Should governments investigate possible links between Covid vaccines and rising cancer rates?

[Adrianne1988]

Germany is holding a parliamentary inquiry into its COVID response — including how the mRNA vaccines were approved and rolled out. And during that inquiry, a former Chief Toxicologist for Pfizer Europe, Dr. Helmut Sterz, was called to testify.

Under questioning, he said that several key safety studies were not carried out before approval, including long-term carcinogenicity testing. He told the committee that the approval process was accelerated so quickly that important toxicity studies were sacrificed in order to save time.

He also stated that the substance used during the clinical trials was not identical to the one later mass-produced for the population, saying the manufacturing process introduced contamination with bacterial DNA.

Those are serious claims. And they’re now being discussed inside a national parliament, not just on social media. The inquiry is also examining whether side effects and vaccine injuries were expected to be investigated after the vaccines had already been rolled out, rather than fully understood beforehand.

Whether people ultimately agree with his conclusions or not, the fact remains, there has been a noticeable uptick in the rates of many types of cancer since 2021 and therefore should not our governments and health authorities be tasked with investigating a possible link, if nothing else to rule it out as coincidence?

Watch it and make up your own mind.

Whether it's true or not that there may be a link between vaccines and rising cancer rates, we must not forget just how much moralising and public pressure there was to take the vaccine, including on Mumsnet, where people who refused it were "granny-murdering selfish arseholes". We were practically told that any safety concerns were totally and utterly irrelevant. Those who refused it were scapegoated in many ways. The government will try to airbrush this out of history, saying "we never forced anybody to take the vaccine". That statement is technically true, but they and many others made a massive attempt to COERCE people to take it.

Specific examples of public pressure were:

• Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby saying that Jesus would have taken it, and that it was a "moral issue". Now, I wonder who leaned on Welby?
• People putting "I've been vaccinated" as their Facebook status; it was "look at me, I'm holier than thou", like the doorstep clapping.
• The Tesco ad of Santa showing a Vaxpass. (I've hardly shopped at Tesco since.)
• The "Time to Protect" campaign, depicting children who took the vaccine (as if they had a choice) in superhero costumes. And I am not making this up: it is specifically discussed in the covid inquiry as a "misleading vaccine campaign", in black and white.
• The government hinted that lockdown would last longer if people refused vaccines.
• The government hinted that those who continued to refuse the vaccine would face lockdown restrictions, including being barred from going about everyday business, which was a reality for a while in Austria. While this did not actually happen here (and I bet Boris-for-whom-my-heart-bleeds breathed a sigh of relief), I think we came dangerously close to it. The infrastructure (the highly expensive app and barcodes) was oven-baked and ready, all it needed was Boris's handlers moving his head in a nodding position.

This is why it matters very much whether there are health consequences to the vaccine. If the government had said "take it at your own risk", it would be another matter. But instead, they told us it was "absolutely safe"

And I'm quite certain that the government did the "scarcity marketing"; made it appear that the vaccine supplies were scarce, so that people would rush out and grab it.

I strongly believe the Covid vaccine caused my cancer.

Me too for mine

Then again didn’t the covid vaccin accelerate cancer research ? Who can say what would have happened if we hadn’t had herd immunity from the vaccin? Could the increase in cancer come from better / earlier detection in an amount of cases?

Just how exactly can you accelerate time to check for long term side effects?

And Pfizer said themselves (see original video) there was no testing on toxicity, no testing on pregnant women, and no testing on transmission. Pfizer admitted that short cuts were taken. And Pfizer said themselves, the vaccines that were widely distributed were actually made and formulated in a different way to the vaccines that was tested, and hence the problems with DNA and Bacterial contamination which differed between batches.

Don't forget, these were MRNA vaccines, very, very different from traditional vaccines which have a good safety record. MRNA vaccines instruct the body to produce its own spike protein. Hence very difficult to predict dosage as with a traditional vaccine, as the body itself creates the magic. And every body can behave somewhat differently of course.

The government threatened NHS workers with their jobs if they did not take it, thankfully backtracking under pressure, and they did actually fire approx. 45,000 care workers for not taking it.

So much for 'my body - my choice', huh.

Yet the thing is, there were plenty of very senior professors, doctors and scientists with many decades of research behind them who did raise concerns about lockdowns and the vaccines, and all were routinely censored, shut-down, smeared, de-platformed, etc. Hence most people never heard opposing points of view in the media. Many lost careers, funding and long-held positions in academia etc, as only one point of view was tolerated at the time.

