confused about new way for making up bottles!!

[nappyaddict]

is this right? you have to boil the water, leave it to cool for 30 mins and then add the powder after 30 mins? how does that work with a screaming hungry baby!!

I've never known another way of doing it, and I don't find it a problem.
I make up the milk when the water is boiling. I rang SMA about the waiting for 30mins thing, and one of the reasons for this is to protect themselves in case you scald yourself making the milk. The other reason is that the powder froths up, so I just make sure I've stirred it in.
I use UHT cartons when we go out.

Ds is 2.7, and when he was on ff I was told by hv to make up 6 bottles at a time by boiling kettle, leave for 45mins, make up feeds, cool in cold water (change water every 5 mins or run under tap) then straight in the fridge. And to use bottles up within 24 hours.

So was this dangerous?

PanicPants, it was best practice at the time

new research has meant the guidelines changed

like cars get safer all the time

8 years ago I made up all the bottles in the morning.....boiled the kettle, left to cool down, added the formula and then out in fridge to be reheated. Now I make up all the bottles in the morning (with wather) leave to cool down and add the formula before a feed. I give it at room temp. Seems to have worked well both ways.

i make my bottles by filling them all with 3 quarters the required amount of boiling water(eg if i need a 4oz bottle i'll fill it to 3 oz with boiling water) and leave to cool. then when i need to feed LO i'll fill the bottle up by another quarter to 4oz with boiling water, add the powder and feed. takes about 2 mins.

So could you:

1. Steralise the bottles, boil water and half fill. Cool down and put in fridge.

Then when you need a feed.

1. Boil water, mix up required powder with half of boiled water, then add to the other half of cooled water in the fridge?

That would work perfectly PP

Don't even know why I'm bothered with it, as don't have a baby and I'm not pregnant again!

PP that would only work if half boiling water and half cooled water made a temperature higher than 70 degrees. i guess you would have to experiment what ratio of cold and hot water you needed to make it above 70 degrees when you added the powder.

or what you could do is boil the water, cool to 70-80 degrees and then keep it in a flask so when you needed to make a feed up you would have some 70ish degree water already made. when going out you could also take the flask and then put the bottle in a cup of cold water to cool it down.

what about if your going out for the day? would you have to use the cartons?

Erk, this new way sounds like a lot of faffing doesn't it!

I'm glad i found this out now. It has enormously swayed my decision to stick with BF!

Catilla, the issue is that there have been some fatal cases of bacterial meningitis from unusual bacteria found in milk powder (which is not sterile, unlike the cartons of ready made stuff, which are)

Going out is more of a challenge. I've been mix feeding my 7.5 month old cos of nursing strikes so i never know when he's going to want to BF. We just take cartons - more expensive though. the DoH advice is to make up bottles with boiling or recently boiled water, cool quickly and then transport as cold as possible, with an insulated coolbag and icepacks, transferring to a proper fridge (not fridge door) when you arrive. But this is still second best to making up fresh...

should have added 'transfer to fridge if possible'

if I were to ff, this is how i would do it.

but the hot water (>70 deg) in the bottle to about 2/3 the level. add the required amt of formula top up the other 1/3 with cold boiled water stored in the fridge.

can't see too much faff here.

when out, take a small flask with hot water. mix up feed as above ask cafe or restaurant staff for a measure of cold water.

This isn't a reason for you to stop bfing RGPargy!!!

lol Kiskidee!! I'm sticking with it, dont worry!

spugs see the post below yours. you either take out boiling water or 70ish degree water in a flask and cool down by putting the bottle in cold water.

kiskidee - that's how i'd do it too but not necessarily usin a ratio of 2/3 to 1/3. you'd have to work out exactly how much hot to cooled water you needed to get a temperature of about 70.

ah, nappy. you get the drift, but listen, I would add enough cooled water to bring it down to drinkable temperature, having mixed in the formula in about 70 deg water first.

yes, you would have to work out the exact proportions. i used 2/3 to 1/3 as an example.

The tin also says NOT to use reboiled water, how seriously should I take that? It's getting a chore emptying the kettle each time!

that has always been the case angel. it is because by reboiling the kettle, the minerals in the water becomes more concentrated due to evaporation. same reason many brands of bottled water should not be used for making up formula

ah that's a good idea kiskidee - hadn't thought of that. that way it doesn't require cooling down! what i'd probably do is put say 6oz of cooled water in the bottles already prepared and keep them in the fridge and i'd keep a flask of boiling water on the side (or take it out with me). then i'd use one of those tiny bottles that hold only 5 oz and put say 2 oz of boiling water in and then the 8 scoops of powder, mix it and then add it to the larger bottle which already has the 6oz of cooled water in.

Great! This just gets easier... NOT!

Mumofmonster is right,well I say right but she said it exactly how the H.V. told me.
Fill the bottles in the morning with boiled water. THEN add the milk when feed is needed, heat in jug. (although I do nuke it){blush}

The H.V. told me that making bottles up for the day, powder included, gives the babys gastroentiritis, so this is the new way of doing things

when did the hv tell you though. the advice changed in 2007 to this new way of using water above 70 degrees.

The H.V and midwife told me in Jan 2008 when I had my baby girl.