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wind or vomiting - it seems i have to choose!

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olivo · 05/10/2009 19:03

DD has been on gaviscon for about 10 days now - it has hugely helped the vomiting but given her awful wind which disrupts her (and consequently, my) sleep all night. do i stop thegaviscon and let her suffer the reflux or carry on and she has to put up with the wind? she looks so distressed trying to get it out.
would giving her a reduced dose of gaviscon do any good? my dr wasn't very helpful.

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Longtalljosie · 14/10/2009 09:52

Oh no Roslily! How much is he having? And of that (I remember you said he spits it out?) how much do you think he ingested?

Update on us - we've just been prescribed Ranitidine. Dose 1 this morning - will let you know how it goes

PolarMummy · 14/10/2009 13:37

Roslily, the gaviscon wont necessarily stop the vomiting but what it should do is deal with the acid so that the vomiting doesn't bother your LO, if they are vomiting loads you may need to put them on a thickener as well like carobel.

Is your LO a happier vomiter or do they seem really uncomfortable as well?

roslily · 14/10/2009 14:30

Well we've had lots of screaming today still. He doesn't seem that bothered by the vomiting, but it is quite a lot and projectile!

I will persevere. He doesn't arch his back anymore, but definitely prefers being upright. Maybe it isn't reflux.

Longtalljosie · 14/10/2009 15:50

It sounds like it is...

climbeverymountain · 14/10/2009 17:45

PolarMummy what you said about no longer knowing what the crying is about, that is what I feel like today! It feels like DD has cried nearly all day today

DD also writhes around at night and cries during her sleep... She never used to pre-gaviscon...

Longtalljosie · 14/10/2009 21:10

Yes, my DD did as well - I put it down to trapped wind and constipation. And I'd get upset, and think - right that's it, no more Gaviscon - and then of course she was much worse.

She's been OK today on the Ranitidine - a bit tearful around lunchtime - but it's too early to tell what it will be like just yet, it's only day 1

PolarMummy · 14/10/2009 22:16

Roslily, it does sound like reflux but the gaviscon may not thicken his food enough, my eldest child had reflux too, I used to feel like I had been bathed in reguritated milk but she didn't seem to have the acid side of things so I put her on carobel and that sorted her out, no more vomiting. So your little one may need to be on an ant-acid and a thickener, your GP or Health Visiter should be able to determine this.

Climbeverymountain, I found that the grunting and writhing my DS was doing was down to wind and I have been winding him LOADS during his feeds this does seem to be helping. Have you tried some boiled cooled water to see if that helps them shift the wind?

Since the beginning of the week he has been much more settled, he has actually slept at night, my day hasnt started at 2am the last couple of days.

Hoping you all have a good night tonight

Longtalljosie · 15/10/2009 07:41

Polarmummy - Infant Gaviscon does thicken breastmilk though? Did it just not thicken it enough for your LO?

olivo · 15/10/2009 09:10

morning all. i have had enough, we are back to the DR this morning . evenings are still particular hell and i am ot getting much sleep due to DDs vomiting through the nose and grubing and straining.

this whole refulx thing is crap, isn't it?

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Longtalljosie · 15/10/2009 12:36

It is...

It's only day 2 and heaven knows I don't want to jinx myself - but I'm cautiously optimistic about the Ranitidine. It's a hell of a lot easier to administer. There are one or two grizzling sessions which I think are a mild echo of the reflux - but no constipation - she's pooing like a trooper - had forgotten how many nappies a properly pooing baby gets through!

The other thing Olivo is I have propped the cot up on thick books - it seems to have stopped her vomiting during her morning nap (again don't want to jinx myself1)

olivo · 15/10/2009 13:11

we're back..... with a bottle of domperidone. Dr wouldn't give ranatidine, looked lots of things up and then prescribed this.
at least, like you LTJ, much easier to administer, 1 - 1 1/2ml before a feed, 4 x a day

apologies for my awful typing in previous post, was not having a good morning!

