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PRODUCTS - Farleys now HEINZ Nurture...PRICE INCREASE!!!!

136 replies

rebstoddy · 08/07/2008 13:19

I know from reading the message boards that there are lots of unhappy mums out there , due to the increase price, per tin of £3.30 that has been added to the Heinz nurture milk, which was formerly known as FARLEYS. I have twins, this is a MASSIVE increase for us & we should come together to do something about this, to show HEINZ that consumers DO still have power! The thing that annoys me the most is this price increase could have been notified, as the change of tins was notified. It's not ok to just change our babies formula over, this can cause stomach upset, constipation, vomiting. Heinz try to tell us they care for our babies, CLEARLY, they are all about PROFIT ...so let's hit 'em where it hurts!!!
We should boycott Heinz products for a week, all of their products, for one week. Believe me, they will notice the decrease in sales. Get all your friends to do it too, even if they have NOT been affected by this sly price increase. Please, let me know by answering this thread, if you think, collectively, as mumsnet mummies, that we could arrange this.
best regards, ANGRY MUM of twins x

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QueenBhannae · 15/07/2008 22:29

Googled it lol

LackaDAISYcal · 15/07/2008 22:31

it's about not being allowed, by law, to promote infant milks. Price reduction = promotion

tiktok · 15/07/2008 23:41

Daisy, that's part of the story only.

It's because a temporary discount gives a false notion of the cost of formula feeding. For mothers on a tight budget this (it is thought) might have the effect of encouraging formula feeding, then two weeks later they find they cannot afford to stick with formula and they might use something less suitable instead (or dilute the formula to make it go further).

In reality, a few pence off in the UK is probably not going to have this effect, but the £3-£4 extra that someone might end up paying (after this Farleys debacle) could make a difference to someone's budget and affect the rest of their shopping basket.

Permanent low prices are legal, BTW.

LackaDAISYcal · 16/07/2008 08:19

thanks tiktok...this is all going in my little black book

camousean · 16/07/2008 08:43

But these high prices just aren't right for us on a low budget and unable to bf!

tiktok · 16/07/2008 09:04

camousean, you are right. Formula is a product with a great deal of marketing - advertising, promotion, teams of reps, 'carelines' - and this cost is passed on to the consumer. The actual product cannot be hugely expensive to make, if you compare it with ordinary powdered milk even if you add a generous couple of quid on for the prebiotics and what not. But ordinary powdered milk is not marketed in the same way.

Manufacturers can charge more or less what they want - see the Heinze Nurture debacle.

The fairer way of costing formula would be to have permanent low prices across all brands.

rebstoddy · 16/07/2008 11:16

tiktok you are EXACTLY right about the prices. When I used to live in somerset, C&G had a factory in the city I lived - my brother worked at that factory. He could purchase for me, 6 tins of C&G formula for £20 & I am talking just 6 years ago!!!! The money they are making from formula is ENORMOUS & it really is greed, there is no other word for it. Yes, I breast fed all 4 of mine, some longer than others but if you choose not to - or CAN'T - you really are held at gunpoint with these artificially high prices. I fully intend to boycott HEINZ products for ever - not just the baby related items. These large companies MUST be made to realise that WE, the CONSUMERS do have the POWER!

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tiktok · 16/07/2008 11:26

Is there a market for a 'Basics' infant formula? Selling at £2 a pack? Permanently? Or does the fact that all brands (except one) sell at prices within 50p or £1 of one another mean that customers would think it was poor quality? They would see no expensive promotion of this formula, which would allow prices to be kept low. Advertising seems to reassure consumers that the product they have bought is 'ok' - totally spurious, of course, as the product is the product, whether or not it is advertised, obviously...

sabire · 16/07/2008 11:51

tiktok - that's a fascinating question.

I remember having this discussion on a different board.

The vast majority of adults in the UK have been fed in infancy on what today would be described as a 'no frills' formula.

On that score - why wouldn't there be people who would be willing to buy this product now for their babies (on the strength of the argument - 'this is what I was fed on and it hasn't done me any harm', something I've often heard said in relation to formula).

misdee · 16/07/2008 12:17

i owuld prefer 'n0-frills' formula if i had to., just a basic, no added probiotics etc formula would be good.

as long as it contained all the nutriants required, then it wouldnt be an issue

MatNanPlus · 16/07/2008 14:48

that is HIPP in all essence isn't it as most additives aren't organic so not in their milk, same with NannyCare.

kiskidee · 17/07/2008 05:15

yes, yes, the daily mail but has this article been linked to before?

kiskidee · 17/07/2008 05:29

oops meant to start a new thread. sorry.

simpson · 17/07/2008 23:39

Has anyone had a response from Heinz from Naetha's link. I complained about price hike etc and boycotting products and got standard email back from them. Surely If people are threatening to boycott they should be a bit more concerned than the email I got.

I quote

"Dear XXX Heinz Nuture is a completely new range of infant formulae with new formulations & new packaging. The RRP for Heinz Nuture is £7.99 (for the standard range) and £8.99 (for the specialist products). This is an increase of vs. the Farleys product range for which the recommended retail price was £5.99.
This increase reflects the changes we have made to the formulation with the inclusion of different & more expensive ingredients such as prebiotics and a different LCP oil blend.
Our packaging has also changed - we have added a scraper bar to help parents easily level off milk powder in each scoop and a more hygienic storage for the scoop which can be stored out of the powder under the cap lid.
We have also extended our infant milk range with a product for babies for sensitive tummies called Nuture Gentle. This will ease some of the digestive problems that babies can experience such as colic, bloating and wind"

What a load of crap, have you ever heard such rubbish!!!

