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Not losing weight despite massively cutting back

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Morgun · 28/09/2025 13:45

Can anyone analyse what I’m eating and tell me where I’m going wrong? I’ve cut back so much yet the scales are not shifting. I’m 5ft 8 and 16st

breakfast - porridge oats, 2 slices of wholemeal toast with low fat spread, a fat free yogurt and a banana

lunch - pasta salad with a wholemeal roll and a packet of low calorie crisps.

Aftetnoon snack - apple, nuts and sometimes a fat free yogurt but not always

dinner - homemade spaghetti bolognese (wholemeal spaghetti), 2 small slices of garlic baguette, a weight watchers mouse and a piece of fruit

evening snack - a couple of biscuits

this is far less than I used to eat yet the scales are not budging. I’m being told to cut down further but I can’t see what else I can do, I’m struggling as it is.

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childofthe607080s · 28/09/2025 21:54

MemorableTrenchcoat · 28/09/2025 21:52

It may not be scientific, but it illustrates that eggs would keep you in better health, for longer, than oats and wheat. Humans can survive perfectly well on zero carbohydrates, but would quickly die without protein and fat. Eggs are simply a more nutrient dense food than grains.

porridge with milk has fats and protein ?
and fibre

Allisnotlost1 · 28/09/2025 21:55

Bambamhoohoo · 28/09/2025 21:40

Sorry do you not understand the point? It’s obvious if a yogurt has sugar (or sweetener ) added. Do you think people don’t know that? The one you’ve linked to is bloody banana flavoured 😂

there are plenty of plain fat free yogurts around. There is nothing wrong with fat free yogurt.

you’re arguing because you are spreading the myth that fat free yogurt is sugary and keep posting random links at someone who is simply confirming that it is not, inherently, any more sugary than full fat yogurt.

No-one is ‘spreading myths’. You yourself said I was a myth that free yoghurts contain sugar - it’s not, many do.

Of course fat free yoghurt is not inherently higher sugar, and nobody said there was anything wrong with fat free yoghurt per se. Unfortunately not every yoghurt labelled fat free is low calorie either, and while some contain artificial sweeteners and no added sugar, plenty also contain added sugar. Great for you that it’s obvious which contain sugar, but lots of people are less well informed and believe fat free labels are always a good choice. OP sounds like she is at the start of understating her food choices could perhaps do with clearer direction (which is the whole point of the thread) than ‘just choose fat free’.

MemorableTrenchcoat · 28/09/2025 21:58

Bambamhoohoo · 28/09/2025 21:52

it doesn’t illustrate anything. It’s just an idea you have.

It’s a fact that we can survive without carbohydrates, but not protein and fat.

Venecja · 28/09/2025 22:01

If Op is taking any of this in re. Yoghurts I have fage high protein Greek yoghurt 0% - 5% fat and it’s not sugary. It has such a lovely creamy texture it’s my fave!

But I believe there are even a few flavoured ones that aren’t too high in sugar nowadays.
Fage has brought out a line of fruit yoghurts and they’re about 7g sugar per 100g serving.

Although I usually stick to the plain which has about half the amount of sugar or less.

I promise I’m not sponsored by Fage 😂 they’re just my go-to for yoghurts.

cordeliabuffy · 28/09/2025 22:02

ParmaVioletTea · 28/09/2025 20:27

I think you’re eating both too much and not enough @Morgun

Not enough protein and vegetables and too many high calorie but blood sugar spiking “white” carbs.

You need to eat far more protein and far less simple carbohydrates. Substitute pasta salad for a huge lot of steamed or roasted vegetables with olive oil dressing just to give it a bit of nice “mouth feel.”

With the bolognaise, have the bolognaise sauce over courgettes or squash or even sweet potato.

Cut the low fat UPF yoghurts. Eat Greek yoghurt which just contains milk and yoghurt culture. Add a tablespoon of honey or a banana for sweetness.

Crisps are a luxury. They’re empty calories. If you like the salt try a bowl of steamed broccoli with soy sauce.

