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Please help me

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OhToBeASeahorse · 11/01/2021 17:59

My anxiety is through the roof and I'm exhausted thinking about this.. I'll try to keep it brief...

DD is 13 weeks. No CMPA, no tongue tie. EBF

When she was smaller it took me hours to get her to sleep with lots of tears. Was given gaviscon, nightmare to give it to her. Given omeprazole. We used it for a week which coincided with her napping better and she settled at night. Then on day 5 became v gassy, lots of poos. We stopped the omperazole after a week and she was still settled - I was v relieved.

Then in the last 10 days we have lots of reflux symptoms. She wakes from each nap crying (but I feed on waking so maybe it is just hunger). Some.feeds are easy others v traumatic. Vinegary poo today. She cant be left on her back for longer than about 10 minutes but if she's upset actually laying her down soothes her. Also think she just doesnt like being alone.

I think it ia silent reflux but I'm terrified of making it all worse with the omperazole.

Dr says its reflux but normal and i should power through and wean at 4-5 months.

Any advice? It's all I think about. I hate to think of her in pain but I dont want to start messing around with meds if its going to make it all worse.

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OhToBeASeahorse · 11/01/2021 17:59

TLDR: should you always medicate silent reflux?

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Munxx · 11/01/2021 20:41

You really need to speak to your HV about this as it is hard to help online. Do you have some numbers for the breastfeeding support groups? Silent reflux can be very distressing Holding upright for a good while after feeling may help as May using a sling for naps as can hold in a more upright position. I really would try and get some real life help tomorrow. My daughter had silent reflux although she also had CMPI and we had a cocktail of medicines which did work in the end but you have to persevere to get the mix right and remember that many meds are weight dependent so you will need to adjust dose as they grow. Hope it eases soon.

Munxx · 11/01/2021 20:43

kellymom.com/bf/got-milk/supply-worries/fast-letdown/#positioning

Some upright positions here

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OhToBeASeahorse · 11/01/2021 21:27

The dr says it doesnt need medical intervention though so I just dont know where to go.

I feel very alone and I'm so tired of thinking and worrying. Thank you for replying x

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Munxx · 11/01/2021 22:25

Get in touch with a breast feeding peer supporter, you may have some numbers from your red book? Doctors don't always have the best knowledge (no offence intended it very much depends on which individual you get) of breast feeding depending on their specialisms. I wonder if you could ask to speak to another doctor? I'm a lapsed peer supporter my own knowledge is not hugely up to date though.

Angelik · 11/01/2021 22:30

Vinegary poo? Sounds like first bout of teething to me.

Any kind of upper body wind will hurt lying down on back. If she is calm lying down you can out her on front but watch her for safety. Constantly rubbing back might help too. Being fractious will stop wind coming up.

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OhToBeASeahorse · 11/01/2021 22:31

Thank you, I'll have a look in the red book. With my last baby my mental health ended up in the gutter because I jumped from dr to dr trying to get answers so I'm wary of following the same pattern.

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OhToBeASeahorse · 11/01/2021 22:32

@Angelik that's what the GP said

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GLTM · 11/01/2021 22:43

Reflux is awful for the parent and the baby. Dr's can be anti medicating babies, but Omprezale can work for some babies very well. There are Facebook groups for reflux and silent reflux and I recommend joining some. Our baby has reflux and we use Omprezale and it helps a lot. I think it's worth writing down the options of giving it, not giving it or giving the other PPI and evaluating them. It's a hard decision to make and ultimately will come down to how bad you feel it is at present. I hope you both get some relief soon. Early weaning tends to get recommended by Drs, but isn't necessarily the best option.

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OhToBeASeahorse · 11/01/2021 22:45

Thanks so much. Funnily enough it's the FB group that has scared me even more about omeprazolez everyone seems to have a terrible time on it.

I just dont want to cause her more pain. Today she has been happy, the only tears we had were at bedtime.

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Munxx · 11/01/2021 22:55

We ended up having to prop her crib up a bit, we did it with a book under the crib legs but there are safe supports you can get that elevate them a little so their head is higher which can help with back flow. This was ten years ago so forgive me if this is a horrible and now unsafe move!

