tut tut tut at caravans. They use 1/3 more petrol to pull

[fillyjonk]

So you drive to a place of outstanding national beauty, belching out 1/3 more crap than usual, even.

And thats BEFORE the satellite dishes, gnomes, carpets etc

tut tut tut

(ps why YES my in laws have one)

no, there was a rat in it

im gonnas stick up for our 4x4 but we are a large family so need a 7 seater and were we live is hilly so i can say we need it

I am staying in a caravan this weekend but it is static (apparently) and doesn't get driven about

agree on big cars, HIDEOUS

re camping, why do some people take half their house with them? chairs, tables, mattress, pots and pans etc etc etc

Hilly? so you need a 4x4?

to be honest i cant see my self gettin 4 kids and 2 adults in a fiesta and battling the hell out of its engine up the hills we live about 10 mins from the moors/pennines so the hills here aint little bumps in a rd i agree though for 4x4 in town but our town centre is over 20 mins away from us and buses what are they are very rare here as an since we have a caravan a fiesta is no good for it

a rat in it, how bizarre, he obviously had good taste, pics of my van on my profile, i love showing it off, more than the kids

yes, I didn't see the rat but there was evidence apparently!

I've barely seen the van tbh, DH bought it for the Isle of Wight festival and then left in on a friends bit of land as it had no tax, used as a bunk, unloved, until he sold it to a different friend, complete with rat, for a lot less than he paid for it.

They are loving it now.

Your van is lovely, quadrophenia, beautiful colour.

Hmm my mistake for not realising that the only options on the road are fiestas and 4x4s.... Funnily enough though we also live in a village in the Pennine foothills and my Fiesta has managed fine for the last 42000 miles.

Yes I realise you can't fit 6 in a fiesta but there are other options. And I amm just not buying this hilly argument.

lol at "I need a 4x4 because a fiesta is unsuitable"

this we can disagree on till we blue in the face its our choice to have a 4x4 it meets my family needs,
there is bigger 7 seater out there with a bigger engine than our 4x4.
people say there is lunatics in 4x4 but there is lunatics in all cars out there no matter how big they are in the end our rds the speed is 30 does everyone keep to that?
in the end my car is safe keeps my family safe i keep it mot taxed ins etc, it will take more than me to take a 4x4 of the rd to save the environment we recycle etc but everyone has to do it before it will make a difference.
so sorry mine will be staying put

Blu
If you did use our 'facilities' you were doing the enviroment less harm than using any other toilets in the area..

We have just installed a reed bed to clean our grey water in the most enviromentally friendly way possible, all flush water is recycled from the bed, the site is in fact Carbon Neutral!

And I do agree about lugging 3 tonne caravans up and down the country... which is why we have a caravan store close to the site.

I'd rather fly than pull a caravan anywhere in the UK even with a 4x4 (I've only driven one once on an off-road course and it scared the bejesus out of me when they made me start it on a hill without the handbrake on ). In my defence when I go abroad, I always use local public transport when I'm there (as it's far superior to UK public tranport and it's tons cheaper).

I'd never own a tow-able caravan, but we do like to holiday at caravan sites in the UK.

Prefer cottages, but caravan will do as well.

You get more than one use out of a caravan, as opposed to, say a flight somewhere.

And some people enjoy this rathern than tent camping.

Good for them, I say!

Don't like it, don't own one.

I took portable chairs, tables and pots and pans camping with me if we were car camping.

Ever sat on the ground with nothing at your back for hours at a time? It gets damned uncomfortable.

And pots and pans are good for food preparation.

Camping doesn't have to mean backpacking.

Oooh, Anteater, I hope I did avail myself of your reed-bed system! It sounds excellent.

The site was on the right driving into Pooley Bridge from Howtown - before you get into the centre. There were tents - and the toilet block that I used was a caravan in a field with a rope swing on a tree and a pony in the field behind!

But I wondered if you were just past the junction to Penrith...

Now you won't be able to tell me for fear of blowing your anonymity!

I went up Helvellyn on Friday over Birkhouse Moor, Striding edge and back down Swirral Edge...can still barely walk for stiff knees.

We have a caravan .But definatley don't have a 4x4 if you choose the right van you don't need to have that.
So I am i forgiven or are you just totally anti caravans ?
I'm confused.

Afraid you contributed to Park Foots poo mountain, not ours!(Incidently there waste water is pumped to the Pooley Bridge sewage works)
If you do figure out who we are please keep it quiet!

Ah, yes, Park Foot - that was it.
Luckily I only had a wee so will not have caused too much havoc.

Will keep quiet about you....but haven't sussed it anyway, and my stalkerish little self will be safely back in the SE until this time next year! I just remembered you once saying you like to line caravans up in matching batches!

Ha Filly

got some lovely figures on why caravan holidays are much better than holidays abroad for the environment (although camping best, even if done in a 4X4 apaprently)

Actually i'd never own a caravan

And its REYNAUDS

Daft woman

and for the boring-

caravan and camoping club figures quotes-

a round trip to Edinburgh from london with a 4X4 pulling a caravan (no size given) produces less carbon than a trip to france on a plane

Still wouldn't have a caravan tho

just like rucking with FJ

hmm

now when i say reynards i mean the uncommon syndrome whereby you grow a long foxy nose and forage for slugs. What were you talking about, Peachy?

and am not sure why everyone is comparing this to flights. Haven't bloody flown in YEARS

what you all want is wilderness camping....no carpets, no gnomes, no plastic flowers, just a pot to piss in and a can of beans. oh and scenary.

Don't like beans.

Can do scenery (camped overlooking St Helens Bay in IoW alst year- when there was a lightening storm echoinga round the bay and we could watch from the tent, that was scenery at its very best) - and they did proper coffee

They also had dodgy entertainment but it was easily avoided

oooh sounds nice

we are thinking of going to that place in cirenester this w/end with an organic cafe, if i can get out of pta shite