talk is cheap

[kiskidee]

'comment' in the guardian on bf

And I totally agree you can share your body with a baby, I'm 30wks pg and still manage to feel sexy and I loved the shape of my body when breastfeeding.

She sounds like a psycho. I don't understand this attitude. I had a hard time with BF-ing, didn't do it for very long - but I am still completely flabbergasted by other women who haven't got on with Bf-ing for one reason or the other and so become actively against it. How incredibly hateful...and self hating, actually. How any woman can think breastfeeding is somehow undesirable - for whatever reason - is beyond me.

NF, you often find the people who are actively against breastfeeding have some osrt of twisted logic that being against it is satnding up for their right not to do it, when really it's their self formulated guilt eating them up nside and fighting with anyone who may dare confirm that breastfeeding is better.

It's rare you'll see anyone who says, 'breastfeeding wasn't for me, but that's great you do it,' or 'I couldnt get on with it, I tried, but I went to formula and am happy with my decision' and actually means that getting so uptight about it, so I'd imagine she has some kind of inner angst about the way it was in her life.

Sorry, mean MF, not NF.

Well MF she claimed she enjoyed it when her baby was tiny, but 6 months is too long, and the health recommendations are irrelevant for us advanced Westerners anyway.
So why ruin one's boobs? Not worth it.

Plus, by six months they have teeth and are getting big!
HUGE I SAY HUGE!
Daft bint.

Another quote to give you a better idea.

'Brendan O'Neill is right women aren't just incubators anymore. My body has a sexual function and a,you know AESTHETIC function as well as its milk-producing function. I don't have to sacrifice any of my functions just to prove I'm a virtuous mother - I think that is the REAL issue: confused middle-aged middle-class western women are unsure about their own role and their own worthiness to be mothers so they carry on like THAT, trying to prove thier virtue by boasting about spiritual breast feeding ( and you know organic nappies blah blah!) and bitching about us "thoughtless" peasant women who just get on with it. they are the only ones who need all these patriarchal rules and regulations and measurments because they have no idea what they're doing.

KDJ Jones, you're argument is for breast feeding for about a week. Anyway I'm not sure it makes much difference what bacteria are in the babies gut, we all have bacteria in our guts. That all sounds scientific but it is EXACTLY the same scientific argument why vaccination causes Narcissistic personality disorder or whatever - I recognize it! And I never believed it. '

I think this might be a wind-up. She insults 'middle-class' mothers, dismisses all scientific research on the benefits of BF (which is accepted by EVERYONE by the way) and in another post she also dismisses the issues of infant mortality in 3rd world countries due to FF as a problem with the water, not the formula- this must be a wind-up.

I think that poster is trolling....not to be taken seriously, anyway.

I do think that debate is remarkable for people pontificating on things they clearly know very little about.

You get a far better class of poster on mumsnet

Tiktok, I was thinking that the other day - SO often threads have posters who go "I haven't read the whole thread, but I think that mummies are trying to do the best for their babies and nobody should be making them feel guilty for it" when it's just a totally empty thing to post!

Hunker, you are ace.

What a fabulous post.

Aw, thanks, VVV

Am going to write something about the guilt thing for the blog. Keep having ideas of ways to word it. Am aiming for "sensitively"!

If you are aiming for that, then you'll get a bullseye I'm sure.

Guilt as in people that feel guilty tryign to pretend theyre standing up for womens rights or guilt as in everyone esle being made to feel guilty?
Either way I'm sure you'll do a great job.

The whole shebang, VS. Quite the topic, eh?!

it was in the guardian - need i say more............

Yes, definitely, I shall look out for it, will be extremely hard to write without implying that people cannot be for ffing without having ishoos though, glad it's you not me!

(drugs and bfing would be a good one too from the threads I've read on here recently no-one knows the facts)