You don’t have to starve yourself - you can eat a huge amount of green and leafy and orange/red/ yellow vegetables. A grilled pepper will make anything taste good to me!

That ^^
i am so bad at doing this myself but I feel better when I do

scrambled eggs are good but you can add roasted tomatoes, loads of spinach, mushrooms etc for not many more calories at all
salad - have an entire bag of salad leaves plus all the salad veg like onion, radish, cucumber, add pickled onions or gherkins and protein etc
use a tiny bit of butter and saute chopped cabbage and leeks, roast some carrots etc

DidIForgetPEAgain · 28/09/2025 22:10

Allisnotlost1 · 28/09/2025 21:13

ive seen a lot of recommendations for switching to full fat yoghurt. I think a better one is to switch to plain Greek or natural yoghurt, either full fat or 0% fat.

Yes, you’re right. Ideally switch to kefir or something with live strains of probiotics, because your microbiome also plays a big role here. Also make sure you’re hydrated, often we mistake thirst for hunger. Caffeine is a diuretic as well, so lots of water

HorrorFan81 · 28/09/2025 22:10

Yeah sorry OP you might be eating less than before but its too many calories (if it wasnt you would be losing weight) and too carb heavy. I recently lost 50lbs and my day would look like:

Breakfast: full fat Greek yoghurt, chia seeds, berries and cherries
Lunch: salad with loads of leaves, tomatoes, cucumber, peppers etc, avocado, protein (chicken or salmon or cottage cheese)
Dinner: protein (something different to lunch) and loads of low carb veg (brocoli, cauliflower, cabbage)

I also walked 10-20k steps a day and did heavy weights 3 times a week. That's a bonus tho. Its really about what you're eating/drinking

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 22:12

Cut the low fat UPF yoghurts. Eat Greek yoghurt which just contains milk and yoghurt culture. Add a tablespoon of honey or a banana for sweetness.

Agree 90%- but you don't need a tablespoon of honey.😮 That's loads- about 5 teaspoons in a tablespoon, so very high sugar.

If you use decent honey you can get away with 1/2 a teaspoon in 150gms yoghurt.

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 22:17

DidIForgetPEAgain · 28/09/2025 22:10

Yes, you’re right. Ideally switch to kefir or something with live strains of probiotics, because your microbiome also plays a big role here. Also make sure you’re hydrated, often we mistake thirst for hunger. Caffeine is a diuretic as well, so lots of water

Plain Greek yoghurt is made with live bacteria and is classed as a fermented food.

They do 5%, 2% and 0%.

Women's saturated fat intake over a day is around 20gms max.
So even 200mgs of 5% yoghurt = 10gms.

That leaves plenty for the rest of the day and if you eat lean meat or fish you'll be well within the limit (a lot of fat is 'hidden' fat in biscuits, pastry, and ready meals.)

fruitypancake · 28/09/2025 22:23

Porridge or toast , no bread with lunch, no bread with pasta , no biscuits

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 22:23

Morgun · 28/09/2025 19:45

thanks everyone but people keep dating I’m eating 3 breakfasts etc, I’m not.

Breakfast is 40g porridge oats which is the recommended serving size on the box. When cooked (semi skimmed) it barely fills 1/4 of the bowl. The toast is wholemeal from a 400g loaf, 64 calories a slice. The yogurt is fat free.

I don’t have pasta salad and a sandwhich, it’s pasta salad with a small wholemeal roll. Nothing in it other than low fat spread. The crisps are 88 calories.

Spag Bol made with 125g lean mince and the rest is just veg. 75g spaghetti. The garlic bread is sliced small baguette.

You asked for comments and you don't like what's posted.

You are having 3 different breakfasts. Cut out the toast and have the yoghurt, but have full fat, no sugar, as it will keep you fuller longer so you won't need to snack on sugar or carbs.

Many of us who have porridge have 40gms. And that's it- with some fruit.
You don't need toast as well.

