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dh banned from school playground after dd bullied for two years

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flabulousdarling · 29/06/2010 12:29

Hello everybody, I would be interested in hearing your opinion on this situation. Apologies for the extremely long post.

My 9 year old dd has been bullied for the last two years including kicking, name calling, teasing because of her disability, the excluding of dd and running away from her(she is often on her own in the playground)and having a ball thrown at her head deliberately. Lately there have been two girls who have targeted dd. DD has low self-esteem now and never wants to go to school.

We have complained on and off about this behaviour via letters and meetings but respite only lasts for a short while before it starts again.

After sending a letter to the teacher and receiving no response, and after yet another kicking incident, my dh went in to the school from the playground whilst I waited to pick up our dd's and took them home.

He was outside the classroom when someone called out the first bullies name. He confirmed with the child who they were and said 'Leave dd alone'. He went into the classroom only to find that her teacher (yet again) wasn't there.

As he left, another teacher followed him out of the playground telling him off for what he had done, dh responded saying he didn't care anymore and that the school had done nothing to protect dd. There is no doubt my dh was het up and upset, but he is a shy man and it took a lot for him to go to the school.

He went into the school office to tell the assistant head that he had spoken to the child (there are three asssistant heads as current head hasn't retired yet - we never see him at school though). There followed a discussion led by dh about their lack of action where dd was concerned, whilst dd had bruises on her legs from the kickings they were deemed 'old' and insufficient proof. For all the other incidences there was also no proof so they couldn't do anything they said. These children's parents work at the school and we feel that this may have something to do with the two bullies getting away with their behaviour.

My dh received a letter from the actual head to say that dh was banned from the playground (where parents pick up their dcs) that he had terrifed two children and had used offensive llanguage and threatened teachers. It said that if he was to set foot in the playground again they would call the police. DH is adament he only spoke to one child, the two bullies are best friends though, as are their mums. He is certain he didn't swear, he admits he was upset but didn't shout.

The very next day after the incident the two children bullied dd again at school (if dh had terrified them would they do this?)

I collected dd myself yesterday and there was a police officer in the playground presumably waiting for dh to attempt to pick up dd.

We feel that they are victimising our family as we have found dd another school and they were already aware we are very unhappy about the two years of bullying dd has endured.

We feel they are attempting to smear dh's character. I have requested a meeting with the Head and said that their account is incorrect. However with teachers singing off the same hymn sheet, one of which the Head is having an affair with - (I know this through a teachers friend who used to work there). We feel we don't have a leg to stand on - they are definitely closing ranks. I am stressed but dh is very calm he just says ' I have done nothing wrong'.

The Head who is married, is recommending the assistant head (his lover) for headship next year. It is very hard to take him seriously when he is so obviously immoral and corrupt.

I know that dh shouldn't have spoken to the bully but it was a spur of the moment thing. Our dd has been upset for so long you just feel enough is enough especially when the school has been so unsupportive.

My main concern to be honest is the slur on our family and this account following them on to their next school.

If you have got this far thanks for reading, I really would appreciate your thoughts on this.

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flabulousdarling · 29/06/2010 13:13

dh said most people had left the playground when he exited. Probably already look like a loon but I won't involve PTA!

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scurryfunge · 29/06/2010 13:15

How old are the offenders the Police will not investigate a crime if they are under 10.

flabulousdarling · 29/06/2010 13:19

They are under 10 scurry

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mumblechum · 29/06/2010 13:19

The police obviously weren't there to keep an eye on the children. It was the OPs dh they were concerned about.

mumblechum · 29/06/2010 13:20

I'd be inclined to let it go & I hope you get the fresh start you're hoping for.

scurryfunge · 29/06/2010 13:21

You will find that the Police will not deal with this then....though you could ask that a PCSO has a word with the families, though this could inflame the situation. Best dealt with via the LEA,as suggested.

AgentZigzag · 29/06/2010 13:21

jeee, if the OP does just leave it, that condones how the school is not dealing with the matter, what about all the other children who have to go there every day?

I had the going round and round in circles thing, trying to sort out what had happened to DD1 in her first school. I'd go to the LEA, who would tell me to go to the school again, I'd go there and the head would pass the buck to the LEA and the teachers.

It made me feel so powerless, that I got to the point where I was looking at where I could go, the press? My MP?

I did eventually leave it even though I felt like I said above, that I would be leaving other children to be dealt with like this, but the amount of time and the intensiveness of it just ground me down in the end.

The papers I kept filled a bulging folder, and I was left trying to feel better that at least I'd tried to do something even if I'd got nowhere.

It makes me so angry that it's always the victims who 'have' to move, school should be a safe place for every child.

