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How it was in the 1960s!

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oldgrandmama · 22/10/2011 17:37

Not sure if this will amuse or horrify you ... giving birth in an NHS hospital in the mid 1960s.
First, the ante natal clinic. Held in a bleak prefab, with a shed attached as a waiting room. We sat on long wooden benches, clutching our bottles of urine. No magazines, no heating, no anything - we all sat there cowering and worried. A nurse came in and barked at us to take off all our underwear beneath the waist! So we sheepishly removed our knickers and tights (it was the sixties - tights were just wonderful, we thought.) The two girls (first timers, so didn't know the routine, poor things) who were wearing trousers, were mortified. They struggled out of their knickers and put their trousers back on - only later to be bawled out when they entered the inner sanctum and the doctor harangued them for wasting his valuable time for the few seconds it took to get the trousers off.

Ah yes - the doctor. A heavy handed guy, the first 'internal' I'd had. Didn't even look at me, just a case of rough examination and that was it, I was ordered to attend a couple of natal classes at the hospital where I'd be delivered. No suggestion that future baby's father would be welcome at the classes (he wasn't). Classes were frightening. The Sister in charge of the maternity unit was a very fierce lady, who assured us all we would ALL be given an episiotomy as a matter of course, even showed us the scalpels that'd do the deed, and that we'd probably in induced if we didn't look like delivering between nine and five during the day.

a FATHER present during delivery? Never been heard of those days. Fathers were off and out of it. My son's father was playing golf (we since divorced).

When I went into labour, I was given what we all got - a shave and an enema, then a hot bath. I knew my baby was coming fast but the midwives insisted at as a first child, couldn't be. But it was. My little son was born very soon after I was admitted, after I'd wailed that he WAS COMING and finally someone took me seriously. The delivery? I was given gas and air, that didn't do a thing - just before my son appeared, someone said 'oh, the gas and air cannister was empty, fancy that ...' I got a shot of pethidine and apparently threw a bed pan across the delivery room as I didn't like them constantly shoving it under me when I didn't want it.

I was stitched up after birth, by a doctor who looked like a child, and told I was 'numb' so wouldn't feel the embroidery - NOT TRUE!

Everyone spent a week (and occasionally ten days) in hospital after the birth. We had lessons in bathing babies but not, strangely, about getting to grips with breast feeding. You were pretty well left on your own with that. A girl in a bed near me was crying with pain and said she didn't want to breast feed. So the fearsome sister eventually told her that it'd be made sure that her baby would be kept waiting for a feed, crying with hunger, because of her 'selfishness'.

We were also treated like naughty schoolgirls in the ward - IF you were good, you were allowed one night out, back by 9 p.m., during that time with your husband (no-one would admit to not being married).

We were interrogated about bowel movements and also had to abide by a ritual where we had daily to place the sanitary towels that we used after birth on a shelf, each bit marked with our names, so that sister could check that blood loss was within limits. Seemed humiliating but obviously it was in our best interests.

When, after a week, I returned home with my baby son, I, like I'm sure everyone here, thought to myself 'HELP! What do I DO?' Thankfully, he survived and is now a lawyer in his mid forties.

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TastyMuffins · 24/10/2011 20:49

Amazing how some things have changed so much but also how much things vary from place to place.

I recently finished reading Jennifer Worth's book of stories of her time working as a midwife in the Docklands of London in the 1950's, it's a great read, some wonderful stories of life in those days as well as childbirth:

www.amazon.co.uk/Call-Midwife-True-Story-1950s/dp/0753823837/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1319485608&sr=1-1

Secondtimelucky · 24/10/2011 20:50

Ha ha, thankfully I don't. My Gran has said that they'd give a spot of alcohol rubbed on the gums to ease teething though Hmm.