Munxx · 11/01/2021 22:58

Right I've just googled and this is absolutely not best practice now I am so sorry- as I say this was in 2010 under medical advice following my baby being in hospital due to feeding issues and I was always aware as a Mum then that advice from the past wasn't always good so please don't lambast me, it was well intentioned. Apologies again.

MagentaIsDoesNotExist · 12/01/2021 14:58

Are you certain it isn't tongue tie? It took me 4 months and seeing over 10 GPs, midwives and HVs, and eventually going private to get a really obvious once that I could see treated. How is her weight gain? Does she feed for a very long time and cry when you put her down?

If not that I would suggest trying to see an osteopath. How was her birth? They can work wonders with making babies more comfortable if they have had an assisted birth or been born by section etc.

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OhToBeASeahorse · 12/01/2021 16:42

Absolutely certain, I had a private assessment when she was a few weeks.

No very efficient feeder, 10 minutes max really
Birth was fine until delivery and then her cord snapped but nothing that should have bothered her..

Lots of sick today, most of it clear, but she isnt bothered at all - that's why I'm so scared of medicating her

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MagentaIsDoesNotExist · 12/01/2021 16:44

Can you see breastfeeding support? Not sure if that is allowed at the moment. But they can often be much more knowledgable than GPs or HVs about these issues.

MagentaIsDoesNotExist · 12/01/2021 16:45

Just thinking after your update that maybe her drinking so fast is making her sicky? Could be totally off the mark! So hard with these things that it often comes down to a process of elimination.

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OhToBeASeahorse · 12/01/2021 17:28

I think that is definitely part of it. She is in a (completely by her design not mine) routine of feed, play, sleep - so she wakes up hungry immediately. She has also refused my right breast (exactly the same as my son did) and when she is feeding sometimes she dribbles milk out

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Isadora2007 · 12/01/2021 17:33

Honestly if she’s happy enough then I’d not medicate. Some babies are sicky ones who posset everywhere and grow out of it. If she had silent reflux she’d not be happy all day and only cry at night. And she’d not settle lying down...
it sounds like she is thriving despite any issues and tbh I’d just stop worrying about it all.

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OhToBeASeahorse · 12/01/2021 17:48

Thanks. I worry tho - she sleeps with me on her side which I know she shouldn't and she only naps in the sling.

Both my babies have been high maintenance and i dont know of it's just their nature, my shite parenting or a medical issue.

I much prefer it when they can talk

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KatieKat88 · 13/01/2021 06:23

She's still very young though so makes sense that she wants to be by you. My DD had silent reflux but wasn't apparent until 4 months- she would scream 4 minutes into a feed like clockwork and it was horrendous, and had never been like that before. I knew it was wrong and had the lovely lady at the infant feeding clinic watch her feed and she told me what it was. Went to the GP (who first tried to just print me off the NHS page on colic Hmm) but then looked at my angry face and prescribed gaviscon. That was a pain to give but did work - but only if I gave it to DD before a feed, not midway because she was already screaming by then! (Another GP said it was ok to try this). To start with she needed it before every feed then around 5 months I did every other feed and by weaning her at 6 months she didn't need it at all. She was sitting up more on her own which helped I think. I'd be wary of early weaning - I know it's ok if medically advised but would ask for a second opinion both on meds and early weaning if I were you.

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OhToBeASeahorse · 13/01/2021 14:39

@KatieKat88 that's the thing - trying to work out of it's a medical issue or just a baby wanting her mummy!

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sproutsnbacon · 13/01/2021 14:46

Have you seen a paediatrician or just the GP? I would try and get a referral to a paediatrician
My dd had acidic poo and it was cmpa

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OhToBeASeahorse · 13/01/2021 15:01

Did you have any other symptoms? I dont think it is, when I went back on dairy after 6 weeks there was no change

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sproutsnbacon · 13/01/2021 15:51

With DD yes constant crying, refusal to settle and constant weight loss. My ds also had cmpa his only symptoms were reflux type thing and constant refusal to settle, waking every 45 mins and doing the knees up thing. I had to stop in both dairy and soya and with ds eggs as well

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OhToBeASeahorse · 14/01/2021 07:14

Dd is pretty happy in the day. Its feeds - perhaps one a day, one bad day two, and going to bed at might where she is unsettled

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