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Longtalljosie · 15/10/2009 14:21

I've been on domperidone myself, when I had tummy trouble. It essentially clears out the stomach. It may well do the trick - let us know how it goes...

olivo · 15/10/2009 14:30

thanks LTJ . i think i had it too, a long time ago. here's hoping we all get some sleep tonight......good luck, all!

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PolarMummy · 15/10/2009 14:50

LTJ sorry my post might have been confusing, I know that Gaviscon does thicken the breast milk but it doesn't thicken it as much as an actual thickener. So Roslily might need to get an additional thickener for her LO as well as the gaviscon.

I have also propped up the cot on books and I do think this has made a difference, mind you we didn't have a great night last night.

I do now believe that the grunting DS is doing is now due to trapped wind and whenever he is feeding from me he seems to be taking in a lot of wind so I am really torn as to what to do. I really want to breastfeed but if DS is going to take in loads of wind this way (he has a tongue tie which is affecting his latch a bit) and be uncomfortable then surely I would be better to express and bottle feed him?!?! Oh the decisions! It never seems to be straight forward

roslily · 15/10/2009 16:04

So far my ds is pooing ok. Although I am giving him a little water each day.

Problem is the feeds where I can't use gaviscon- lots of screams and vomiting. I might ask doctor about enfamil AR. Someone at my baby group used it for her dd, and said it was wonderful. Seeing as he is already on formula.

Saying that he is a much happier bunny on formula, he obviously hasn't read all the studies about breastfeeding ;)

Longtalljosie · 15/10/2009 17:07

I wonder why that is Roslily? Because it's thicker, do you think? In that case maybe Polarmummy's suggestion of a thickener is the way forward...

Polarmummy - perhaps if you just expressed the main night feed, or if you're good at expressing, the main two?

And yes - good luck everyone for tonight!

roslily · 15/10/2009 20:41

Gah. Screaming, thick cottage cheese vomit and hardly eating. But lots of fist chewing and tongue hunger signs, but not interested when offered milk.

Think I will go back to doctors. Not sure about thickness. I tried aptamil thicker formula, but it didn't seem to make much difference to the vomiting.

Longtalljosie · 15/10/2009 20:44

We're having a very unsettled night too. Screaming from 7.30 until 5 minutes ago. Now fallen asleep in DH"s arms but we'll have to see if that survives the transition to the cot...

roslily · 15/10/2009 22:41

Gah. Screaming, thick cottage cheese vomit and hardly eating. But lots of fist chewing and tongue hunger signs, but not interested when offered milk.

Think I will go back to doctors. Not sure about thickness. I tried aptamil thicker formula, but it didn't seem to make much difference to the vomiting.

olivo · 16/10/2009 08:28

hope everyone got some sleep in the end. after about 5hours of screaming in the afternoon and evening, DD went off fairly peacefully at 9.30 and wasnt grunting and straining nearly half as much during the night. i didnt give the domp. and she was sick after the 5am feed but a definite improvement for now!

sorry to hear you're still getting the vomiting roselily - no doubt your washing machine is working overtime like ours! is he a happy puker? DD1 was a happy puker and it wasnt as bad, just messy!

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Longtalljosie · 16/10/2009 08:42

The screaming kicked off again at 9.30 and carried on until just after midnight .

And that was probably only because we gave her Gaviscon in her expressed feed (which we gave her at 10.30). The pharmacist said it was OK to give both, although obviously I don't want to...

The pharmacist also said Ranitidine took 3 days to properly take effect. So we could have a better night tonight... or not.

Almost out of Gaviscon as well - will have to try to talk the doctors into giving us a repeat prescription

olivo · 16/10/2009 08:51

oh no!
really hope for you that it starts kicking in today.fingers crossed...

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Longtalljosie · 16/10/2009 13:26

Thanks Olivo . Have been told by the doctor it's OK to use them both in tandem, so am thinking for a couple of days I might give it before bed and also at midnight. That might give it a chance to get up to speed without her being in discomfort in the meantime...

Longtalljosie · 16/10/2009 16:16

Ooh! Look at these!

olivo · 16/10/2009 17:36

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