Should governments investigate possible links between Covid vaccines and rising cancer rates?

[Adrianne1988]

Germany is holding a parliamentary inquiry into its COVID response — including how the mRNA vaccines were approved and rolled out. And during that inquiry, a former Chief Toxicologist for Pfizer Europe, Dr. Helmut Sterz, was called to testify.

Under questioning, he said that several key safety studies were not carried out before approval, including long-term carcinogenicity testing. He told the committee that the approval process was accelerated so quickly that important toxicity studies were sacrificed in order to save time.

He also stated that the substance used during the clinical trials was not identical to the one later mass-produced for the population, saying the manufacturing process introduced contamination with bacterial DNA.

Those are serious claims. And they’re now being discussed inside a national parliament, not just on social media. The inquiry is also examining whether side effects and vaccine injuries were expected to be investigated after the vaccines had already been rolled out, rather than fully understood beforehand.

Whether people ultimately agree with his conclusions or not, the fact remains, there has been a noticeable uptick in the rates of many types of cancer since 2021 and therefore should not our governments and health authorities be tasked with investigating a possible link, if nothing else to rule it out as coincidence?

Watch it and make up your own mind.

@Newbutoldfather i can understand (kind of) the need to have locked down - earlier and shorter would have been better, in hindsight.

But where Boris and his merry men did shoot themselves in both feet were they so many of the rungs they did were so obviously underhand, to name but a few:
Partygate.
Frightening the pants off the public.
Pointlessly changing roolz.
U-turn after screeching u-turn. Masks worse than useless; next moment, compulsory. Schools safe, closed next day.
PPE scandal.

The list goes on and on. Why does the government deserve our trust?

I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist but did anyone else see the long post that was just on this thread responding to @Newbutoldfather about covid response that has just literally vanished from MN? Not 'deleted for breaking talk guidelines', just gone?

I have a copy of it so I know I'm not making it up.

I can see one by @scalt immediately above yours. Is that the one?

No, this was much longer, posted by someone with a name like Wrexhamgirl. Definitely on this thread because it referenced Newbutoldfather's point about Sweden's population density. Said it was irrelevant as their population was mostly concentrated in towns and cities.

Weird. Wonder if HQ tried to delete it normally and it disappeared into a hole in the site.

@noblegiraffe ,

‘No, this was much longer, posted by someone with a name like Wrexhamgirl. Definitely on this thread because it referenced Newbutoldfather's point about Sweden's population density. Said it was irrelevant as their population was mostly concentrated in towns and cities.’

Wish I had seen it and then we could have talked about the relative sizes and population densities of the cities too.

And the fact that Sweden did move all 6th forms and unis to distance learning too (although not schools).

And the restriction of movement from area to area. The move to WFH, not using public transport unless necessary, no mass gatherings, maximum capacities in buildings, not being allowed into school if you had any symptom of illness even hayfever until you had had a negative PCR test.

People always seem to act like Sweden was a complete free for all. It wasn’t it’s just the onus was on people to be socially responsible and avoid contact by choice.

Stop talking sense and facts, you know they can’t take it!

I feel the opposite

so oddly it’s not about opinions or individual experiences
it’s about major studies, peer review, evidence, statistics and actual facts

the classic example is prattling on about Sweden and ignoring the many times pointed out differences between countries. And ignoring Italy, Spain ,New York, India…..

I don’t disagree with some of this. Boris and Co are broadly idiots and have my contempt for many many things

but on the other hand the balance between health and economy was a brutal one. The effects of both are still felt today. It was a pandemic after all

And of course being with loved ones if the fell ill or dealing with isolation, etc was also brutalbut I also knew families where people were attending funerals of loved ones who dies with covid, then people caught it from the funeral and came close to death themselves. What terrible choices…

And here is the thing that worries me now. Let us suppose that things in Iran were worse than they are now, our oil supply threatened, and once again, our government was asking us to modify our behaviour: use cars less, for example, or petrol rationing, with “key workers” (a phrase which instantly brings back memories) being allowed to use more. People even now might still be angry about Partygate, or vaccine damage, their children suffering from lost education, or being denied a parent’s funeral, and be thinking “no government is going to boss me around ever again”. So the government might then resort to the now tried and tested plan B: use the press to frighten the pants off the public, and put infantilising slogans everywhere. “Think before you fill!” (your car, that is)

Relying so heavily on fear porn in 2020 was “cry wolf” syndrome for many people.