Likewise, you're doubling up on carbs for lunch.
Most people have pasta OR a roll. Or- here's an idea- have a meal with NO carbs! You can make a great salad without pasta. If you want some carbs, look at adding some chickpeas or white beans, Puy lentils, or other pulses.

88 cals on crisps is a waste of calories. Have an apple or an orange or any other fruit.

Low fat spread is just an ultra processed margarine with water whipped in to make it 'lighter'. If you need to use anything have a tiny amount of real butter, (ideally grass fed as it has a different and better range of omega fats.

And again...why do people eat garlic bread with spag bol?
No one ever used to- it was brought on m by restaurants trying to sell more stuff.

Honestly, OP if you want advice at least try to listen when everyone is saying the same thing.

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 22:30

Venecja · 28/09/2025 22:01

If Op is taking any of this in re. Yoghurts I have fage high protein Greek yoghurt 0% - 5% fat and it’s not sugary. It has such a lovely creamy texture it’s my fave!

But I believe there are even a few flavoured ones that aren’t too high in sugar nowadays.
Fage has brought out a line of fruit yoghurts and they’re about 7g sugar per 100g serving.

Although I usually stick to the plain which has about half the amount of sugar or less.

I promise I’m not sponsored by Fage 😂 they’re just my go-to for yoghurts.

The sugar in Fage 5% is not added sugar, it's milk sugar- lactase.

Calliopespa · 28/09/2025 22:47

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 22:23

You asked for comments and you don't like what's posted.

You are having 3 different breakfasts. Cut out the toast and have the yoghurt, but have full fat, no sugar, as it will keep you fuller longer so you won't need to snack on sugar or carbs.

Many of us who have porridge have 40gms. And that's it- with some fruit.
You don't need toast as well.

Likewise, you're doubling up on carbs for lunch.
Most people have pasta OR a roll. Or- here's an idea- have a meal with NO carbs! You can make a great salad without pasta. If you want some carbs, look at adding some chickpeas or white beans, Puy lentils, or other pulses.

88 cals on crisps is a waste of calories. Have an apple or an orange or any other fruit.

Low fat spread is just an ultra processed margarine with water whipped in to make it 'lighter'. If you need to use anything have a tiny amount of real butter, (ideally grass fed as it has a different and better range of omega fats.

And again...why do people eat garlic bread with spag bol?
No one ever used to- it was brought on m by restaurants trying to sell more stuff.

Honestly, OP if you want advice at least try to listen when everyone is saying the same thing.

Edited

TBH lots of people are saying have the porridge with some fruit but actually the protein in a plain Greek yoghurt would be a more balanced breakfast than a carb-heavy porridge and fruit meal. The protein balances` out the carb and i think it's fine for her to have some on her porridge. I wouldn't call that two breakfasts.

tinyspiny · 28/09/2025 22:47

You still seem to be missing the point @Morgun , a 40g serving may only fill a tiny portion of the bowl but that is a serving and is an entire breakfast to most people .

Calliopespa · 28/09/2025 22:48

tinyspiny · 28/09/2025 22:47

You still seem to be missing the point @Morgun , a 40g serving may only fill a tiny portion of the bowl but that is a serving and is an entire breakfast to most people .

I'd put plain Greek yoghurt on it.

Venecja · 28/09/2025 22:49

snappyshopper · 28/09/2025 22:30

The sugar in Fage 5% is not added sugar, it's milk sugar- lactase.

Yep. Yay for Fage. It’s a great choice :D

Calliopespa · 28/09/2025 22:50

Venecja · 28/09/2025 22:49

Yep. Yay for Fage. It’s a great choice :D

I love it! 5 percent for me with a handful of raspberries and some chopped almonds!

Venecja · 28/09/2025 23:01

Calliopespa · 28/09/2025 22:50

I love it! 5 percent for me with a handful of raspberries and some chopped almonds!

