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Ban births!

76 replies

BoffinMum · 24/02/2011 18:55

They're a terrible strain on the NHS, after all. If someone wants a bit of love and affection they should get a puppy, not expect taxpayers to fund their lifestyle choices.

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TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 25/02/2011 19:06

Can one offset your child allowance - like your carbon?

Because I've only got one - and I need some cash.

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BoffinMum · 25/02/2011 19:09

So few people in my family have bothered to reproduce I felt obliged to use up their allocations as well.

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RIZZ0 · 25/02/2011 19:12

Oh you bleddy "rights for women" brigade!

My friend is a midwife who know some things about things and whilst listening to some of the things she says which actually agree with some of the things you say I, er.. oh. Forgot.

RIZZ0 · 25/02/2011 19:56

I trust I have not dedded the thread and it is in fact just bedtime business keeping you all away...

NHSsupporter · 25/02/2011 20:03

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BoffinMum · 25/02/2011 20:25

I've reported that last post, people.

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NHSsupporter · 25/02/2011 20:57

Clearly touched on a raw nerve - sorry!

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BoffinMum · 25/02/2011 21:31

No, it's because you've been personally abusive and that breaks the rules of MN, whilst also spoiling the site for others. Disagreeing is one thing, but nastiness is not tolerated.

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TCOB · 25/02/2011 21:34

I think it's much simpler than banning births actually. If we just ban 'breathing' then practically all expense will be eliminated leading to a leaner and more efficient society Grin.

EngelbertFustianMcSlinkydog · 25/02/2011 21:40

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BoffinMum · 25/02/2011 21:49

I don't like being told I should give birth how other people see fit, for the economy and convenience of others. I think that was my point.

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Nailitorelse · 25/02/2011 22:20

Watched these 2 threads unfold with great interest and I have to say some hilarity at how easily some people have taken the OP bait.

That said, Boff, Lulu and a few others make some excellent points about our right to choose what is right for us as individuals, and what the statistics show, but a few inconsistencies as well.

Boff you told NHS about personal abuse breaking the rules of MN with nastiness not being tolerated, but I notice that you did exactly that on the other thread and had your comment removed as well.
Surely, the better educated we really are the easier we should find it not to take the bait?!

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BoffinMum · 25/02/2011 22:35

You are quite right and I should have known better and not engaged. In my defence I had a weak moment.

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TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 26/02/2011 00:05

am I allowed to ask what NHSsupporter said that was banned?

Nailitorelse · 26/02/2011 06:13

Something to do with BoffinMum resembling Clare Raynor I think. Clearly a deliberately inflammatory comment.

rocketleaf · 26/02/2011 08:46

TCOB I think we should tax breathing not ban it. That way we could generate income. Perhaps we could ban food though? Think of the cost savings of growing, harvesting and transporting, plus it would leave more room in the compost bins for our emaciated bodies without the vegetable peelings in there taking up all the room.

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BoffinMum · 26/02/2011 09:04

I think the poster concerned has been Spoken To. I think they just don't get the MN thing.

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rocketleaf · 26/02/2011 10:13

Not wanting to give the satisfaction of post on t'other thread but I would just like to say thanks for some if those links and figures. Currently trying to reassure DH that I will not necessarily be 'safer' in hospital and had also been wondering if it cost more and I was being a bit selfish. So thread back fired spectaculary if trying to discourage HBs.

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BoffinMum · 26/02/2011 10:20

Happy to have helped. Smile

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Nailitorelse · 26/02/2011 10:38

Wonder whether DH "discouragement" for HB is actually related to their own insecurity in actually being able to do anything during process in their own home?!
May be worth having a discussion about DH involvement during a HB - i.e. what is their contribution?

Nailitorelse · 26/02/2011 10:40

Boff, being relatively new to MN, how do you actually know if someone "has been spoken to"?

rocketleaf · 26/02/2011 10:56

Nailto, quite possibly. It is my first pregnancy and I am 39, he just wants to make sure I have access to the best possible care in case 'something goes wrong' which I think he feels is more likely because of my age. I don't know if that's true or not (I need to do a bit more research) and MWs have so far been very supportive of HB for me. But he assumes that means hospital, the more I read the less I agree with that. I think for him it is fear of the unknown, I am hoping that ante natal classes and NCT are going to help inform him and make him more comfortable with the idea as I would really like to do this at home. That said if there is even a sniff of a complication then I am open to the alternative, I think being flexible is the key as from what I have read getting the birth you 'planned' for is definitely not the rule!

foxytocin · 26/02/2011 11:13

reviews from men seem to suggest that at a home birth they feel more useful than in a hospital. the home birth website has a few dads' stories, I believe.

there is also at least one daddy blog i read recently about how great a hb is for men.

foxytocin · 26/02/2011 11:16

down the side, parts 1 & 2.

rocketleaf · 26/02/2011 11:34

Thanks for that foxy, sorry for thread hijack boffinmum :o Really ought to start my own thread about this.