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why does j lo just get a wet nurse? if she doesn't want to bf?

117 replies

robinrednomorenowemptybreasts · 31/03/2008 20:50

if i had all her money and i didnt want to thats what id do, at least for a few months anyway.

OP posts:
expatinscotland · 31/03/2008 21:39

I was a third generation bottlefeeder.

Who breastfed.

You know those chavvy people, though, Purple. They're 'working class' background predisposes them to all sorts of questionnable behaviour, especially when they get ideas above their stations.

[rolls eyes]

notnowbernard · 31/03/2008 21:41

Robin, just noticed you started 2 bf threads yesterday

It's a hot topic for you, it seems!

As someone who has just stopped bf

PuppyMonkey · 31/03/2008 21:43

I'm probably a fifth or sixth generation bottle feeder. It's a wonder I've survived really.

onepieceoflollipop · 31/03/2008 21:46

notnowbernard I was just about to say the same as you said at 21:41

Robin, there are lots of other interesting topics on the board as well, maybe time for a change?

Sabire · 31/03/2008 21:48

"I'm no fan of J-Lo, but to make statements that people from less than middle class or priviledged backrounds are of course going to bottlefeed is condescending, inaccurate and pathetic."

Oh cool it expat.

I didn't say that wc people are 'of course going to bottlefeed'. Only implied they're more likely to.

And they are and it's a fact that's widely acknowledged by those involved with working on infant feeding health policy who are trying to target groups who traditionally have low rates of breastfeeding.

Sorry.

If you're interested these are the figures from the UK (from the recent Department of Health 5 yearly Infant Feeding Survey)

America has a similar patterns.

"There is a steep social class gradient in breastfeeding initiation, in the UK
rising from 57% of mothers in social class V to 91% of mothers in social
class I. Increases between 1995 and 2000 were higher at the lower end
of the social class scale (from 60% to 63% in manual classes and from
50% to 54% in mothers with no partner or partner?s occupation
unclassified).
? Breastfeeding incidence was related to age of mothers, in the UK rates
ranging from 46% among teenage mothers to 78% of mothers aged 30
or over.
? In the UK, mothers who left full-time education at age 16 or below were
less likely to initiate breastfeeding than those educated longer. Increases
in breastfeeding incidence between 1995 and 2000 were concentrated
among the less well-educated sectors of the population (from 51% to
54% among mothers educated to age 16 or below, unchanged at 88%
among mothers educated to at least age 19)."

The point I made about Jlo's background was valid and was not in the slightest bit judgemental.

She's a working class girl who comes from a community with low breastfeeding rates.

Her cultural heritage is bound to influence her feelings about how she chooses to feed her own babies - however much money she's ammassed in the intervening years.

It's a fair point.

expatinscotland · 31/03/2008 21:50

I'll cool it if you stop making ridiculous statements and being so judgemental towards all and sundry about how they feed their babies.

Especially the assumption that someone you don't even know has control issues. But somehow that's not judgemental.

Deal?

I didn't think so.

This place really needs an iggy button.

notnowbernard · 31/03/2008 21:51

Iggy button?!

Please enlighten me!

expatinscotland · 31/03/2008 21:51

If only, notonly

expatinscotland · 31/03/2008 21:52

I mean 'notnow', soz.

PuppyMonkey · 31/03/2008 21:54

Ah, i see what you mean Lollipop and Bernard... wasn't around to see yesterday's "epic" started by robin..

I'm leaving too...

If anyone is interested there's a really good thread on whether you need a passport to travel from the UK to Ireland... The OP is really quite desperate... possibly suicidal... if that helps.

Oliveoil · 31/03/2008 21:54

I agree with Sabire, your background/peer experience does have a bearing on whether you decide to b/f

however, I don't do these threads as they end up making my teeth itch so I will leave you all to it and go to bed

Sabire · 31/03/2008 21:55

I'm not judging anyone.

Except JLo

I'm suggesting that she might have control issues

Is this really offensive to you?

Is it really hurtful to you that I'm suggesting that a multi-millionaire R&B diva, well known for being ridiculously demanding, stroppy and extravagent, is perhaps a bit controlling.

You're not looking for something to attack me for because you don't like something else I've said are you? Because frankly - you're being a bit.... oversensitive maybe?

expatinscotland · 31/03/2008 21:55

oooo, Puppy! leave the door open. i'm coming with. why doesn't she just jump on a ferry?

cheesesarnie · 31/03/2008 21:56

oh my lord.

LilyMunster · 31/03/2008 21:57

id be a wetnurse.
if i didnt have my own sprogs/life.
waft around cuddling babies i could give back and have a good nights sleep... sounds great.
obv id express for night feeds

CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 31/03/2008 21:58

OMG

What is it tonight?

God there are some very judgemental people about.

Re OP

Some women BF because they want to.
Some women FF because they cant BF.
Some women FF because they dont want to BF.

Main thing is happy mummy=happy baby/babies

Some of you (and I stress SOME) who BF, are so holier than thou!! Wet nurse? FFS

LilyMunster · 31/03/2008 22:05

with respect, why is wet nursing such a 'mad' concept?

i am not holier than thou. i did not bf for 2 yrs, i do not weave my own home grown lentils, i even serve my dc chicken dippers sometimes.

but i dont understand why wetnursing is beyond the pale and ff so much better and more natural. eh??

cheesesarnie · 31/03/2008 22:07

i dont think theres anything wrong or odd about wet nursing.but i do think theres something wrong when a mother cant do as she chooses in regards to feeding her baby.btw ive done both.

CHOCOLATEPEANUT · 31/03/2008 22:09

Because BF is a very personal experience and to hand your child over to another woman to BF seems to me very odd

cheesesarnie · 31/03/2008 22:10

yes but each to there own though.

Kif · 31/03/2008 22:12

wet nurses had high mortality rates because they took in too many children, and ended up supplementing on the sly with thin porridge/gruel/pap.

Sabire · 31/03/2008 22:14

"when a mother cant do as she chooses in regards to feeding her baby"

Right.

Would those people who feel that mums SHOULDN'T be allowed to feed their babies how they wish put their hands up.

Anyone?

Anyone?

Fine.

That's dealt with then.

Are we allowed to carry on talking about why Jlo might have decided against getting a wet nurse, without people tutting and coming over all offended?

Cheerio puppymonkey and expatinscotland.

Don't let the door bang your arses on the way out!

robinrednomorenowemptybreasts · 31/03/2008 22:14

yes but peanut she could get donated bm, i think in the usa you can even buy bm.

actually since ive stopped bf ive become more interested in it! now that is odd!

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midnightexpress · 31/03/2008 22:16

Don't want to get involved in the discussion, but I would highly recommend looking at this week's OK magazine, purely for the fantastic picture of J-Lo and wotsisname feeding their babies. She's wearing something like a ballgown and the whole room is filled with lovely objets, vases of sweetpeas and all the furniture is white. I'm hoping they're going to go back in approx 18 months and see how the decor is doing.

LilyMunster · 31/03/2008 22:17

ah CP, but then, not giving a baby the very best food available when its their only source of anything and there are well documented health implications seems very odd to me, but hey, my opinion doesnt match yours so feel free to rant at me for some crime or other...

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