IorekByrnison · 17/07/2008 23:44

Yes. Strangely enough, heard just such a load of crap from thenameisbond on this thread.

tiktok · 18/07/2008 00:01

@ Iorek....yes, it does sound a bit spooky, doesn't it?!

Wonder where Bond is now?

Fiona1970 · 18/07/2008 11:11

I am very grateful to find that I am not the only Mum who has had problems with the change in the formula - I thought it was me as a 1st time Mum being silly, but now I know its the change in the fomula - thanks for that

CharliesnizzysMum · 20/07/2008 19:51

Just a little advice,

i changed my little girl over from Heinz to Hipp Organic milk (priced £4.65 i Asda) and she has been fine, if not better then on Heinz. i think the formula change really messed with her tummy but the hipp seems a lot easier for her to digest, and cheap too

DanJARMouse · 20/07/2008 19:55

simpson - standard email - i got the same, word for word.

Ive switched DS to Hipp Organic (follow on) and he is taking less milk, but thats a good thing! (he is nearly 8mnths and was still on 5-6 8oz bottles a day with farleys hungry baby milk)

He is thriving, eating solids better, poo-ing better and generally happier.

Wish i had started on that in the first place!

Plus another thing i love about Hipp Organic, the packaging is just a cardboard box (that can be recycled) and the shiny tear open resealable bags. Much less waste!

phoebeweebiesmum · 21/07/2008 23:33

Its soooo confusing? I used farleys for almost 3 months now. and are unsure what to use now. You get told 'dont change the milk unless its absoloutly necessary' by the HV. I've been asking for advice from them for ages with ref to my little's ones constipation. But got told to hang in there dont change the milk and keep doing baby massage. Now i have to change the milk as i'm on my last can of farleys and Heinz nuture is not the same blend as farleys. Although they said it was just repackaging. no mention of re-pricing 'cant imagine why!!!!'

gemz84 · 06/08/2008 14:59

hi ladies, this is my first post as i did not know about this site until i was looking for info on this new heinz product as i was disgusted to find they put the price up from £4.98 to £7.99 in my local morrisons.

I was so upset about it refused to buy and my 9mth old is now doing brill on good old cows milk! (well if im going to change it may as well be to that)

I also sent an email to heinz explaining my concerns, and below is what they emailed back to me......

Dear Ms Whetton

Heinz Nurture is a completely new range of infant formulae with new formulations and new packaging. The recommended retail price for Heinz Nurture is £7.99 (for the standard range) and £8.99 (for the specialist products). This is an increase vs. the Farley's product range, for which the recommended retail price was £5.99.

This increase reflects the changes we have made to the formulation with the inclusion of different and more expensive ingredients such as prebiotics and a different LCP oil blend.

Our packaging has also changed - we have added a scraper bar to help parents easily level off the milk powder in each scoop, and a more hygienic storage for the scoop which can now be stored out of the powder under the cap lid.

We have also extended our infant milk range with a product for babies with sensitive tummies, called Nurture Gentle. This will help ease some of the digestive problems that babies can experience such as colic, bloating and wind."

Yours sincerely
Elaine Roby
Consumer Care Co-ordinator

May i just say, i did fine using a knife to scrape my scoop, i did fine putting the scoop back inside the tub and most of all my son did fine drinking the old milk!

becka1 · 06/08/2008 19:31

Has anyone else noticed that ready made cartons of milk have come down in price? I don't know if this is because people have started buying them less with the credit crunch and all that but they used to be 52/54p per carton (200mls) in tesco and boots and now are circa 42p. I'm a bit annoyed as have been feeding DD all year on cartons and just switched to cows mile just as the prices have gone down!!!

gemmabroad555 · 09/08/2008 13:33

Wheres Bond.....fight fight fight

SharonPope · 13/08/2008 08:17

The extra ingredients do not suit everyone, my Son has been on Farleys for 20 months (hates cows milk) and when the milk changed I assumed it was just been re packaged but after 2 days on Nurture milk he developed constant runny poo, needing nappy changes every 30 mins to an hour, this obviously distressed him (and us. After HV telling us we should not change milk unless absolutely necessary then the manufacturers do this. Have found some old Heinz in Lidl and stocked up for a bit but do not know what to do in future when I run out, hope he will just switch to cow's milk but not interested at moment.

BouncingTurtle · 13/08/2008 10:18

Becka - funny that. I filled my car up with petrol, the next day the supermarkets cut the price! 2 weeks later, I still don't need to fill up lol.

Anyhoo back to topic just wanted to say that if anyone lives in Basildon or there around, the Lidl in Laindon (opposite the shopping centre0 as loads of Farley's - the purple tubs and the blue ones, I think they were £4.64 or thereabouts. Sorry can't get some as I was visiting my mum at the time and I am now back home in Teesside. It would be worth checking local Lidl stores, as I'm sure thatcan't be the only one to have them!
HTH