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PRODUCTS - Farleys now HEINZ Nurture...PRICE INCREASE!!!!

136 replies

rebstoddy · 08/07/2008 13:19

I know from reading the message boards that there are lots of unhappy mums out there , due to the increase price, per tin of £3.30 that has been added to the Heinz nurture milk, which was formerly known as FARLEYS. I have twins, this is a MASSIVE increase for us & we should come together to do something about this, to show HEINZ that consumers DO still have power! The thing that annoys me the most is this price increase could have been notified, as the change of tins was notified. It's not ok to just change our babies formula over, this can cause stomach upset, constipation, vomiting. Heinz try to tell us they care for our babies, CLEARLY, they are all about PROFIT ...so let's hit 'em where it hurts!!!
We should boycott Heinz products for a week, all of their products, for one week. Believe me, they will notice the decrease in sales. Get all your friends to do it too, even if they have NOT been affected by this sly price increase. Please, let me know by answering this thread, if you think, collectively, as mumsnet mummies, that we could arrange this.
best regards, ANGRY MUM of twins x

OP posts:
camousean · 15/07/2008 16:59

What makes me feel mad is that the only two places that stock farleys near me (boots and morrisons) took it off their shelfs about a week ago and aren't going to be getting that 'nuture' in stock till the 23rd of july so I've got no choice but to switch to something else, if they'd have given warning of when exactly it was going off the shelfs I could have stocked up instead of getting caught off guard and wondering which milk I should try.

NormaStanleyFletcher · 15/07/2008 16:59

Can I just say that if bond is someone from farleys/heinze then as far as I know what he/she is doing is illegal. You can't pretend not to be from that company and hand out "impartial" advice, whether it be formula or sports cars.

I have reported the post as it looks suspicious to me.

lulumama · 15/07/2008 17:00

me too sabire...

i have formula fed two babies , never had an issue with constipation, nor any of the other babies i know.. whether breast or bottle as it happens.

misdee · 15/07/2008 17:05

neither of my FF older dd's had problems with constipation. one neice did, but that was ongoing and didnt end when the formula was stopped.

sabire · 15/07/2008 17:07

I just personally feel it's wrong to shoehorn mums into using formulas with novel ingredients in them. Fair enough - inclusion of new ingredients will increase the profits of the manufacturers, but there isn't clear enough evidence that these ingredients are beneficial for ALL babies to justify forcing mothers into using them.

Heinz has got rid of Farley's because it will result in larger numbers buying the new, expensive formula - many will feel they simply don't have a choice but to put their babies onto Nurture because they will feel it's closest to the brand their baby is already used to. The ethical thing to do would have been to introduce Nurture onto the market alongside Farley's. Then mums could have chosen to carry on with a formula that they were already happy with - (a formula that Heinz has sworn blind in the past was an excellent, safe food for babies) or switch to the new formulation.

camousean · 15/07/2008 17:13

Isn't that 'special' ingrediant that makes the poo softer a kind of laxitive, not really something I want to give my child!

MatNanPlus · 15/07/2008 17:24

Found this:

Betapol? has been developed in order to overcome the problems associated with poor fatty acid absorption from infant formula and the negative consequences of this on energy supply, stool consistency and bone development.
Studies in animals and newborn babies have confirmed that all the fatty acids in Betapol? - including palmitic acid - are well absorbed into the bloodstream, and that only tiny quantities are lost in the feces. This greatly improves the absorption of dietary calcium and significantly reduces the amount of calcium lost in the stools. This, in turn, produces softer stools and a greater bone mineral density.

Stool consistency and bone mineral density in babies who receive Betapol? are comparable to those seen breast-fed babies.

tiktok · 15/07/2008 17:24

Have to say I have read Bond's posts again and I agree. The give away? The dig at Nutricia (who make Cow&Gate and Aptamil) for doing company sponsored research, whereas Heinz don't do this. I haven't a clue if this is true, and you'd have to do loads of digging to be sure about this.

The tone is also peculiarly inconsistent.

MatNanPlus · 15/07/2008 17:26

from here

the brochure was interesting reading.

LackaDAISYcal · 15/07/2008 18:27

just seen this and my hackles are raised as well. Strange this comes after The Guardian article over the weekend that referred to this thread exactly; even stranger that a search of mynameisbonds posting history reveals this thread and this thread alone, a sum total of three posts. Now it could be that she read the guardian article and moseyed along to MN to check it out......but somehow I'm not sure that's the case.