TheMummyAbroad · 24/10/2011 20:53

I had my dummy dipped in alcohol to help keep me quiet!

queenebay · 24/10/2011 20:59

My mum had my sister in the 60's and my dad obviously wasnt allowed in the hosp. He recieved a letter days later saying Dear Mr W , your wife Mrs W had a daughter/son and the child was alive/stillborn with the correct thing circled. Shes still got it now and it still horrifies her

oldgrandmama · 24/10/2011 22:54

There were some great hospitals in the 1960s. In 1963, while on holiday in Wales, I went into labour (four months pregnant) during a flood (we were camping) and it didn't help that I, with the rest of the family, was struggling to remove big heavy tent to high ground ... anyway, something went wrong during wrestling with the tent and I was rushed to a nearby cottage hospital - I gave birth to my non viable son in the ambulance on the way there.

Was kept in the hospital for a week - other ladies in the ward were all Welsh, but, as soon as I arrived, they sweetly stopped talking to each other in Welsh and spoke only English. That was so kind of them. Nursing staff, doctors were fantastic - it was such a tiny hospital but I felt completely cherished, if you know what I mean.

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DuelingFanjo · 24/10/2011 22:58

My mum gave birth in '68. She opted for a home birth with the next two.

DH came in to see her and the baby and when he tried to pick the baby up the midwife rushed in and shouted 'put that baby DOWN'.

things have changed Grin

horMOANSnomore · 25/10/2011 20:35

queenebay ShockShock

GreenMonkies · 25/10/2011 23:46

EdlessAllenPoe "todays accepted practices will be looked back on in horror too."

They already are being, and should be more often. Maternity seems to be the only area of medicine where it is acceptable to not adopt new practices and procedures, where out of date practices continue to be used and no-one complains. We know we shouldn't labour on our backs, but how many women who gave birth in the last 12 months delivered on their backs, I'd guess most of them. We know that pain relief passes through the placenta and makes breastfeeding harder to establish, but still pain relief is dished out routinely when a shift in position (getting the mum off her back and onto all fours/kneeling/squatting) would help immeasurably with pain levels. We know that delayed cord-clamping leads to easier placenta delivery and reduced respiratory distress in neonates, but cords are still clamped and cut the instant a baby is born. We know that inductions and labour augmentation leads to higher c-section rates, yet we still induce routinely when women are barely 1 week past their EDD (E stands for Estimated, not Exact!). We know that formula supplements sabotage breastfeeding, but little pre-made bottles are still handed out in most maternity wards. We know that skin-to-skin and leaving baby relatively unwashed helps establish breastfeeding, but babies are still whisked away, washed and dressed/swaddled before being given back to mum. We know^ that co-sleeping, when practiced following some simple guidelines, is safe and can make a huge difference to breastfeeding success and maternal tiredness, but we are still told to put the baby in a cot. and so on, and so on.

TheMummyAbroad · 26/10/2011 01:56

GreenMonkies what a great post, I think I will copy this and put it on my FB status - you are right, we should complain more and get these things changed!

hugglymugly · 27/10/2011 20:51

I echo TheMummyAbroad's response to GreenMonkie's post.

Although I have been very encouraged by the improvements to maternal care as evidenced here, I've also been in despair as to how some things, especially attitudes, haven't changed at all.

I've just remembered one time, just a few years ago, when I was temping in the local obs/gynae unit. The structure of the building was a kind of squared figure 8, so there were two internal courtyards. The windows of the upper-level labour ward opened into the courtyard where the offices were, so if the windows were open (which was the case during hot weather because there was no air-conditioning) those of us in the lower levels could hear labouring women. One day there was a woman who was vocalising during labour ? mooing kind of sounds, not screaming. One of the consultant's secretaries, who'd been there for several years, commented: "Oh, for heaven's sake, get on with it."

Changes in attitude needs to happen at all levels.

mondayschild · 27/10/2011 21:23

Thanks so much for sharing your experinences old grandma and everyone else. While I know things are sometimes far from perfect these days, reading this thread has made me so grateful for my own experiences. I'd also heard some horror stories about the 1940s from my late DGM about stern matrons who wouldn't let you pick up your own baby without permission, and also one really heartbreaking situation she saw where a young mother had her baby forceably removed for adoption days after he was born just because she was unmarried. I feel tearful everytime I think about it.

