guess who it is again!!!!

[starlover]

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Ok... have been using the domperidone with fantastic results.

Now the problem is that DS is just refusing POINT BLANK to b/f. If I so much as SHOW him a boob he screams!!!

I have thought about just not giving him a bottle. GOing cold turkey and just keep offering breast.... but am scared he will just scream and scream and not take anything.

Is it a reeeeeeeeally bad idea... or could it work? I am trying to offer the breast at each feed, and even between feeds... but to no avail...

Any other ideas?

yeah we do snuggle up for feeds (most of the time).. i have been holding the bottle by my boob, so that he is in an almost b/f position when he has it.

thanks for that link mears... am just reading through it...

i think that part of the problem is just lack of time. i feel like i have so much to do... the house is a mess, dentist appts, baby clinic... etc etc...

i am just finding it impossible to have enough time to be expressing every 3 hours, plus feeding ds, spending some time with him, doing the housework. DP is working long hours so can't help that much.
I will admit i am no domestic goddess... but even just doing the bare minimum (washing nappies etc) seems to take up so much time!

I have such a problem motivating myself to express. when i was doing it before ds had only just been born and DP was at home so he MADE me do it... have been thinking about seeing if he can get some time off work to give me a hand,

it all seems so extreme!

You know that doesn't sound like a bad idea Starlover, seeing if DH get time off work. You do need help to be able to keep up with this demanding schedule. Does DS ever go to the breast at all?

he did a few days ago... but when he realised what he'd done he started screaming! LOL

I have to say, i am feeling a bit more positive having read the stuff in that link. Especially about relactation, and the face that you can b/f an adopted child!!! If someone can do that then surely I can do this!

I have no plans for mon and tues coming up... so will have at least 2 days to relax a bit with DS.

He is ok being held by the breast now, and will tolerate it near his mouth but not in it...
i think partly of the problem is that i am too impatient... i want instant results.
You already know that he was bottlefed for over a week when he was born, and i kept trying him at the breast each feed time and one day he just took it!... i think i was expecting it to work like that again!

My turn now SL to get my own back on you stalking me

No Advice at all (and after all you have the experts here !), cos as you know, I never managed to get dd to breastfeed and spent quite a while expressing in the early days but just to say, please try and not feel guilty if it doesn't work - you've done a great job bf-ing Linus so far. Hopefully all the advice might work but if not it doesn't seem to be doing the gorgeous one any harm !! Also doesn't seem to have done my gorgeous one any harm either - I felt really guilty for a while until I looked at it objectively and realised she was doing so well (if I could work out how I would post a piccie to show you !!)

Good luck anyway and enjoy your snuggles with Linus.

Hi Starlover, joining the thread late to add some moral support and a bit of advice.
I know how you feel. I had to express for the first two months as bf was a bit hit and miss. My ds wouldn't latch 50% of the time and refused the breast as well. I reckon you should get dp to take a bit more time off work, just to help things bed in. I'm sure you will turn the corner soon and then you won't need to express, but it's important to keep it up so that your milk supply is stimulated.
Stuff the housework though.
To be honest - I use cloth nappies, but I would buy eco-disps as a temp measure to get breastfeeding going - feeding would win hands down for me, if I had to choose.
Expressing is a pain though and the more you hate it the worse it gets.
I used the medela feeding cup as well, which is supposed to keep the tongue in the correct position for bf - very messy though.
I've got some cups somewhere if you want one, but you can buy them online for just under £5 for 10.
I don't know if this will help, but my routine was - every three hours (from end of last feed) massage, hand express a little bit, try with breast a max of 5 times (to stop stressing baby), feed with ebm and maybe topup with formula, do breastpump for 20 mins. Nightmare! But it did work. Exclusively breast fed from about week 10 or 12 (can't quite remember). Now weaning and bf only.
Bathing together does work, if you do it every day, plus its very relaxing.
I know I'm being slow, but what pump are you using? You can save time if you have two or three sterilising, less faffing.
Also took herbal tinctures from Napiers which worked really well: Alfalfa and Goat's Rue.

at the moment i am using a medela lactaline which i am hiring (at exorbitant cost!)...
i have 2 sets of bottles and the bit you put on the breast though, as i also have a medela mini electric pump.
and i have an avent isis hand pump.
it DOES make it so much easier having 3 things on the go.

I think when i was doing this first time round it was easier because apart from having dp at home, i had no expectations from anyone else. I never had to go out and do stuff. it's so difficult isn't it.

have written myself out an action plan... and will ask dp tonight about taking time off work.

am so glad to hear that it can be done though maisiemog!

Hi. I don't want to hjghjack this thread, but I am having a really similar problem and I'd so appreciate some help. I'm going to start a new thread - could you help me too?

Thanks,
JennyWren

oh hijack away! i am always doing it to other peoples threads!!!

They get very stubborn at this age starlover! ds3 is eventually taking the bottle but nearly had to starve him into it. He will also not take the bottle in the living-room because thats where I bf him, have to go to dh's study!

Thank Starlover! I did eventually get my thread started - two feeds and three pumps later! Please let me know if you have a breakthrough! I'm going to try Mears' rebirthing suggestion tomorrow - keep your fingers crossed for us!