I too have reported "her" posts

for whoever asked about why the price was so much, it was me who spoke to heinz last week and was told that this betapol is very expensive. they also said they were the only company to use it in the UK, justifying the increase over and above the price of Aptamil. I also queried what would happen if I fed it to my non-constipated baby and was told it wasn't like a laxative, it was much more gentle. I'm not convinced; if I take senna when I'm not constipated it will give me the runs; the runs mean the food isn't being digested properly and if food isn't digested properly then my body isn't getting the nutrients it needs...which is why perhaps they have felt the need to increase the amounts of vits and minerals in it. Am very very at the whole debacle.

MatNanPlus · 15/07/2008 18:28

wonder if i can convince mum to not use Aptamil when weaning current BF baby in a few months. We have in date new Nanny Milk from NZ Friend but was told by a UK HV that it is a no-no (tho her DS used it and is a grand lad).

Will wander to the local baby shop (in Italy) and check out the other offerings, none of which are recognisable by name in the UK, tho here Apt comes in 3 stages 0-4m, 4-7m, and 7-12m.

In Theory HIPP is available but after speaking to her she is thinking of using the Nanny Milk she has.

Baby is BF but mum was VERY ill at the weekend sunstroke/tummy bug so couldn't feed, baby had Apt and very smelly/even runnyer stools and soooo fussy, we put it down to FF rather than BF but could be the FF we used

LackaDAISYcal · 15/07/2008 18:36

guardian article
thanks hunker, I

LackaDAISYcal · 15/07/2008 18:36

guardian article
thanks hunker, I

LackaDAISYcal · 15/07/2008 18:36

guardian article
thanks hunker, I

LackaDAISYcal · 15/07/2008 18:36

guardian article
thanks hunker, I

LackaDAISYcal · 15/07/2008 18:37

oops, not sure what i did then ...i was trying to say I got the article from hunker's blog!

Flibbertyjibbet · 15/07/2008 18:38

All this talk recently of new recipe formulas and the studies done on them...

'Studies in animals and newborn babies have confirmed....'

Who on earth puts their baby in a TEST GROUP for new things to be put in their stomachs? Do they line them up next to beagles?

I don't get it.

MatNanPlus · 15/07/2008 18:42

Just so LackaDAISYcal: Bond said Betapol is used in C&G Omneo Comfort which has been on the UK market for 8yrs+, so how can it be new to the UK market

I first used it in May 2000 as the families first child was fussy, unsettled, windy, poopy, fretful and it was suggested by the HV for baby2 as it was marketed (and still is) as gentle on baby's digestion. Have used it for other families since. So that claim is out the window

FAQ · 15/07/2008 18:44

"Changing your babies formula from one to another won't cause any illness."

True it probably won't cause an illness VS - but some babies just DON'T get on with other formulas (I speak from bitter experience after trying to change DS3 from formula to another and ended up with a very grumpy, grizzly baby, who refused his milk after a few bottles.......I switched back 24hrs later and the grumpyness stopped just as quickly as it started

MatNanPlus · 15/07/2008 18:44

Exactly Flibbertyjibbet, who are these newborn testers.

MatNanPlus · 15/07/2008 18:49

Did like Belinda Phipps Comment, switch and if baby not happy switch again above the HV comment of basically seek HV advice first.

if your using a speciality milk your not going to be using Farleys / Nurture now are you!!

LackaDAISYcal · 15/07/2008 18:49

lol flibberty....I like how the babies come second after the animals (not!). I certainly wouldn't put my baby in a trial for something like this.....which is why I won't be buying Nurture

Quite so FAQ.....and this formula is NOT farleys, so it will probably cause a lot of babies (and parents) a lot of discomfort regardless of anything that the new ingredients might cause.

MatNan, I wonder how they can justify saying that over their helpline than?

MatNanPlus · 15/07/2008 18:52

Pass LackaDAISYcal, maybe were just meant to beliee their word unlikely now.

But FAQ : Nurture is a NEW milk so it is going to bother some babies and the parents DON'T have to benefit of switching back to Farleys

MatNanPlus · 15/07/2008 18:55

/believe/

And yes i noticed animals came BEFORE BABIES

I notice one of the sites i visited stated cows milk is to high in protein and salt and too low in other things like vitamins as babies aren't calves and the babies kidneys weren't made to deal with the first 2 and also were not meant to double their weight in 2 months.

FAQ · 15/07/2008 18:56

hang on - please don't "but" me ! I wasn't arguing against the new ingredients - honestly!

Agree that bonds posts very

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