I do think in general now there is more awareness of the importance of bonding from the outset. For example, DS was with me from birth including overnight and not wisked away to the nursery "for your own good dear" like when I was born. I wonder whether this is at least part of the reason why my mum and I had such different experiences with breastfeeding.

Also (and I know I'm really fortunate having had a straighforward birth, a healthy baby and a supportive DH) but it was really important to me to be able to go home quickly and start caring for DS in my own enviroment. Although I appreciate that some mums perhaps feel rushed home too quickly these days and that there should be some more support sometimes where it's needed/requested, what would have made me very angry is being told that you couldn't get up for days on end or not even think about going home for a week even if there was no reason - that would have driven me potty!

oldgrandmama · 31/10/2011 18:46

One thing I've forgotten to mention - the Health Visitor. All new mums were visited several times by the Health Visitor. One could ask her advice about all sorts of things to do with a new baby. Not sure about post natal depression - I didn't suffer it, thank goodness, but I don't know how the HV would have advised those mothers who did. My HV was a very brisk, no nonsense lady and I was terrified of her. One thing that rather annoyed me - after my second child was all growing up and I didn't need the beautiful coach built pram I'd had for the two kids (yes, we had prams in those days!) I asked her if she knew any new mum who was maybe short of a few bob and would like a lovely free pram? She said yes, she had many needy mums on her books and the pram would go to a good home. It went to a very good home - a wealthy American couple, in Britain for a few years, representing a huge USA publishing company, who could have afforded a hundred coach built prams! What was the HV thinking???

Oh dear - hope this doesn't sound like I was trying to be Lady Bountiful in getting rid of the wretched pram - but it still annoys me, nearly forty years on, about my pram going to an undeserving cause!

Are Health Visitors still around? And the weekly Baby Clinics? I found the Clinics wonderful - lovely lady doctor (also my NHS gynaecologist) who was always so reassuring and kind.

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TheMummyAbroad · 31/10/2011 20:32

HV's are still here. My one (in 2008) was quite scary too. She announced loftily "I am responsible for your son until he is 5 years old and enters school" I remember thinking that I was sure she had that wrong, and he was in fact my responsibility but just nodded along at the time. Strangely she never showed up for the next appointment and I never had an explanation or replacement HV. Hmm

I would be annoyed about the pram too!

fluffythevampirestabber · 31/10/2011 20:57

I had my first son in 1990.

The obstetrician had hands like a navvy and ordered my induction because he was off to play golf the next week.

I had to be quite forceful (and I was only 20 and very naive) not to have a shave and enema.

My son was taken away as soon as he was born and washed and dressed and I didn't get to hold him until this was done.

A 10 day stay in the cottage hospital was the norm.

I wanted to breast feed but since my son was taken away at 8pm to the nursery and returned at 8am and given bottles all that time I didn't really stand a chance.

I was made to pull the curtains every time I wanted to feed him as it upset the other mothers (WTF?)

He had jaundice and I was told it was my fault because he wasn't getting enough milk and I had to give him formula.

No2 DS was born in a different hospital in 1992, essentially the same rules except I dug my heels in on the breastfeeding.

DD1 and DD2 I was bolshie and arrogant enough to think I knew best for my body and my kids and I insisted on skin to skin straight after birth, labouring how I wanted not on my back in the bed, and I had as quick a discharge as I could (had to have blood/anti-biotics and insisted they were given over night so I could leave first thing in the morning and had baby in car seat ready to go)

luvmom88 · 18/04/2020 04:19

Makes me sick and really angry. And you are correct, it’s men overtaking women’s health and childbirth from midwives that resulted in the mistreatment of women. Still happening especially in other parts of the world.

Scott72 · 21/04/2020 10:11

"we would ALL be given an episiotomy as a matter of course"

When did this trend of routine episiotomies take off? Seems very strange. Humans must have been giving birth for 100,000s of years without this surgery!

balonzz · 21/04/2020 10:34

I had my first child in 1980 and she's now 40, surely you mean that your son is now in his 50s @oldgrandmama?

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