DinahRod · 29/06/2010 13:22

My father is London based. You are getting v good advice on here, but if you want I can put you in contact with him via d i n a h r o d at virginmedia.com

flabulousdarling · 29/06/2010 13:24

I am defo going down the Governors route and will get my hands on the relevant policies.

DD has mentioned she wants to finish the year as there are lots of activities she doesn't want to miss - she's a tough old bird. I guess when you've had two years of it another two weeks is nothing.

She received the local areas child of courage award recently for just getting on with her disability and never complaining and it was certainly deserved.

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jeee · 29/06/2010 13:25

AgentZigzag, in theory I'd agree with you. But in practice, taking on a system can be enormously stressful, and upsetting, and the OP has said she hates confrontation. Sometimes people need to do what's right for them, and not worry about the wider implications.

jeee · 29/06/2010 13:26

And flabulousdarling - your DD sounds a hero. Best wishes to her, and you.

Coca · 29/06/2010 13:29

God what a horrible situation, we had a much more serious incident at our school and the mother (physically threatened a 10 yr old) is still walking round as if nothing happened. I think your DH did nothing wrong providing that he didn't threaten the bullies. Your poor family.

flabulousdarling · 29/06/2010 13:30

I really feel for anyone that is going thru this sort of thing as agentzigzag says, you just feel powerless batted back and forth to people.

It's a pretty powerful machine - you can't complain to Ofsted, you can't complain to General Teaching Council, you can't complain to the LEA (unless you have been dealt with previously by Governors). There seems to be no 'body' that can intervene and ensure impartiality - so frustrating really.

I have received excellent advice and as a lurker generally I'm so glad I shared this with all of you, thank you all so much.

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CantSupinate · 29/06/2010 13:31

All your husband did was say to a child "Leave DD's name alone" -- and he got banned from the playground for that???
Seriously?

piratecat · 29/06/2010 13:32

she sounds like a star, you must be so so porud of her.

flabulousdarling · 29/06/2010 13:32

Dinahrod sorry I meant to say I will email you thanks for that.

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AgentZigzag · 29/06/2010 13:34

I can totally see what you're saying jeee, but are the schools/LEA aware of the minefield that complaining against a school can be?

I'm not saying they do it on purpose much but they go happily along thinking everything's great with their school, when clearly it most definately is not.

Nobody says anything because it's too much hard work, the inspectors come round and everything seems fine on paper with no formal complaints, and the school is never challenged.

I'm not a confrontational person either, but the thought of what happened to DD1 and must have been happening to others gave me the strength to at least question them.

Nobody wants to take on a giant, but they'll carry on not implimenting their (IMO) crappy bullying policies if nobody takes the buggers on.

flabulousdarling · 29/06/2010 13:38

Yes cantsupinate, to one child not two as they allege and both children were 'crying and shaking with fear'.

This is the problem whenever their behaviour towards dd is challenged they cry and the teacher says ' they wouldn't do that' or 'it's just a misunderstanding'. They are so sneaky and manipulative.

It was a child's birthday yesterday and all the children got a cake except for dd (liver problem) they looked at dd and said why aren't you having one dd explained why and one said to the other 'bully1 isn't this cake yummy mmm'

Pathetic aren't they. Dd told teacher who said that she had walked past and heard them asking about her disorder and not being mean! GRRR

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flabulousdarling · 29/06/2010 13:43

I will try my best to challenge them and see what happens...I agree that is why so many schools have great records on bullying - parents just give up eventually.

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AgentZigzag · 29/06/2010 13:49

The school should have effectively dealt with your DDs bullies straight away.

They didn't, and they should be held responsible for that.

Who are they to treat you, your DH and your DD with so little regard??

flabulousdarling · 29/06/2010 13:52

They just tell me that they have spoken to so and so (no sanction) and they are monitoring the situation. Monitor is their favourite word - it seems to be their get out clause.

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flabulousdarling · 29/06/2010 13:56

oh and I forgot to mention her class teacher said that she had been a teacher for many years and that dd is happy in class always ready to contribute. In past situations she could tell the troubled children as they are withdrawn and isolated from the others. Basically dd doesn't fit her profile of a bullied child I suppose.

DD has told me 'I love learning though' (thank god)

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NoSleepTillWeaning · 29/06/2010 14:04

I agree with others : approaching the governors is your best approach. They have a duty to safeguard children while at school after all, and to ensure HT and school is applying it's anti bullying policies effectively. Do you know any of the parent governors?

AgentZigzag · 29/06/2010 14:05

Ahhh yes, the 'lets monitor things in the hope that they or you will go away'

And for what it's worth, I felt there was a certain amount of collusion between the LEA/Head/teachers for the benefit of looking like they had a 'good' school.

NoSleepTillWeaning · 29/06/2010 14:06

Oops: its (blooming auto correct thingy).