Yes! 5% Fage and raspberries is an elite pairing 😆 ah the almonds would give it a great crunch :D

MumWifeOther · 28/09/2025 23:06

Morgun · 28/09/2025 19:45

thanks everyone but people keep dating I’m eating 3 breakfasts etc, I’m not.

Breakfast is 40g porridge oats which is the recommended serving size on the box. When cooked (semi skimmed) it barely fills 1/4 of the bowl. The toast is wholemeal from a 400g loaf, 64 calories a slice. The yogurt is fat free.

I don’t have pasta salad and a sandwhich, it’s pasta salad with a small wholemeal roll. Nothing in it other than low fat spread. The crisps are 88 calories.

Spag Bol made with 125g lean mince and the rest is just veg. 75g spaghetti. The garlic bread is sliced small baguette.

It is still unneccesary to eat a bowl of porridge AND toast AND a yogurt. If the recommended portion is 40g then it equals one meal.

The fact that you’re not losing weight is because you’re not in a calorie defecit. You are eating too many calories, not burning enough and on top of that, you are eating the wrong foods. For example, porridge is awful for spiking blood sugars. Crisps are empty calories. Etc. You need way less carbs, more protein.

MumWifeOther · 28/09/2025 23:12

Bambamhoohoo · 28/09/2025 21:07

How is a couple of eggs more nutritious than porridge, wholemeal toast and yogurt?!?

Eggs are a powerhouse. Packed with protein, iron, choline, b12. Much better than porridge! Most wholemeal bread is absolute rubbish. Eggs & a slice of proper toasted rye bread or sourdough would make a much better breakfast.

Alternatively, plain or Greek yogurt with a drizzle of honey or maple, and some berries.

No one needs to eat 3 breakfasts in one sitting.

justasking111 · 28/09/2025 23:27

@Morgun I'm one of the unlucky ones with PCOS. When I need to lose weight the only way is to cut out carbs for breakfast and lunch. I save the carbs for my evening meal. Even then I can't go mad. It's very tiresome, but has been the same since puberty. Before that I was the skinniest kid on the block.

Calliopespa · 29/09/2025 00:00

MumWifeOther · 28/09/2025 23:06

It is still unneccesary to eat a bowl of porridge AND toast AND a yogurt. If the recommended portion is 40g then it equals one meal.

The fact that you’re not losing weight is because you’re not in a calorie defecit. You are eating too many calories, not burning enough and on top of that, you are eating the wrong foods. For example, porridge is awful for spiking blood sugars. Crisps are empty calories. Etc. You need way less carbs, more protein.

Edited

porridge made from steel cut or whole rolled oats and served with greek yoghurt is fine for blood sugar. It is also a particularly rich source of fibre and beta-glucan which encourages healthy gut bacteria. I think you are being unduly harsh on porridge. The best approach of all is to switch between the two: eggs one day, porridge the next.

MumWifeOther · 29/09/2025 00:04

Calliopespa · 29/09/2025 00:00

porridge made from steel cut or whole rolled oats and served with greek yoghurt is fine for blood sugar. It is also a particularly rich source of fibre and beta-glucan which encourages healthy gut bacteria. I think you are being unduly harsh on porridge. The best approach of all is to switch between the two: eggs one day, porridge the next.

I have to disagree. I measured my blood sugar for a week after eating certain foods and porridge oats spiked them the highest. It may be different for others, but since I’ve not included them in my diet. Definitely don’t recommend for anyone trying to lose weight.

Allisnotlost1 · 29/09/2025 00:27

MumWifeOther · 29/09/2025 00:04

I have to disagree. I measured my blood sugar for a week after eating certain foods and porridge oats spiked them the highest. It may be different for others, but since I’ve not included them in my diet. Definitely don’t recommend for anyone trying to lose weight.

What other foods did you test blood sugar with?

MumWifeOther · 29/09/2025 00:27

Allisnotlost1 · 29/09/2025 00:27

What other foods did you test blood sugar with?

All the things I would eat regularly. After each meal for a week. The other thing that spikes them a lot was white potato!