Are you serious? The way I felt almost forced into getting the vaccine. Being told that it’s safe. I’m so glad I didn’t push my teens into getting it and I regret getting it myself.

Oh good grief conspiracy again - the whole world was wrong apart from a few brave souls

My work place changed policy and wouldn’t pay sick leave if you had Covid but wasn’t vaccinated.

@Adrianne1988
You have gone down the rabbit hole.

Are you sure? That would be highly illegal

Yeah that's how the hard of thinking see it. The reality though is somewhat more nuanced.

@Adrianne1988 ,

Which part do you struggle to accept?

Covid 19 was a novel zoonotic virus with a mortality above seasonal influenza (certainly at the start) and no one with any initial immunity.

Hospitals and ICUs were full of COVID patients.

Without lockdown, we would have had too many sick people at the same time to care for them adequately.

Vaccinations saved lives and massively reduced the burden on health care professionals and hospitals.

I know a fair few doctors who include virologists. None of them disagree with the consensus.

GB news story - check

Vague & conspiratorial language plus "make up your own mind" type russian propaganda - check

Ignoring the large scale french study confirming no increased mortality from mrn covid vaccines - check

www.epi-phare.fr/en/study-reports-and-publications/covid-19-mrna-vaccination-mortality/

Total rubbish, as Sweden and several other countries have proved. There are plenty of very senior epidemiologists, doctors and scientists who disagree with all of the above, just that with the mainstream (controlled) news sources you likely follow, you probably won't have heard of any of them (except perhaps negatively).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/03/26/lives-ruined-covid-vaccines/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_photo&fbclid=IwY2xjawQyZAdleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBvYVlhZ3JuYUJCVEp4ZzVpc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHoyHR_pWYMO2hsTUnPAKK0a7V8SVZMRqzHU821oGZjdZMU6FlHHCuiE1ypAV_aem_2204G9hpd6fS550wQN59Jg

antivaxxer is an insult?
I guess if you say so then so it must be.

Having worked and studied in this area for many years, including a decade spent working in clinical research, I can honestly say that your conspiracy theories are completely and utterly unfounded. The biggest tragedy to come out of the Covid pandemic is the sheer amount of information being spread by people who use YouTube, TikTok and Rumble as their sources. It's incredibly, incredibly upsetting and frustrating for someone like me who has literally spent their working life in this arena.

(Oh and I also had some input into the Covid inquiry, all of the increases in certain conditions and diseases allegedly caused by Covid? Didn't happen I'm afraid)

By your logic this guy should be riddled with cancer. Instead he suffered no ill effects https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-68477735

the world is a scary and unpredictable place and that’s why people go down the rabbit hole of thinking everything is planned and controlled by some shadowy group. The truth is it’s just us, and people like us: imperfect chaotic humans who make bad decisions sometimes. There’s no one in control, there’s no big “other”. That’s a much scarier truth than anything you can say about vaccines or the plandemic. Which is why people shy away from it, I suppose.

What conditions didn’t happen as there are thousands upon thousands of research articles showing the damage covid infections do?

Covid vaccines or Covid? Because suggesting Covid infections, even when the acute stage is mild, don’t cause an increase in a number of conditions would be a fairly bold statement at this point.

Heart attacks and strokes?

@Dariein @RafaistheKingofClay I'm referring to the spurious claims that the vaccine rollout increased certain issues, not Covid infections (which certainly do!)

I do just find it incredible how vulnerable people are to conspiracy theories.

What leader of a democracy would choose to lock its populace down and sacrifice vast amounts of wealth for no reason?

All they are doing is shooting themselves in the foot for the next election.

You could argue (correctly) that the fatality and hospitalisation rate was overestimated at first (1.5% mortality was the early estimate, later revised down to 0.4% about). But 1.5% was the best guess at the time, based on the Italian outbreak.

And, of course, the lower rate is based on hospitals being open and ICU treatment being available (hence the need for lockdown).

All this stuff has been mathematically proven. People like to say ‘but Sweden’. However, viruses spread by contact and Sweden’s population density is 1/16th of England’s, so we would need to decrease contact by a factor of 16 to get to Sweden’s unlocked down contact level.

The SIRS and similar mathematical models show how diseases spread and how much you need to reduce contact to prevent spread. The only other solution is vaccination.

This is all just basic mathematics and science. It is such a shame that people don’t believe in experts (and epidemiologists and virologists are genuine experts, unlike politicians and economists say).