bed rest. The sisters on the ward were awful, she said, and treated everyone like kids--much like your experience, oldgrandma. My grandmother said to me, "After that, love, I couldn't be bothered with the silliness of hospitals and went back to having them at home."

oldgrandmama · 22/10/2011 18:25

I bullied my then husband to let me have my second child in a nursing home run by nuns. It was great - my GP was the doctor looking after me and apparently got no fee, and the nursing home charges were very modest. After a gentle, twelve hour labour, the delivery, with an elderly nun and an agency nurse, was perfect. The nun regaled agency nurse and I with stories of deliveries she'd attended in poor places by candlight, no runing water, etc., and told us she still considered every birth a miracle ... because, as she said wonderingly, 'the little thing comes out, and there's NO WAY you could push it back in again!'

The nursing home couldn't actually contact my GP to attend the birth - he was at the opera! I had a tiny tear (NO episiotomy) so the lovely nun said, if I agreed, she'd give me a wee stitch or two though she wasn't supposed to and maybe I shouldn't mention it to the doctor ... I let her - she was a dab hand at local anaesthesia and stitching and it didn't hurt a bit.

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nannyl · 22/10/2011 20:58

great reading

my grandmother had my uncle (planned home birth) in the 60's

she had him (no pain relief) at about 2am... Dr couldnt didnt come until the morning, but he was late for a game of golf so couldnt possibley wait for anaesthetic to work and she was stitched 8 hours after birth with no pain relief (and no natural painkiller hormone / endorphins flowing round her body at that point either) Shock Shock

she always maintains that this was the worst pain of her life, far worse than both her births

pranma · 22/10/2011 21:11

I had my first in 1970 and it was a little better.However during one ante natal appt the doctor was listening to the baby's heart through a trumpet thing.He said to the nurse-'I cant hear a thing!'I panicked and said,'Can't you hear a heart beat?'His reply......'Its no concern of yours dear!!!!!!!!'He then walked off.The nurse quickly grabbed a stethoscope,had a listen and said,'loud and strong love'.She let me listen for myself and I am glad to say i never saw that doctor again.I was very keen on a book called 'The New Childbirth' by Erna Wright.The tone was a bit patronising but the breathing techniques worked and I had easy labours/deliveries with both my dc.

mycatsaysach · 22/10/2011 21:15

i agree not much had changed when my two were born in the nineties - apart form the 10 day stay in bed

AmberLeaf · 22/10/2011 21:26

Thanks, great reading albeit horrific!

My mum told me about her [1969] DAZ enema! yep DAZ washing powder!

10 days in a maternity ward would finish me off I think.

oldgrandmama · 22/10/2011 21:29

I wonder if it was a good or a bad thing that in those days, we had an enforced 'rest' after childbirth, i.e. seven or so days in hospital. I know that my own daughter and sweet daughter in law were discharged from hospital within a few hours of giving birth. And my daughter in law, after second birth (caesarian, because of placenta where it shouldn't be) out two days after delivery. Nice to get back home ... but, at least, prisoners as we were in hospital (with a night out with our husbands, if we were good girls, on the evening of fourth or fifth day) did give us a sort of rest. I forgot to mention in my original post (and thank you all for making me feel welcome, and not like some annoying old biddy who's invated Mumsnet with her wittering) that our newborn babies were kept in a nursery and not with us, and, at night, fed by the nursing staff so we all got an uninterrupted sleep.

Looking back, the ethos of the maternity unit was that we mums were all very naughty girls to have got ourselves pregnant - and maybe I should come clean here, and admit I was considered especially naughty, being an UNMARRIED MUM! Not many of us around those days who were brave/foolish enough to brazen it out. The hospital and ante natal staff were especially cool with me, probably because I didn't act ashamed and I didn't pretend to wedlock by wearing a wedding ring and I appeared to be quite nonchalent about the whole thing.

I did get married (to my little boy's father) two weeks after he was born.

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Secondtimelucky · 22/10/2011 21:38

Two weeks later! God, I couldn't have managed a wedding two weeks after my first. I was all over the place. V impressive.

No one would think you were wittering. Well, they might, but the general view is that wittering is positively encouraged!

oldgrandmama · 22/10/2011 21:45

Just the dad and I and two witnesses - no dressing up, no flowers, no reception ... tiny son a bit small to be a pageboy or whatever so he stayed home with my disapproving new in-laws. To this day, my darling son often likes to announce, after a glass or two, that for two weeks he was officially a b*ard! Bless.

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dikkertjedap · 22/10/2011 21:49

yeah, empty gas canister - I had the same, staff didn't believe me (leading London hospital). Shouting staff, no help breastfeeding. All sounds familiar, so some things just don't change .... Sad

Secondtimelucky · 22/10/2011 21:54

I couldn't have managed any form of wedding - no matter how small. I couldn't have trusted myself to get two matching shoes on and say my vows in a coherent manner. I'm still impressed!

oldgrandmama · 22/10/2011 21:56

Oh good, that wittering is encouraged. Just finding my way around Mumsnet. Now, where do I go here for a Topic on the lines of 'trust your instincts and not your GP ...'?

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Secondtimelucky · 22/10/2011 22:04

Well, it depends the slant you want. Am I being Unreasonable is always good for a total bunfight robust exchange of views, Chat is a bit more gentle, and if you actually want to talk about health matters there are some specific boards Wink. Jump right in and witter away!

WantsToBeAMan · 23/10/2011 05:00

This is a feminist issue.

Maternity concerns women, and so it has always been considered OK to neglect this area of medicine.

There has always been a sickeningly patriarchal approach to obstetrics and I have always found that abhorrent.

A woman's pain, her dignity, her worries are just not taken as seriously.

This maybe a bit extreme, but sometimes I feel the predominance of male obstetricians over the years has led to this insensitive approach to maternity care.
There is scant regard for a woman's dignity and her pain. It makes me sick to the stomach to think about it.

ragged · 23/10/2011 05:09

Friend's mum who gave birth in the 1960s had some corkers...

First child she phoned the MW who came & said "Don't be silly, you're nowhere near delivery, you've wasted my time", and went away again... so the pregnant mother (all of 17yo) was afraid to phone again, and gave birth by herself at home soon after;

One of her subsequent pregnancies she went into hospital with preterm labour but they left her alone on a trolley bed in a corridor where she again gave birth all by herself.

Pretty grim, really.

coccyx · 23/10/2011 06:11

Sounds grim. My mum was fortunate to have 2 homebirths and said it was fab. Midwife arrived on her bike! Ham sandwiches and cups of tea all round afterwards

beginnersluck · 23/10/2011 09:04

My mum was giving birth in the '70s - didn't want to put her feet up in the stirrup-y things, probably got a bit emotional/stroppy about that as she was in labour, so they gave her an injection of valium!

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GreenMonkies · 23/10/2011 09:29

I am a child of the 60's, my sister (eldest) was born in hospital, in a similar set up to the one you describe, but my brother and I were born at home. My dad effectively delivered us, along side the midwife/district nurse.

slartybartfast · 23/10/2011 09:34

no wonder i was born at home ! Shock in the 60's.

my mum was a maternity nurse, and she absolutely loved it Grin
bathing the new babies, swaddling them etc.,

10 days though Shock
imagine the rest you would get, that would be a shock to the system when you came home.